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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Jun 2012, 9:04 am

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Fantasy Aviva Premiership Current League Table

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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10 Homepage - Page 19 12Sale Sharks0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:00 pm

Cipriani has leaked it on Twitter
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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:01 pm

Wasps been bought. My take on falcons
Is its the right decision but should have been sorted before play offs.


Falcons have every right to be furious and have made transfers based
On being in prem.

RFU are a shambles and I could see falcons appealing this and leaving RFU and league in a really awkward spot.


Bad for both sides although now welsh are happy. Dreadful dreadful administration

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:06 pm

Falcons have no grounds for appeal apparently, but could sue for compensation based on the fact they have spent out on the basis of being in the AP next season.

It's the right decision, but agree Mat, it's an absolute shambles how it has been reached. If you were in charge of a company and ran ti's business like this you would get sacked.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:10 pm

I agree with both of you, it's the right call.

I have a little feeling there was already a compo package agreed or we would not have looked to sign so many players.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:23 pm

I am genuinely furious with this.

It's a mess and makes rugby look bad. Some new falcons fans may have bought season tickets based on prem etc


Welsh behind recruitment wise.


Jobs should be lost over this. This also happens in lower leagues I have finished 2 nd in league and not known whether going up on several occasions.


I have friends who play literally pub league football but they always know the league structure and what league places involves promotion


This has been going on for years just now its happened at top

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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:29 pm

So what happens with me on here?

Spent all summer building a much improved squad.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:31 pm

My opinion is you stay as you are mate and if it came to a vote would vote that way.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:37 pm

Up to Pete I guess.

A change of name probably best way with first dibs of Welsh players.

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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

I think a vote would be the best option
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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 10:25 pm

Driver what do you want to happen ?? My vote is driver picks.

Don't want him shafted by the RFU also.

Driver is a valued league member let him decide

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 10:42 pm

Bit slow but realised that Horne kahui Barnes and jdj wil all be absent in rc presuming Meyer sees sense and picks jdj.

Anyone want to swap a wc nh centre for a sh one ??

I have matt Scott hape Donald all 12s in rc with only hape able
To play 13 and may and If stretched jsd

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 29 Jun 2012, 10:43 pm

Just be lucky it's not the welsh leagues, we don't have a clue what league we're going into due to pontypool's appeal!!
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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 10:55 pm

Prop I once played in south west 1 now called national 3 we
Came 3rd and understood we may be in a playoff. 2 months after season found out we were now In a national league and that everyone below 3rd were relegated.

This happened like a chain reaction to northern 1 midlands 1 London 1 etc
So top 3 in each made national 3

At no point in season was this mentioned it was
All post season.

The next year all the northern teams and London teams ( historically weak rugby areas) lost by about a 100 points most games
And re zoning happened
Again.

Cannot believe this is still going on after 15 years
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 10:57 pm

What happened with Hape? I know he was touch & go on retiring but never seen anything confirmed.

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:04 pm

Signed for Montpelier and passed every fitness
Test.

The quitting thing was booth/smith( cant remember) trying to muddy the waters.

Hape threatened to sue according to planet rugby.

Montpelier will be great next year. Best backrow already as
Unit and hape carraro added to already good side.

Toulouse signings not great so far.

Steenkamp mom
In top 14 final and maybe off to blues on keo

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:06 pm

Signed for Montpelier and passed every fitness
Test.

The quitting thing was booth/smith( cant remember) trying to muddy the waters.

Hape threatened to sue according to planet rugby.

Montpelier will be great next year. Best backrow already as
Unit and hape carraro added to already good side.

Toulouse signings not great so far.

Steenkamp mom
In top 14 final and maybe off to blues on keo.co.za leaving Toulouse with massive prop issues as huuman retiring. Huget signed for Toulouse and looked
Great last week. Steve may have a top Wing


Amazed Toulon sold Samson on

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:11 pm

Pretty sure Luke McAlister won motm in T14 final

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:16 pm

Did he?? On pr rw and rugby paper steenkamp was??

Dire game I did not finish it ?

Top 14 lasts
Nearly
A year and starts in 5 weeks!!!!

Too attritional

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:26 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Driver what do you want to happen ?? My vote is driver picks.

Don't want him shafted by the RFU also.

Driver is a valued league member let him decide


Or let pete decide ?? He always gets it right. Apart from overrating Irish players lol

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:32 pm

My initial thought on the promotion/relegation issue in this game is that due to the lateness of the decision and driver having worked to build up his squad, he should become London Welsh, but be allowed to keep his current squad and have first dibs on any current London Welsh players.

I will have a chat with driver about it though before any decision is made. OK
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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:52 pm

I'm about all night if you want to talk about it now Pete?
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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:54 pm

Pete how about driver and prop having a number of picks Maybe 2 of released players and deciding if they want them to replace existing members
Of squad.

Imagine szarzedki carraro Jackson cussiter would be picked up

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Post by Guest Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:57 pm

This year will be so level.

Chris luke Steve itfl all challenging. Arry could be with a few signings or players hitting form,

Apparently Steven jones quitting

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 30 Jun 2012, 1:23 am

Oh matt, don't forget me battliung for the title Wink
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Post by Guest Sat 30 Jun 2012, 8:32 am

You will certainly take a few scalps prop.

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Post by Driver Sat 30 Jun 2012, 8:46 am

Saders all over Canes here , McCaw goosing Smith!!!
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Post by Driver Sat 30 Jun 2012, 8:53 am

Great from Andrea Taylor , blatant block from Savea for Smith to score
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Post by Driver Sat 30 Jun 2012, 9:05 am

Canes 8 on fire! He's everywhere!
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Post by Guest Sat 30 Jun 2012, 9:12 am

Barrett and taylor are awful defenders they Miss so many tackles. Good try dreadful defence

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 30 Jun 2012, 11:31 am

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:Sam Tomkins joins Sale Sharks

Homepage - Page 19 3559488474 Good thing I didnt release him!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 30 Jun 2012, 11:36 am

Think he'll be any good Johnny? Could see him playing FB maybe

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 30 Jun 2012, 11:40 am

FB/Wing for him to small for the centres. If he brings his running lines across from league could be fantastic joining the line from fullback. Hes a fantastic runner.

If he has come across (seen no story on this yet) will be a season or so before he adjusts but he will be a top talent. With him and hopefully Eastmond developing in union my EQ options are looking alot lot stronger Very Happy

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Post by Guest Sat 30 Jun 2012, 12:00 pm

Tomkins has the talent to be very good. Worry about his size but then Conrad smith is tiny


Could be good for sje

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 30 Jun 2012, 12:02 pm

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:Great from Andrea Taylor , blatant block from Savea for Smith to score

Love watching Taylor, one of the most exciting runners in S15

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 30 Jun 2012, 12:06 pm

Boooh!
Just read that it was a joke between Cipriani and Tomkins who are supposedly mates

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 30 Jun 2012, 1:01 pm

Guys where did you get the Tomkins thing from as pretty sure he's staying at Wigan and he was having a joke on twitter with Cipriani about this.

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Post by Driver Sat 30 Jun 2012, 1:07 pm

Saw it on Cips twitter
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 30 Jun 2012, 1:38 pm

SJE - so close but so far on that one! Think he'd make a cracking union player, his style reminds me very much of Johnny May's but think he would be better at finding the gaps and brining others into play!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 30 Jun 2012, 3:26 pm

He hasn't signed

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 30 Jun 2012, 4:45 pm

We know Steve...
Was only Cipriani having a joke

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 30 Jun 2012, 4:53 pm

If only Cips tackling was as good as his jokes eh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 30 Jun 2012, 5:17 pm

Sounds like Sale have had a go though

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 30 Jun 2012, 5:37 pm

reckon he will sign for a union club one day - really hope Cips does well this year - Sale should have a pretty decent pack for hm to play behind.

Mat - did I see you say that Stephen Jones was retiring in an earlier post?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 30 Jun 2012, 5:41 pm

Could be the making of Cips Chris.

Aus move was a bit of a mistake and he's probably went backwards if anything

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 30 Jun 2012, 6:16 pm

would say the opposite about the Aus move, think its made him more mature (after first 3months out there!) and training with likes of JOC, Mortlock etc could only ever improve you. Trouble was he played for a team that didnt have a pack and couldnt defend!

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Post by Guest Sat 30 Jun 2012, 11:42 pm

Nigel Davies said that he will not raid scarlets and he expects Steven jones to quit despite signing for wasps.

Said he has fitness issues and considered quitting last year. Davies is a plank and will be a disaster

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 01 Jul 2012, 8:13 am

Do Glaws have a new forwards coach at all Mat, as I can't see Davies fixing that area of their game.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 01 Jul 2012, 11:43 am

Anyone see Brussow's try yesterday? Fantastic finish, beating 3 men on the wing!


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Post by Guest Sun 01 Jul 2012, 3:23 pm

Pete we still have Hogg who applied for head coach and did not get it and has been smarting.

Three separate bids have been put in for glos who are in horrendous debt.


My dad was part of a consortium who have had their bid rejected. People are buying the debt so most offers were £1.

Glos have borrowed against their season tickets a la Glasgow rangers and attendances have dropped.

Young walkinshaw will not sell yet will not invest.

My dad was a minor investor In a bid that had Azam confirmed as forwards coach. All bids got official rejection Friday over 8 weeks since submission.

Very worried about future of club and it's existence to be honest. The reassuring thing is that there were 3 bids from people with money and club at heart.

Walkinshaw was great but his son is making bad decisions

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Post by Guest Sun 01 Jul 2012, 4:27 pm

Great comedy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/mobile/rugby-union/18650528

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