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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:33 pm

For me he will be one of those players, one week will have a blinder and score a 60m amazing solo try, then next week have a stinker, get moody and get subbed off after 50 mins

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:38 pm

Give him a solid pack and I think his game will change - getting Haskell, Palmer back along with Launchbury, Poff etc and we've got a good pack (hoping our Italian tighthead is decent!).

Bracken's been a very good addition to our coaching team for Simpson, has improved his game management a fair bit. Though Care and Youngs way ahead of him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:41 pm

dammit_chris wrote:Lol - Pooly have you not seen how much better Simpson got with Bracken's coaching - every aspect of his game improved. Reckon he'll be one of the best no9's next year with a full pre-season!

Simpson has a great chance of becoming Wasps best 9 if he buckles down Wink

Only kidding, Simpson is a good scrum half. Very good runner

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:43 pm

Almost same chance as Youngs at Tigers wouldnt you say mate?

Simpson's issue for me was always his game management as he always picked to run it whenever he got the ball. I hope he improves this year as in dry conditions he could be an ideal impact sub for England.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:45 pm

Cant see him getting ahead of Youngs or Care. Good option though.

Interested to see how TOL does at us. Couple of years ago he was a quality player but been very hit and miss since.

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Post by Driver Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:46 pm

Elsom to Kobe Steelers on a 2 year deal
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 4:50 pm

Youngs at Tigers??? I'm lost

We're lucky to have 2 top draw SH's for England, it's a real position of strength with L Dickson, K Dickson & Simpson backing them up. Simpson being 5/6th choice for England doesn't mean he isn't a good player.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:05 pm

Would have Simpson far, far higher than K Dickson.

Be interesting to see how he fairs with the other Dickson this year - shame Dickson doesnt have Simpson's speed and attack as that would be a perfect no9!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:10 pm

Karl Dickson is a better all round 9 than Simpson. Simpson's running much superior than all others though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:12 pm

I rate Karl Dickson, plays very similar to Care. I like Simpson, when he's firing he's electric but I just think K Dickson is a bit more consistent which puts him ahead.

As I said we have real depth at 9

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

Cockerill having a dig at Irish:

http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2011-12/rugby/story/166251.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

conditions do hinder Simpson's game a lot - his box kicking has got very good, just needs to speed up that pass a bit more!

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:48 pm

Richards not a traditional sh so weird. Good player but shocking service and general sh traditional skills. Great runner and great at giving backrows trouble

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 5:58 pm

I think Simpson works in your team Chris tbh. He needs a players to get over the gain line to get in front foot and would be even better on turnover ball.

If Gill carries on progressing you'll have a nice tactic to play off with Tuilagi physical presence and Gill getting at the breakdown.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Jun 2012, 6:09 pm

Scrum halves again hey lads ??

Care will be England's number 1 moving forward. Youngs has to come back from surgery and has shown in past takes him a long time to recover. Let's not forget that game against SA was his first decent game in an England shirt in well over a year.

Has a habit of getting injured all the time and have to hope it does not take its toll.
Shoulder injuries are buggers for rugby players

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 6:26 pm

You miss the Ireland game Matt???

It's Youngs shirt to lose but a great contest with Care

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 27 Jun 2012, 6:46 pm

Ignore last comment, can't be bothered going through it again tbh.

Sonny Bill to announce his plans tomorrow. I'm going for Japan for 3 months followed be a year in league, the back to union.

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Post by Guest Wed 27 Jun 2012, 8:39 pm

Ooh league for a year. Tricky one that for ratings. I don't think you can move between codes that easily. Be interesting to see.

Every player who goes to Japan seems to come back not as fit and a bit out of touch until they get used to it again.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 27 Jun 2012, 10:04 pm

http://www.espnscrum.com/super-rugby-2012/rugby/story/166242.html

I missed this one. Shame for Lipman (and SJE)

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Post by stnick88 Thu 28 Jun 2012, 8:41 am

Booth and Catt were too friendly with all the players last year, there wasnt enough discipline which is probably why Bowden, who thinks he is gods gift, got a shock at the discipline at Tigers.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 28 Jun 2012, 9:35 am

Thankfully I released Lipman a few weeks back I'm well stocked with options at 7 these days

Shame for Lipman but hes a stupid boy trying to work around the on pitch tests for head bangs could give him serious problems as he gets older

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 28 Jun 2012, 9:44 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Ignore last comment, can't be bothered going through it again tbh.

Sonny Bill to announce his plans tomorrow. I'm going for Japan for 3 months followed be a year in league, the back to union.

Interested in this as I have him on the other game. Seems the NRFU are playing to his tune so I reckon they may have a deal in place and he will be back after a year in league. Think he fancies a shot at becoming a dual world cup winner with the league WC next year and New Zealand as defending champions with a good shout at it.

Will hold rating for me till the end of the season as hes likely to play the Rugby championships and AIs and would hold ratings for 6 months after that like any injured player would

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 28 Jun 2012, 10:56 am

If anyone has a bit of time could they let me know where they think I need some improvements please?! Cheers!!
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Post by Guest Thu 28 Jun 2012, 1:53 pm

about time

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/18626751

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 28 Jun 2012, 1:59 pm

See that Elsom has signed for a Japanese club for two years! Arry doesnt appear to have much luck with these things and retirements!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:14 am

Match thread for next weeks first round of summer tournament games is now up. OK
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:29 am

Beale & JOC in fantastic form, Rebels just getting their normal battering up front. They just can't secure their own ball

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:32 am

Rebels defence is shocking!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:39 am

Really bad, every ruck they lose possesion too. Must drive you made playing behind that pack.

Not sure of JOC's hair, don't think I fancy him as much now

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:43 am

Reds will win this game easily, but I can't see the retaining the title this year.

It's between the Crusaders, Chiefs, Stormers and Bulls for me. Would love a Chiefs vs. Stormers final.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:46 am

Yea Reds arn't great really, look pretty average this year.

JOC off, looks gutted.

Chiefs v Stormers would be a cracker

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 11:51 am

Very different styles of play is it is Chiefs v Stormers, but would be interesting.

Stormers have so many injuries in the pack at the moment though it is unreal. Kolisi playing 8 this week, with Don Armand and Tyrone Holmes as the flankers, neither of whom were named in the initial Super Rugby squad at the start of the season.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 29 Jun 2012, 12:04 pm

Love Beale at 10. Simmons and Shipperley going well. Like their stand in for Horwill too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 12:06 pm

C'mon Rebels!!!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 Jun 2012, 4:17 pm

Reds unlikely to lose that one.

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Post by CJB Fri 29 Jun 2012, 5:09 pm

Available in deals
EQ/young TH using Murray and or Wilson
Botes could be sold for a number 6
Skrela for anyone

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Post by stnick88 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 6:28 pm

Driver and pooly u must be gutted!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 6:31 pm

Very surprised mate, I now expect a legal fight from Falcons tbh. Getting very messy and should not have been done like this.

I have a feeling we'll go down and possibly recieve compensation.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 29 Jun 2012, 6:33 pm

Absolute rubbish. Decision made first time round should be stuck to.

Might as well make it a best out of 3 case and have it all happen again.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 6:38 pm

Terrible really for both clubs, Welsh recruitment is put back 8 weeks.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 29 Jun 2012, 7:31 pm

I reckon Welsh already know who they are signing and Henson is no1 target from the sounds of it and that's about to be announced very soon.

Poor show from the RFU again...

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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 7:56 pm

Just woke up and seen this, absolutely disgusted in the RFU and feel so hard done by. I'm going to avoid Premiership/England rugby as much as possible over the next few months.
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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:00 pm

Sam Tomkins joins Sale Sharks
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:02 pm

We have a very good side for the Championship especially judging by the dross served up in the semi/final.

With any luck we'll come straight back up and I imagine Welsh will come straight back down.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:06 pm

most definitely pooly.

welsh will get battered week in week out

except maybe against wasps

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:08 pm

Haha....don't get Chris started man!!!

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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:26 pm

Bring on Bristol on September 1st i guess......

As Pashed off as i am at the whole thing i'm looking forward to seeing the likes of Nottingham , Pirates and Plymouth play.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:30 pm

It will be nice seeing us win some games too Very Happy

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Post by Driver Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:34 pm

I was thinking that but didn't want to say anything lol
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 29 Jun 2012, 8:48 pm

Driver - RIP 606 wrote:Sam Tomkins joins Sale Sharks

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