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Post by All Time Great Sun 10 Jun 2012, 10:19 am

It's time to vote for the 606V2 POUND FOR POUND Top 15 rankings.

Rules:
-Only 1 post per 606 member.
-Only active fighters allowed (must of fought in the last 18 months unless officially retired eg Shane Mosley)
-Outlandish listing’s will be DQ.
-A fighter needs two individual votes to have his points included.

Principles:
Your Top 15 should be based as at the current point in time.

Point Scoring System:
Quite simple, #1 scores 15 points, #2 scores 14 points etc… I will tally up the totals by the deadline date and will present the results.

NOTE: PLEASE TRY AND USE FULL NAMES & LIST NAMES!

For the record, the previous Top 15 606v2 P4P rankings as at 8th January 2012 was:

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr. (1)
2 Manny Pacquiao (2)
3 Juan Manuel Marquez (5)
4 Nonito Donaire (3)
5 Sergio Martinez (4)
6 Andre Ward (9)
7 Wladimir Klistchko (7)
8 Yuriorkis Gamboa (6)
9 Pongsaklek Wongjongkam (8)
10 Timothy Bradley (14)
11 Miguel Cotto (T23)
12 Vitali Klitschko (15)
13 Bernard Hopkins (13)
14 Toshiaki Nishioka (16)
15 Saul Alvarez (New)


16 Brandon Rios (T20)
17 Amir Khan (12)
18 Robert Guerrero (17)
19 Carl Froch (10)
20 Adrien Broner (New)
21 Abner Mares (New)
22 Lamont Peterson (New)
23 Giovanni Segura (11)
24 Kel Brook (19)
25 Lucian Bute (18)
26 Humberto Soto (T20)
27 Eric Morales (T20)
28 Victor Ortiz (re-entry)

Legend: (previous ranking – 8th November 2011)

I expect some changes given some recent results (e.g Wongjongkam, Bute etc. suffering big defeats).

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Post by davidemore Sun 10 Jun 2012, 10:33 am

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Andre Ward
5. Vlad Klitschko
6. Juan Manuel Marquez
7. Nonito Donaire
8. Vitali Klitschko
9. Yuriorkis Gamboa
10. Carl Froch
11.Timothy Bradley
12. Adrien Broner
13. Miguel Ctto
14. "Kid" Chocolate
15. Amir Khan

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Post by Sunnydapasingh1984 Sun 10 Jun 2012, 10:41 am

1: Floyd Mayweather
2: Andre Ward
3: Amir Khan
4: Manny Pacquiao
5: Nonito Donaire
6: Sergio Martinez
7: Carl Froch
8: Saul Alverez
9: Yuriorkis Gamboa
10: Wladmir Klitschko
11: Juan Manuel Marquez
12: Adrian Broner
13: Timothy Bradley
14: Victor Ortiz
15: Miguel Cotto

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Post by alanqlm Sun 10 Jun 2012, 1:32 pm

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Nonito Donaire
4. Sergio Martinez
5. Andre Ward
6. Manny Pacquiao
7. Carl Froch
8. Yuriokis Gamboa
9. Wladimir Klitschko
10. Abner Mares
11. Timothy Bradley
12. Chad Dawson
13. Guilermo Rigondeaux
14. Miguel Cotto
15. Amir Khan


Cheers ATG, btw glad to see you have went for the minimum of 2 votes idea.


Last edited by alanqlm on Sun 10 Jun 2012, 1:35 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Momentary rush of blood after watching Rigondeaux last night causing me to rate him way to highly 1st time round.)

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Post by alanqlm Mon 11 Jun 2012, 12:41 pm

Come on folks play along.... If ATG is willing to go to all the effort to work this all out the least we can do is participate.

Plenty of people have posted up their top 10s on the other thread doesnt take a lot of effort to copy them on here and add in another 5 names.

Personally think people willing to put in effort deserve some appreciation. Besides the results always produce some good debates.

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Post by manos de piedra Mon 11 Jun 2012, 1:03 pm

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Marquez
4. Ward
5. Donaire
6. W Klitschko
7. Martinez
8. Dawson
9. Gamboa
10. Bradley
11. Cotto
12. V Klitschko
13. Froch
14. Alvarez
15. Mares

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Post by PF4EC Mon 11 Jun 2012, 1:23 pm

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Sergio Martinez
3. Nonito Donaire
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Andre Ward
7. Wladimir Klitschko
8. Miguel Cotto
9. Carl Froch
10. Yuriokis Gamboa
11. Timothy Bradley
12. Chad Dawson
13. Amir Khan
14. Victor Ortiz
15. Erik Morales

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Post by Gaz_Mac Mon 11 Jun 2012, 1:28 pm

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Marquez
4. Ward
5. Donaire
6. W Klitschko
7. Martinez
8. Dawson
9. Gamboa
10. Bradley
11. Cotto
12. V Klitschko
13. Froch
14. Alvarez
15. Mares
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Post by DoubleD22 Mon 11 Jun 2012, 2:22 pm

1-Floyd Mayweather
2-Manny Pacquiao
3-Juan Manuel Marquez
4-Andre Ward
5-Sergio Martinez
6-Nonito Donaire
7-Wladamir Klitchko
8-Carl Froch
9-Yuriokis Gamboa
10-Chad Dawson
11- Miguel Cotto
12- Amir Khan
13- Vitali Klitchko
14- Adrien Broner
15- Guilermo Rigondeaux

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Post by School Project Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:53 am

Here's mine. Mayweather still up the top for his fight against Cotto at Cotto's weight. JMM moves up one as he put a great account of himself in against Manny, who slips down despite "losing" against Bradley - would be handedly beat by JMM should they fight again.

Martinez drops in favour of Ward due to inactivity plus Ward is the No.1 Super Middle (Carl Froch's win also makes him rise slightly).

Alvarez is in as he past the test against Mosley, he's looking strong and in is willing to take the big fights (would love to see him against Cotto!). Would have rated Gamboa higher, again inactivity see's him in at 10.

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Andre Ward
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Nonito Donaire
7. Wladimir Klistchko
8. Carl Froch
9. Chad Dawson
10. Yuriokis Gamboa
11. Tim Bradley
12.Vitali Klitschko
13. Miguel Cotto
14. Saul Alvarez
15. Amir Khan

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Tue 12 Jun 2012, 7:16 am

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Nonito Donaire
5. Sergio Martinez
6. Andre Ward
7. Wladimir Klistchko
8. Carl Froch
9. Chad Dawson
10. Toshiaki Nishioka
11. Tim Bradley
12. Yuriokis Gamboa
13. Saul Alvarez
14. Vitali Klitschko
15. Guilermo Rigondeaux

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Post by UpandUnder Tue 12 Jun 2012, 12:45 pm

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Manny Pacquiao
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Sergio Martinez
4. Andre Ward
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. Nonito Donaire
7. Yuriokis Gamboa
8. Vitali Klitschko
9. Chad Dawson
10. Carl Froch
11. Miguel Cotto
12. Timothy Bradley
13. Toshiaki Nishioka
14. Abner Mares
15. Amir Khan

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Post by School Project Tue 12 Jun 2012, 9:32 pm

Great to see some new posters getting involved with this, but where on EARTH are some of the old blood?... there's no one about on here at the moment!

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 12 Jun 2012, 9:38 pm

I'll get mine up soon the Mrs just brought in my tea. Fish chips and mushy peas with 2 slices of bread.
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Post by School Project Tue 12 Jun 2012, 9:43 pm

SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:I'll get mine up soon the Mrs just brought in my tea. Fish chips and mushy peas with 2 slices of bread.

I'm glad to know she knows her place. Is the bread buttered?

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 12 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

School Project wrote:
SugarRayRussell (PBK) wrote:I'll get mine up soon the Mrs just brought in my tea. Fish chips and mushy peas with 2 slices of bread.

I'm glad to know she knows her place. Is the bread buttered?

She's done alright for herself she can't complain.

With proper butter none of that margerine carry on.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 12 Jun 2012, 9:55 pm

This is just becomming harder and harder to complete the list and it's starting to mean less IMO. Between inactivity, quality (or lack of) of opposition and robberies make the list less meaningful imo but here it goes anyway

1.) Mayweather
2.) Donaire
3.) Ward
4.) Pacquiao
5.) JMM
6.) Wlad K
7.) Martinez
8.) Dawson
9.) Gamboa
10.) Froch
11.) Bradley
12.) Mares
13.) Cotto
14.) Khan
15.) Alvarez

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 12 Jun 2012, 10:08 pm

1. Mayweather
2. Pacquiao
3. Marquez
4. Ward
5. Martinez
6. Wlad K
7. Donaire
8. Vit K
9. Froch
10. Dawson
11. Gamboa
12. Nishioka
13. Roman Gonzalez
14. Mares
15. Alvarez

Kazuto Ioka just misses out along with Rigondeaux. In 3 or 4 years time I think Ioka will be top 5 he's a top prospect and fighting for titles after 7 fights.
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Post by All Time Great Tue 12 Jun 2012, 10:16 pm

Thanks guys let's get a few more on here before I cast the votes. I appreciate it's difficult given recent bouts but it still generated an interesting result nonetheless.

This could be the first time Manny Pacquiao drops out of the top 2 P4P list since the old 606 days.

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Post by bellchees Tue 12 Jun 2012, 10:55 pm

1. Nonito Donaire
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Andre Ward
4. Manny Pacquiao
5. Juan Manuel Marquez
6. Yuriorkis Gamboa
7. Sergio Martinez
8. Adrien Broner
9. Guillermo Rigondeaux
10. Timothy Bradley
11. Toshaki Nishioka
12. Wladimir Klitschko
13. Abner Mares
14. Chad Dawson
15. Carl Froch

Last time this was done I was really looking for Roman Gonzalez, Koki Kameda and Kazuto Ioka to press on and earn a place but none have as of yet. That could change on the 20th when Ioka is back in action, he could be really special and I hope he gets a bit more coverage than Ricardo Lopez did down at Minimumweight.

Donaire still top of the tree for me, I'll say it again that he hasn't achieved as much as the others like Mayweather, Marquez or Pacquiao but right now I feel he is a better fighter. I've gone for a few entries like that who are perhaps a bit unproven to some extent in Broner and Rigondeaux but I really do feel these guys are better than some of the more high profile names but the resume isn't there yet.

A few names could very well change around on any given day depending on how I'm feeling and there really isn't much between a lot of them.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Tue 12 Jun 2012, 11:07 pm

I think ioka will find it hard breaking into the top 5 lists down at minimum weight. He is a real talent and is due to win his 2nd title in only his 10th fight but looking at past fighters it looks like it will be a struggle. Wonjongkam only managed about 8 on anyone slits despite ages at the top and segura had to beat Calderon a 2nd time to break the top 10.

Rigondeux and Guerrero at my favourites to make an impact as both haven't really had a lot of chances, for one reason or another. Guerrero was set to fight Maidana who he would have beat easily and now fights aydin in July after injury.
Lara and Rigondeux are both super talented and could well be #1 at there respective weight classes but might not get a chance to show it

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Post by SugarRayRussell (PBK) Tue 12 Jun 2012, 11:10 pm

Ioka is a big lump at minimumweight he won't be there much longer. He's 5ft 5 I can see him going as high as bantamweight years down the line.
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Post by All Time Great Thu 14 Jun 2012, 9:38 pm

Anymore for anymore?

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Post by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Fri 15 Jun 2012, 10:42 am

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr
2. Juan Manuel Marquez
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Andre Ward
5. Wladimir Klistchko
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Nonito Donaire
8. Chad Dawson
9. Carl Froch
10. Yuriokis Gamboa
11. Tim Bradley
12.Vitali Klitschko
13. Miguel Cotto
14. Saul Alvarez
15. Amir Khan
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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri 15 Jun 2012, 5:36 pm

1. Mayweather
2. Donaire
3. Ward
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Manny Pacquiao
6. Sergio Martinez
7. Carl Froch
8. Chad Dawson
9. Wladimir Klitschko
10. Timothy Bradley
11. Gamboa
12. Vitali Klitschko
13. Amir Khan
14. Miguel Cotto
15. Nishioka

That was so hard and anyone could destroy my list to pieces with inconsistencies all over the place...

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Post by monty junior Fri 15 Jun 2012, 5:39 pm

1-Mayweather
2-Ward
3-Pacquaio
4-Marquez
5-Wlad Klitschko
6-S Martinez
7-Bradley
8-Froch
9-Donaire
10-Dawson
11-Vit Klitschko
12-Miguel Cotto
13-Gamboa
14-Alvarez
15-Broner

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Post by alanqlm Thu 05 Jul 2012, 11:06 pm

Whatever happened to the results?

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Post by TheMackemMawler Thu 05 Jul 2012, 11:10 pm

no1 Rigondeaux
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Post by Imperial Ghosty Fri 06 Jul 2012, 9:50 am

Mayweather
Donaire
Ward
Marquez
Pacquiao
Martinez
Nishioka
Gamboa
Dawson
Bradley
Cotto
Broner
Froch
Wlad
Khan



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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 06 Jul 2012, 10:04 am

Mayweather
Martinez
Juan Marquez
Donaire
Ward
Pacquiao
Bradley
W.Klisthcko
Chad Dawson
Amir Khan
Carl Froch
Broner
Cotto
Gamboa
Alvarez

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Post by Boxtthis Fri 06 Jul 2012, 10:39 am

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Juan Manuel Marquez
4 Sergio Martinez
5 Andre Ward
6 Timothy Bradley
7 Nonito Donaire
8 Wladimir Klistchko
9 Miguel Cotto
10 Carl Froch
11 Chad Dawson
12 Yuriorkis Gamboa
13 Vitali Klitschko
14 Toshiaki Nishioka
15 Amir Khan

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Post by Lance Fri 06 Jul 2012, 8:03 pm

1. mayweather
2. marquez
3. ward
4. bradley
5. dawson
6. wlad
7. pacquaio
8. hopkins
9. donaire
10. martinez
11. gamboa
12. vitali
13. huck
14. broner
15. alvarez

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Post by ShahenshahG Fri 06 Jul 2012, 9:10 pm

1 Floyd Mayweather Jr
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Andre Ward
4 Sergio Martinez
5 Juan Manuel Marquez
6 Timothy Bradley
7 Wladimir Klitschko
8 Nonito Donaire
9 Miguel Cotto
10 Chad Dawson
11 Carl Froch
12 Yuriorkis Gamboa
13 Vitali Klitschko
14 Amir Khan
15 Toshiaki Nishioka

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Post by Lance Sat 07 Jul 2012, 8:31 am

how can manny be ahead of bradley after losing to him. unless of course you arent swayed by a poor decision. then of course manny must be behind marquez?? not sure manny fans can have it both ways here

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Post by alanqlm Tue 10 Jul 2012, 10:04 am

Anybody know what happened to ATG, aint seen him on here in a while. If he is no longer around I will make an effort at coming up with a final results thing for these seeing as there is around 20 votes in now??

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Tue 10 Jul 2012, 10:13 am

Lance

Pound for pound doesn't mean you move ahead of someone if you beat them, overall pacquiao has the better recent record out of himself, Marquez and Bradley so has every reason to be above them.

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Post by alanqlm Tue 10 Jul 2012, 10:18 am

I'm pretty certain p4p means, weight etc being equal who would beat who.... so surely Pacquaio has to be behind one of Bradley or Marquez then?

In my opinion Marquez cause the results should of been the other way round.

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Post by azania Tue 10 Jul 2012, 10:31 am

alanqlm wrote:I'm pretty certain p4p means, weight etc being equal who would beat who.... so surely Pacquaio has to be behind one of Bradley or Marquez then?

In my opinion Marquez cause the results should of been the other way round.

I agree. But it seems P4P now means who has the better record.

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Post by Lance Wed 11 Jul 2012, 12:23 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Lance

Pound for pound doesn't mean you move ahead of someone if you beat them, overall pacquiao has the better recent record out of himself, Marquez and Bradley so has every reason to be above them.

bradley has the better recent record doesnt he? he beat pacman and alexander in two of his last 3 fights. pacman has lost to bradley and beat marquez and an old mosley. unless you dismiss the judges and give pacman the win over bradley of course. but in that case maybe marquez has the best recent record. it depends how recently you base your record on. i see most people have left hopkins out so they cant be going back too far.

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