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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Bath Rugby | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
2 | Gloucester | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
3 | Harlequins | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
4 | Leicester Tigers | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
5 | London Irish | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
6 | London Wasps | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
7 | London Welsh | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
8 | Newcastle Falcons | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
9 | Northampton Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
10 | Sale Sharks | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
11 | Saracens | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
12 | Worcester Warriors | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.
Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Catching up on rugby I missed whilst away. Deon Fourie started 8 for stormers this week and apparently was really good he has played hooker 7 and 8 that is some achievement.
He wins his place back at hooker and then due to injuries goes to back row. Pretty nuts at that level
He wins his place back at hooker and then due to injuries goes to back row. Pretty nuts at that level
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who you hoping for in the playoffs?
I'm hoping for Bulls and Sharks wins, but will be tought for Bulls to win at Crusaders. Kieran Read is a big loss though, for me McCaw is no 8.
No Cooper for Reds is a big loss too, Sharks on good form a lot could depend on Michalak. He has been immense recently.
I'm hoping for Bulls and Sharks wins, but will be tought for Bulls to win at Crusaders. Kieran Read is a big loss though, for me McCaw is no 8.
No Cooper for Reds is a big loss too, Sharks on good form a lot could depend on Michalak. He has been immense recently.
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anonmattyt wrote:Catching up on rugby I missed whilst away. Deon Fourie started 8 for stormers this week and apparently was really good he has played hooker 7 and 8 that is some achievement.
He wins his place back at hooker and then due to injuries goes to back row. Pretty nuts at that level
Liedenburg was injured Matt so Fourie played hooker. Stomers have loads of injuries so down to bare bones, he played quite well at 8 though.
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I badly want the Sharks to win!!! Not sure if we'kll make the finals though. I will be streaming the semi if we make it. Not sure if the missus will allow me to skip going out for dinner to catch up on the other match
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if someone has released a foreign player during the summer, how much do you have to pay to sign them?
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If they are foreign they go back onto the foreign transfer market, so you have to bid as you would for any other foreign player.
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Nope , i'v had nee bother with it.
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Folks, we need to make some decisions around the Euro competitions and making them more competitive.
My thoughts are that we change the selection rules to this.
1. If players are in yours and your opponents squad, they cannot play for you in that match.
2. EQ requirement remains at 10 in the matchday squad, but the requirement for the starting XV is upped from 5 to 7.
Will make it tougher for us to win against the top European sides, which is the point as at present the pool stages are basically us competing for seeding positions.
My thoughts are that we change the selection rules to this.
1. If players are in yours and your opponents squad, they cannot play for you in that match.
2. EQ requirement remains at 10 in the matchday squad, but the requirement for the starting XV is upped from 5 to 7.
Will make it tougher for us to win against the top European sides, which is the point as at present the pool stages are basically us competing for seeding positions.
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Like both of those Pete, will make it much tougher
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Agree you'll probably have to remind me when it comes to european time!!
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Yep fair, should make it much more competitive.
Just to clarify, players cant play for our teams or both teams?
Just to clarify, players cant play for our teams or both teams?
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mat you having a pick on draft?
7 eng players will be tough, especially if any are injured.
reckon my 7 eng starters in HC would be Stevens, Lindsay, Garvey, Kennedy, Armitage, Sackey/Yarde, Armitage.
7 eng players will be tough, especially if any are injured.
reckon my 7 eng starters in HC would be Stevens, Lindsay, Garvey, Kennedy, Armitage, Sackey/Yarde, Armitage.
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See Conrad Smith is injured as well now. No Smith, Kahui, SBW for the AB's.
Wonder if Freuan will be given an oppourtuinty.
Wonder if Freuan will be given an oppourtuinty.
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Smith only expected to miss 2 games.
Nonu/Freuan wouldnt work for me, but they dont have many other options.
Nonu/Freuan wouldnt work for me, but they dont have many other options.
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10.cruden
12.carter
13.nonu
12.carter
13.nonu
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Freaun brainless for me and not an AB. Nonu to 13 is an option i agree driver. be interesting to see what they do
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bit extreme. i think he is decent, agree lacks a bit of a rugby brain but a strong runner.
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Black or white with Matt, there's no middle ground lol
I really like Fruen, can switch off sometimes but can be devistating. Carter not a great option at 12 for me
I really like Fruen, can switch off sometimes but can be devistating. Carter not a great option at 12 for me
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Freaun looks for contact all the time even when he is clean through. the guy is super strong but does massively switch off and is not as good defensively as you would expect a lump his size to be.
I think he is still young but hands(in contact and catching) and general game awareness need a lot of work.
He is like a less polished manu.
I like Carter at 12 and he would actually work quite well with Freaun as they have played together before. Personally i think Freaun could find international a bit of a step to far. Its easy playing there for canterbury but a different prospect that next level up
I think he is still young but hands(in contact and catching) and general game awareness need a lot of work.
He is like a less polished manu.
I like Carter at 12 and he would actually work quite well with Freaun as they have played together before. Personally i think Freaun could find international a bit of a step to far. Its easy playing there for canterbury but a different prospect that next level up
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Freuen at least knows how to pass the ball and make an offload something Manu still hasnt learned...
Never seen nowt wrong with his hands but real agree he does tend to switch off sometimes
Never seen nowt wrong with his hands but real agree he does tend to switch off sometimes
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Just seen the note apologies all I will do the draft tomorrow. Completely forgot
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Any of you having posts disappear??!
I have had to
Post things several times since Saturday
I have had to
Post things several times since Saturday
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http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_7930131,00.html
Anyone think Alberts will end up playing there. Like roussouw equally comfortable back row or second row.
Seen him play 4 a few times and was immense but for
Me want him in backrow for carrying and boks have etzbeth. Seriously useful to have a versatile player in pack.
Mccaw offers this In any backrow position now
Anyone think Alberts will end up playing there. Like roussouw equally comfortable back row or second row.
Seen him play 4 a few times and was immense but for
Me want him in backrow for carrying and boks have etzbeth. Seriously useful to have a versatile player in pack.
Mccaw offers this In any backrow position now
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Played well too. Big enough to play second row anyway! Could maybe see him move there as he gets older and slows down.
McCaw has changed him game massively, still 1st to every ruck but a good carrier. Has been great at 8 recently.
McCaw has changed him game massively, still 1st to every ruck but a good carrier. Has been great at 8 recently.
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I always found I stole more ball playing 8 as you can pick moment. For me 6 is mccaw moving forward.
His carrying is decent but at int level you need more. Playing behind crusaders pack at 8 is
A dream. They are the only scrummaging outfit in s15 who would do well in nh. Crockett massively improved. Crusaders always steaming forward which is easy for an 8 and massively enjoyable. Also read best 8 in world so no need for mccaw there
His carrying is decent but at int level you need more. Playing behind crusaders pack at 8 is
A dream. They are the only scrummaging outfit in s15 who would do well in nh. Crockett massively improved. Crusaders always steaming forward which is easy for an 8 and massively enjoyable. Also read best 8 in world so no need for mccaw there
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Crusaders just picking up last week. Carter & McCaw were majestic. Always move up a gear come business end
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They bullied them
Last week. Bulls no plan b and morne is in horrible form. Goosen grant Lambie all more deserving of boks ten spot.
When a player is that out of form dropping them helps. Morne a top player but just not happening. Hougaard does not help him or any 10. Great talent at 9 but not a game manager as such. Fdp made morne life easier
Last week. Bulls no plan b and morne is in horrible form. Goosen grant Lambie all more deserving of boks ten spot.
When a player is that out of form dropping them helps. Morne a top player but just not happening. Hougaard does not help him or any 10. Great talent at 9 but not a game manager as such. Fdp made morne life easier
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Kieron Read is best player in world for me hands down , never makes mistakes and always performs in the big games.
I'm a big Houghard fan but think his long term 10 is Lambie. Controls things so well.
I'm a big Houghard fan but think his long term 10 is Lambie. Controls things so well.
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Never really a best player in world as each position so different. Carters influence so massive on a game etc. read best 8 by a bit on form. He is immaculate and has been for 2 years.
For me goosen will be long term 10 for SA he offers control but can also attack like anything. Would get capped during rc if not injured. Young lad pollard
I signed is 18 and another morne Steyn in making.
Lambie will be 12 or 15 IMO
For me goosen will be long term 10 for SA he offers control but can also attack like anything. Would get capped during rc if not injured. Young lad pollard
I signed is 18 and another morne Steyn in making.
Lambie will be 12 or 15 IMO
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Good news http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3823_7880765,00.html
Bad news http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3823_7880823,00.html
He has no luck.. I thought he was out until September. Leicester 9 spot cursed. Hope
He does
Not go way of Ellis another top Player.
Bad news http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3823_7880823,00.html
He has no luck.. I thought he was out until September. Leicester 9 spot cursed. Hope
He does
Not go way of Ellis another top Player.
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I hope not , can sort of take comfort in that we have Care as back up but on his day Youngs is the best 9 in the world.
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Never seen that apart from vs Australia at twickers when we did length of pitch. I left the stadium convinced we had a once in a life time
Talent. Best in world in position needs consistency over a season.he has not done
That
Hope he is not out that long. Shoulders are a night mare. I need
Mine done and everyone says don't do it as hard to get back. My last season so will have It after. Had
Other scoped but not reconstructed but that one never same.
Injuries affect pace
And explosivity which is big part
Of his game. Good
Thing is physio these days is so much better. Mccaw ferris etc would have been finished years ago but today they know how to manage players
Talent. Best in world in position needs consistency over a season.he has not done
That
Hope he is not out that long. Shoulders are a night mare. I need
Mine done and everyone says don't do it as hard to get back. My last season so will have It after. Had
Other scoped but not reconstructed but that one never same.
Injuries affect pace
And explosivity which is big part
Of his game. Good
Thing is physio these days is so much better. Mccaw ferris etc would have been finished years ago but today they know how to manage players
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Cockrill was playing injury up saying back after AI but seen him say be back Sept/Oct and probably get injured again on England duty. Always very cagey about injuries Tigers, I never believe what they report.
On Wood:
""He's really improving all the time. He's not yet got up to the stage of running on his foot but the toe is improving."
Likely to be back, but not even running yet??? That's some foresight when he can't even run.
On Wood:
""He's really improving all the time. He's not yet got up to the stage of running on his foot but the toe is improving."
Likely to be back, but not even running yet??? That's some foresight when he can't even run.
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I don't know Matt ,
Down under in the win over Aus he played a blinder and was pretty good in SA.
Down under in the win over Aus he played a blinder and was pretty good in SA.
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Pooly 100% agree. May wash after that comment.
Read on site wood trainIng then saw your quote also.
On glos paper youngs back end September but now everywhere has after Ai,s. cockerill often stretches truth. Did youngs have recon surgery ??? If so could be between 3 months and 30. Such a nasty joint the force it delivers and takes is unnatural. Luck of gods
Read on site wood trainIng then saw your quote also.
On glos paper youngs back end September but now everywhere has after Ai,s. cockerill often stretches truth. Did youngs have recon surgery ??? If so could be between 3 months and 30. Such a nasty joint the force it delivers and takes is unnatural. Luck of gods
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What I mean driver is a full season internationally.
Read, hari, Conrad,genia, bod, carter, mccaw etc all done it. Ie
Dominated season. Then best in world.
Youngs never done this over a season. Moments of unbeatable but not over a season. Still really young. Joc never done it either yet is most talented player I have ever seen yet best in world ??? Not until
A consIstent season of brilliance.
Joc player I want to sign most. What for him pooly ??
Read, hari, Conrad,genia, bod, carter, mccaw etc all done it. Ie
Dominated season. Then best in world.
Youngs never done this over a season. Moments of unbeatable but not over a season. Still really young. Joc never done it either yet is most talented player I have ever seen yet best in world ??? Not until
A consIstent season of brilliance.
Joc player I want to sign most. What for him pooly ??
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I don't think BOD has ever had a bad season , been the best NH player over last 10 years.
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Exactly absolute legend. Nz killed him during lions dr
That reason.
Top
Chap also. Like all legends as he is has
Got older has changed his game. Bod no longer the outside break but has better feet better hand off
And distribution. Add in breakdown and defending equals wc
That reason.
Top
Chap also. Like all legends as he is has
Got older has changed his game. Bod no longer the outside break but has better feet better hand off
And distribution. Add in breakdown and defending equals wc
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It's just the class with which BOD still plays with. HC final - just so beautiful to watch still, does things others can't.
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Bod probably best nh 13 of all time??? Sella Equal for me. Sella strength of a Bull touch of a piano player. His motto ("it's all about running across the turf and passing a ball around with a few friends"
He was unreal and best in world for ten years.
In my lifetime bunce, bod,sella the best. Jason little, conrad, fourie second best. Great players All
He was unreal and best in world for ten years.
In my lifetime bunce, bod,sella the best. Jason little, conrad, fourie second best. Great players All
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Bod is a real reader of a game. As pace goes his awareness increases. Still favourite for lions 13. JD and Manu will push though
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He's one of the greats without a shadow of a doubt. Majestic in attack and ferocious in defense.
His try in the first test for the Lions in 01 still sends shivers down my back , sums up the phase class is permanent.
His try in the first test for the Lions in 01 still sends shivers down my back , sums up the phase class is permanent.
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