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Upcoming Fixtures: AP R1 - Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks, Gloucester v Northampton Saints, London Welsh v Leicester Tigers, Saracens v London Irish, London Wasps v Harlequins, Worcester Warriors v Bath Rugby

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1. pullthestrings
2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:12 pm

Mac started the season great then had a massive dip. Kicking was strong. Think they like him down there.

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Post by stnick88 Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:17 pm

i always thought he was a poor kicker, but towards the end of the season his goal kicking was good, especially in the final against Toulon.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:46 pm

I really like McAllister, would walk into most NH set ups.

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 17 Jul 2012, 1:43 pm

I'd be up for that Pete Ok! will be interesting to see who comes up!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 17 Jul 2012, 1:57 pm

I'm considering when to do it, and what order to put the picks in.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 17 Jul 2012, 2:13 pm

Everyone but top 4/6 to get a pick?

There was obvious gaps in the league

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Post by stnick88 Tue 17 Jul 2012, 2:17 pm

I would just say everyone gets one but in reverse order, so 12th gets 1st pick etc. maybe give the bottom 4 teams from last year 2 picks? obviously no-one has to pick if they dont want to release a current squad member

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 17 Jul 2012, 2:21 pm

I'm just looking through squads, as I think there has been a closing of some of the gaps between a few teams since the end of the season. I currently have a list of about 25 players so there will be the opportunity for some teams to have more than one pick.
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Post by prop_lyd Tue 17 Jul 2012, 2:23 pm

Due to my laptop not working I'd say if someone wants to p.m me when it's my pick that'll be great!! Probably looking at lineout lock, 10 and centre right?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 17 Jul 2012, 4:24 pm

Just been through teams to see who is stronger than whom and the way I see it is there are 9 teams with not much to choose between them, then a little gap to the three other teams. What I am going to do, is randomise the three teams into an order for them to get one pick each, then randomise the 9 for them to get one pick each, then back to the 3 for a second pick each.

You can either take your pick or you can pass, it is totally your call.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 17 Jul 2012, 5:01 pm

Ben McCalman and one of my English locks can leave, not looking for the earth for them either.
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Post by Driver Tue 17 Jul 2012, 8:02 pm

Be interesting to see which players people go for in this draft.
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Post by Guest Tue 17 Jul 2012, 9:13 pm

I think mac is a bit better not much. I think he Is a glittering talent who ruined his career for money so who can blame him.

He was good for Toulouse during wc when best players away. Then got dropped and came back well.

Would say there is not much between him d'arcy Scott etc all much of a muchness in terms of quality. D'arcy on his way down but was great little player.



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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 17 Jul 2012, 9:46 pm

I wouldnt have D'Arcy/Scott anywhere near Mac at the moment. He was in superb form start of the season dipped for a little while year but then picked up again when we got to to the crunch stage of the season. Think he would walk into any of the home nations sides bar maybe Wales

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Post by stnick88 Tue 17 Jul 2012, 11:02 pm

out of you lads that play local rugby, what is an average weight you would bench press on both a long bar and dumbbells? appreciate that it would probably be more for forwards than backs!

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Post by Driver Wed 18 Jul 2012, 6:55 am

Iv done 180kg at most but on a average I do 150kg
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 18 Jul 2012, 7:07 am

70, 80 or 90 for me Nick for 6 sets of 8 with a superset in between (usually a core exercise). Thats with a bar.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:38 am

180kg benchpress driver, are you having a laugh!
Thats double what Steve has said!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Jul 2012, 9:36 am

Anything around/above 120kg is Strong I reckon. I've hovered around 100kg when into lifting but 70/80kg these days.

I think you generally get stronger with age anyway, think Sheridan was around 200+

What are you interested for Nick?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Jul 2012, 9:38 am

http://www.sportinglife.com/rugby-union/news/article/504/7909184/elbow-surgery-for-lawes

Set back for Lawes

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Post by stnick88 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 10:00 am

I go to the gym a fair bit and was just interested really.

theres a couple of monsters that go that do around 120kg was wondering how that compared to local standard rugby players.

max lahiff pushes the most at irish, think its around the 200 mark.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 18 Jul 2012, 10:04 am

Lawes needs a big season next year, really think he's key to England's pack going forward, if he can add a bit more carrying to his game then we could have a world class lock.

Want to see some more of Garvey too now, he could have a great partnership with Skivington next year - and hopefully next year Launchbury will be moved to second row at Wasps.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 18 Jul 2012, 10:08 am

When I was playing rugby properly I think I was doing 130/140kg, but now I'd be lucky to pick up the bar on its own!

Have been doing pre-season training again for the first time without being injured in years and trying to keep up with all the 20 year olds is killing me off day by day. I think we play National League 3 now, each season we have pretty much our whole first team poached as we wont pay anyone to play for us and then manage to go up a league!

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 18 Jul 2012, 10:56 am

Which team's that for then Chris? I don't tend to do bench press....have other exercises I use to help!
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 18 Jul 2012, 11:03 am

club called Westcliff mate - just do a lot with youth players, unfortunately they all get picked off and paid by clubs like Southend, Barking and other teams - Jackson Wray is our first player in the AP though!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 12:14 pm

Player draft thread is up, Welsh came out the hat first and have first pick - https://www.606v2.com/t32680-player-draft
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Post by prop_lyd Wed 18 Jul 2012, 1:03 pm

Guys....with this draft what position should I focus on? 2nd row or look at hooker or Outside backs?
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 18 Jul 2012, 1:27 pm

Prop - would probably look at maybe another player who can cover a few positions in the backthree, or a lock. The Russian lock at Sale has looked pretty good and could be a good one.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 1:29 pm

If anyone is after a tighthead Brok Harris is available on the cheap.
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Post by prop_lyd Wed 18 Jul 2012, 1:52 pm

Yeah the only problem is who to let go if I bring in another lock......I'm tempted by someone who's good who can cover maybe 10/12
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 18 Jul 2012, 1:54 pm

You dont mean Henson...

Botica looks like a prospect - if he can play anything like his dad could then he's going to be good!

Want to see how well Sella's son does in the Sarries academy, meant to be a really good player already.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 18 Jul 2012, 2:17 pm

Haha i released Henson a while back....don't think I'd want to risk him!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 18 Jul 2012, 4:26 pm

Anything over 100kg impractical for a lock as it doesn't really help there game is what I've been told.

Any rugby player who spends anytime on a one rep max deserves shooting. Gotta turn the weights into a cardio as often as possible.


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Post by stnick88 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 4:34 pm

I dont get why people do that.

The least I'll do is 5/6 reps. generally try to do 8-10.

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Post by Guest Wed 18 Jul 2012, 5:08 pm

I generally do reps at 80/90 train to fatigue. in all honesty i hate weights now i dont play seriously and much more enjoy cardio and actual rugby training and being rugby fit

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Post by Driver Wed 18 Jul 2012, 5:43 pm

No joke nick I used to be massive into building my chest up and didnt really work anything else
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Post by 'Arry Spurs Wed 18 Jul 2012, 7:02 pm

I'm off to Magaluf tomorrow for a week lads, anyone fancy keeping watch of Wasps for me whilst I am away?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 18 Jul 2012, 7:45 pm

180 at 19/20/21 is difficult to believe.

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Post by Driver Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:12 pm

I used to be stupidly into it fella , was a pretty unhealthy obsession.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:13 pm

Not saying it didn't happen just hard to believe.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:31 pm

Not saying this is what Driver does...

But remember being in det in Iraq and going to gym with US Marines. They used to pick up these 80kg dumbells (well two of them did) and continue to "bench press" them.

The bench press involved a spotter either side and the dumbell moving from the lock position to about 2 inches from that lock position nearer the chest for about 3 reps and loads a screaming.

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Post by Driver Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:40 pm

That's the fannys way of doing it.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:48 pm

That's how the Spams roll

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Post by Driver Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:52 pm

Spams Laugh
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 18 Jul 2012, 8:56 pm

Mixed meat of no origin.....

You not heard that before? Lol

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Post by Driver Wed 18 Jul 2012, 9:06 pm

Nope , My great auntie is married to one. I may have to use that phase come the next time i'm down Grantham and see them.

Should go down well.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 9:32 pm

Anyone want Brok Harris for £3 million? If not I am going to release him.
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Post by stnick88 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 9:42 pm

il take him mate

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 18 Jul 2012, 9:44 pm

Cool, will stick it on confirms OK
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Post by stnick88 Thu 19 Jul 2012, 11:17 am

your go pete, stop making us all wait!! Smile

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