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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:30 am

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Upcoming Fixtures: AP R1 - Newcastle Falcons v Sale Sharks, Gloucester v Northampton Saints, London Welsh v Leicester Tigers, Saracens v London Irish, London Wasps v Harlequins, Worcester Warriors v Bath Rugby

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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:02 am

Always difficult to tell from friendlies really as you never know quite how much effort the opposition was putting in, but it does appear that Saracens are trying to evolve their style of play a little.

Was good to see Farrell getting the start at 10 for them, how did he go? I heard he got a try?
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:03 am

Gill makes bench Chris. Pocock aside a better looking Aus side.

15. Adam Ashley-Cooper ,14. Drew Mitchell ,13. Rob Horne ,12. Berrick Barnes ,11. Digby Ioane ,10. Quade Cooper ,9. Will Genia captain),8. Scott Higginbotham ,7. Michael Hooper ,6. Dave Dennis ,5. Nathan Sharpe ,4. Sitaleki Timani ,3. Ben Alexander ,2. Stephen Moore ,1. Benn Robinson

Run On Reserves: 16. Saia Fainga'a ,17. James Slipper ,18. Radike Samo ,19. Liam Gill ,20. Nick Phipps ,21. Anthony Fainga'a ,22. Kurtley Beale

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:11 am

Simmons dropped altogether, big Radike covering 2nd row. Not sure about that, think Deans makes some odd decisions sometimes, and although i know they have injuries, he seems to have no idea what Australia's best side is.
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:25 am

I simply do not get simmons as a player so think its a decent decision.

He has is so unphysical and whilst young i just cant see him kicking on.

Timani is a good player and sharpe is excellent so a good pairing,

Good to see gill involved he was excellent this year

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:30 am

No issues with Timani and Sharpe as a pairing Mat, but Samo is a number 8 covering lock from the bench. Simmons hasn't had as good a season as he had the year before when the Reds won the title, but it's an odd decision to drop him from the bench after he had 8 minutes as a blood replacement last week, and didn't do anything particularly wrong.

Deans seems to me to spend too much time trying to counter the opposition, rather than sticking out his best side and making the opposition worry about them.
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Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:38 am

i think Deans is aware that samo offers ball carrying and always does well against nz and has played lock a bit. i agree that Deans makes some weird decisions though

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Post by Driver Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:42 am

Guys

Im going camping and wont be back on till monday,
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:52 pm

The following are available for cash or player swaps.

Ben Kayser, Ben Alexander, Werner Kruger, Rob Simmons, Tom Casson, James Downey, Nevin Spence, Luke Fitzgerald, Andrew Trimble, Matt Smith, Lee Byrne.
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Post by CJB Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:47 pm

Bit of advise lads, keep Delve or McCalman

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri Aug 24, 2012 11:15 pm

McCalman has had injury problems and is out again, I'd be more tempted by Delve to be honest, although I don't rate him that highly either.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:42 am

Oz are the best in world at pick and drives. The reds have mastered it and the speed they do it at makes it very hard to defend.

Light years ahead of the northern hemisphere in that respect.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:47 am

Big hit from AAC. Selfish from Dagg.

Cooper defending at 10. Big test for him tonight. Hasn't shirked one yet.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:31 am

even Nigel Owens turns into an average ref. Missing a lot from NZ.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:36 am

Great play from SBW, AB's just starting to turn the screw

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:00 am

Australia kicking far too much. Just doesn't work. Oz pack in general been poor. Hooper had a fine first test has done very well against McCaw.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:11 am

They've been awful in attack, look clueless

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:34 am

Timani going well. Sbw nailed great defence

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:36 am

Dreadful kick Barnes. Dagg looking great. Top positioning and kicking. Quade does not look fit

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:37 am

Cooper was really poor, Dagg outstanding

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:39 am

I am watching on replay only just realised, no idea of result So will stay off here!!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:41 am

Not surprised your picking out Cooper. Easy target for you it seems.

Every Oz back was awful except perhaps Ioane. Barnes for me probably the worst after Horne was dire when he was on.

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:44 am

Barnes is having a stinker. I am 34 in

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Post by Guest Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:46 am

Hard to play with a pack goIng backwards. Australia look like boys against men

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:46 am

Haha....I thought you were a little behind

Steve, agree there, Aus backs were terrible. You tend to mention the 10 though as he's the pivot, not an easy target at all.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:49 am

The Oz plan was awful. There changes we bad and it reeks of Deans being on his way out. if you want to kick the ball then you keep Barnes at 10. Cooper can kick well if he doesn't need to put distance on it but if he has to makes 50m he loses his radar.

Change of coach might be worth it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:04 am

Dean will leave after this 4N I reckon, Aus haven't kicked on at all

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:10 pm

Henson possibly out till next year

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=36272

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:14 pm

I'm not convinced that a fractured cheekbone would keep him out for 4 months. Unless he requires surgery I would imagine if it is fractured that he would be back some time in November at the latest.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:19 pm

Yea it's a little over the top, shame though I was quite looking forward to seeing how he went

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:43 pm

Available for cash -

Ben Kayser - £5 million
Will Welch - £5 million
Johnnie Beattie - £8 million

Charlie Davies - £2 million
Tom Casson - £2 million
James Downey - £7 million
Luke Fitzgerald - £10 million
Andrew Trimble - £10 million
Matt Smith - £8 million
Lee Byrne - £10 million
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:47 pm

Ben Alexander and Werner Kruger could also both go for cash as well.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:25 pm

As could Rob Simmons
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Post by Guest Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:18 pm

Brutal SA vs Argentina test.

Great game to watch. Argentina immense in Mendoza very few teams win there.

Argentina have some players coming through. Argie tight head great and Roncero rolled back years. Alberts Coetzee and etzbeth went well. Steyn was a beast and lobbe technically great

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:23 pm

Come on folks, you know you want to buy these players, bargain prices for all.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:05 pm

Good prices Pete but most of us are at 40 limit. I'd be interested but it would means releasing somebody else and adding cash!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:08 pm

Well let me know which you are interested in and lets see if there's a deal that we can come to that suits both parties. Very Happy
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:11 pm

Haha....sounds like you have the dealing bug.

Most of the players I want you won't sell Sad

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:15 pm

Everyone has a price, there are some that I would find harder to sell than others, but I have a list of about 10 foreign targets, and the window for getting any of them is running out.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:16 pm

Just to let everyone know, there will be injuries during the RC and 6N's.

You will all get 3 injuries after AP R1, and one will return to fitness for AP R5, the next for AP R6 and the last one for Heino/Amlin R1.

There will then be no further injuries until after Heino/Amlin R4 when you lose players again.

Injuries will be posted on your individual pages, and there will be an injuries page as a sticky with all teams crocks on there.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:20 pm

Henson apparantly going to be out for 6 weeks with a minor fracture to his cheekbone according to London Welsh on Facebook.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:25 pm

Typical lazy journalism!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:20 pm

Anyone about for some deals? It's been very quiet on here this weekend.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:27 pm

I'm floating about but doubt we'll nail anything.

Stacks of rugby on Bahrain TV so catching up from the weekend (any excuse to stay off the beer)

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:42 pm

I think we might struggle Pooly, you seem to want all my top class players but without any top class coming back my way Wink
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:56 pm

Not willing to lose the players you want as backbone of my team.

Always willing to lose top players if deal right but Youngs def nfs, Cruden & JOC would take big.

We all have untouchables in our squad.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:26 pm

Looks like Giteau has picked up a bit of form for Toulon! At last!

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8017288,00.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:59 am

Big calls in SA for a change at 10/9 and Brussow to come back. SA were awful at breakdown on Sat, the Backrow just isn't working at all.

http://mobi.supersport.com/rugby/springboks/news/120827/Meyer_must_heed_wakeup_call

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:05 am

I'd be suprised if Meyer goes to Brussow long term. He likes things physical so difficult to look away from Coetzee and Burger as the SA flankers.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:07 am

Ansbro broken his neck http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/19389539

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