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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
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2008/2009 - London Irish
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Bath Rugby | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
2 | Gloucester | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
3 | Harlequins | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
4 | Leicester Tigers | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
5 | London Irish | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
6 | London Wasps | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
7 | London Welsh | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
8 | Newcastle Falcons | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
9 | Northampton Saints | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
10 | Sale Sharks | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
11 | Saracens | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | |
12 | Worcester Warriors | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.
Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Not under Meyer. JDJ would get in most int sides yet does not get picked. JDJ would be a great England 12 or 13.
Jordaan should move to bulls. I was a Meyer fan but he is such a boer that whenever there is a judgement call he goes with the someone from the high veld.
Goosen habana Steyn jdj pietersen Lambie is world beating.
Steyn habana jdv Steyn pietersen kirchner is not
Jordaan should move to bulls. I was a Meyer fan but he is such a boer that whenever there is a judgement call he goes with the someone from the high veld.
Goosen habana Steyn jdj pietersen Lambie is world beating.
Steyn habana jdv Steyn pietersen kirchner is not
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New Zealand:
Forwards: A Hore (Taranaki), K Mealamu (Auckland), W Crockett (Canterbury), C Faumuina (Auckland), B Franks (Canterbury), O Franks (Canterbury), T Woodcock (North Harbour), B Retallick (Bay of Plenty), L Romano (Canterbury), S Whitelock (Canterbury), S Cane (Bay of Plenty), R McCaw (Canterbury, capt), L Messam (Waikato), K Read (Canterbury), A Thomson (Otago), V Vito (Wellington)
Backs: A Smith (Manawatu), P Weepu (Auckland), D Carter (Canterbury), A Cruden (Manawatu), T Ellison (Otago), M Nonu (Wellington), C Smith (Wellington), I Dagg (Hawke's Bay), H Gear (Wellington), C Jane (Wellington), B Smith (Otago), J Savea (Wellington)
Forwards: A Hore (Taranaki), K Mealamu (Auckland), W Crockett (Canterbury), C Faumuina (Auckland), B Franks (Canterbury), O Franks (Canterbury), T Woodcock (North Harbour), B Retallick (Bay of Plenty), L Romano (Canterbury), S Whitelock (Canterbury), S Cane (Bay of Plenty), R McCaw (Canterbury, capt), L Messam (Waikato), K Read (Canterbury), A Thomson (Otago), V Vito (Wellington)
Backs: A Smith (Manawatu), P Weepu (Auckland), D Carter (Canterbury), A Cruden (Manawatu), T Ellison (Otago), M Nonu (Wellington), C Smith (Wellington), I Dagg (Hawke's Bay), H Gear (Wellington), C Jane (Wellington), B Smith (Otago), J Savea (Wellington)
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What is everyone planning on doing with their players for the RC in the first round of games? I was going to just play players that werent picked for the RC as assuming that they are all going to be on the other side of the world training etc.
Think I've lost de Villiers, Cane, Messam and Savea so far! Assuming Albacete, Hernandez and Gill could also go.
Think I've lost de Villiers, Cane, Messam and Savea so far! Assuming Albacete, Hernandez and Gill could also go.
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Prop, it's your turn on the draft buddy
Chris, for me if players have been away for 2 rounds of the RC and people play them in R1 of this game, then I will be marking down as no way would they travel back for a game and then off again for another 2 weeks of internationals on the other side of the world.
Chris, for me if players have been away for 2 rounds of the RC and people play them in R1 of this game, then I will be marking down as no way would they travel back for a game and then off again for another 2 weeks of internationals on the other side of the world.
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Ah I didn;t know that, I thought it started second week of the season. Will be interesting to see how this effects the season this year - got such a bad start last year during the WC.
Should be a great opportunity for some Argentinians to come through strong, they seem to have some great youngsters around and this could well put them in the spotlight.
Should be a great opportunity for some Argentinians to come through strong, they seem to have some great youngsters around and this could well put them in the spotlight.
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European homepage has been updated with Amlin pools, and fixture list now has Heino fixtures added. Will get the Amlin fixtures added later this week and Anglo Welsh pools/fixtures will be up the week after.
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Stade will be a toughie , i'm going to be fielding an 'A' team in the Amlin and LV cup this year. Need to throw everything into the league.
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Sorry didn't realise!! Is Whitten an OC? Do people feel I should improve centre?
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I'd defiantly go for a 13 mate. Clarke might struggle at Wuss in real life when Andy Short comes back. Boys dynamite!
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I am a big short fan think he will be a star for me. No Guildford in AB squad ???? Great for me
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Summer tournament semi finals are now on the summer tournament homepage.
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Fixture list now updated with Amlin matches.
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http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2012-13/rugby/story/168123.html
don't know how (if at all) this will affect the draft
don't know how (if at all) this will affect the draft
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He went early in the draft so don't think it would be fair to make Worcester pick again now. Prop can keep him.
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http://www.espnscrum.com/super-rugby-2012/rugby/story/168000.html
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Can't argue with many of those, Mowen a bit of surprise mind.
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yeh didnt see much of Mowen. Maybe they think Read didnt play enough games.
Happy to see two of my wingers in there!
Happy to see two of my wingers in there!
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Cameron Shepard no longer joining Saints. Would have been a big signing!
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I like Mowen. Think he is a very strong player.
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Good & bad news for Matt.....
Looks like Burger out for the year at least:
http://www.rugby365.com/article/48928
Looks like Burger out for the year at least:
http://www.rugby365.com/article/48928
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Does this mean that Shepherd is without a club at the moment then?!
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Aus squad:
The squad: Alexander, Ashley-Cooper, Barnes, Beale, Cooper, Dennis, Douglas, A Fainga'a, S Fainga'a, Genia, Gill, Harris, Higginbotham, Hooper, Horne, Ioane, Kepu, Mitchell, Moore, Phipps, Pocock (c), Polota-Nau, Robinson, Samo, Schatz, Sharpe, Simmons, Slipper, Timani, White.
3 OS's in Gill, Pocock & Hooper is interesting. Good to see Drew Mitchell back in, bloke has a had a nightmare over the last few years.
The squad: Alexander, Ashley-Cooper, Barnes, Beale, Cooper, Dennis, Douglas, A Fainga'a, S Fainga'a, Genia, Gill, Harris, Higginbotham, Hooper, Horne, Ioane, Kepu, Mitchell, Moore, Phipps, Pocock (c), Polota-Nau, Robinson, Samo, Schatz, Sharpe, Simmons, Slipper, Timani, White.
3 OS's in Gill, Pocock & Hooper is interesting. Good to see Drew Mitchell back in, bloke has a had a nightmare over the last few years.
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Gavin Henson being talked about as a bolter for Lions.......
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Never know a on form Henson could cause mayhem at 10/12 with Davies outside him.
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Aus team for Lions?
1.Robinson
2.Moore
3.Alexander
4.Simmons
5.Horwill
6.Higginbottom
7.Pocock
8.Palu
9.Genia
10.Barnes
11.Mitchell
12.JOC
13.Cooper
14.Ioane
15.Beale.
1.Robinson
2.Moore
3.Alexander
4.Simmons
5.Horwill
6.Higginbottom
7.Pocock
8.Palu
9.Genia
10.Barnes
11.Mitchell
12.JOC
13.Cooper
14.Ioane
15.Beale.
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:By Welsh fans no doubt.....(sorry Prop)
If he comes back good I'll be happy, won't go with the lions, if one person can sort him out with his last chance it's Lyn Jones
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How is Samo in there? Been about 6th choice for reds this year.
Cooper over Barnes everytime. Barnes an average 10 for me. Much better at 12. If Deans in charge of oz then can't see JOC anywhere other than the wing.
Cooper over Barnes everytime. Barnes an average 10 for me. Much better at 12. If Deans in charge of oz then can't see JOC anywhere other than the wing.
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And Henson such a long way from the Lions side at this point it is unreal. He would need a hell of a season at Welsh.
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just a joke to even consider him when he wasnt played well in years. needs a ridiculously good season for welsh to be considered at all.
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De Jongh called into Boks squad.
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7968563,00.html
http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7968563,00.html
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Sgt_Pooly wrote:JP has broke his finger, JdJ called up
Catch up Chris lol
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I think I'm running a day or two behind with my rugby news at the moment.
Just saw that Gill has been called up to the Aussie squad, glad I didn't release Salvi now! Wish England had as many no7s options as the Aussies - must be something in the way rugby is played in southern hem in that they produce so much more quality in that area!
Just saw that Gill has been called up to the Aussie squad, glad I didn't release Salvi now! Wish England had as many no7s options as the Aussies - must be something in the way rugby is played in southern hem in that they produce so much more quality in that area!
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Burger ruled out for year too, not much else happened. Samo & Drew Mitchell back in Aus squad
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Just to let you all know I won't be on until Thursday night, am taking the kids camping for a couple of days.
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AAAAGGGGHHHH based my centres around JDJ being available. Where did you see Burger out for the year pooly. getting a bit worried about the prognosis for him to be fair.
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Nice to see Tom Wood back after some scaremongering going around.
Nice to see Tom Wood back after some scaremongering going around.
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Or close to coming back rather
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Posted link Matt earlier, they a bit lost what to do with him I think. Is Wood now running?
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Unsure, Mallinder expects him to be 100% fit for first game of seaso.
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He surely must be running then?!?!
There was one released a couple of weeks back that said he was getting close to fitness but hadn't started running.
This looks like good news, be nice to have him involved in the England set up again.
There was one released a couple of weeks back that said he was getting close to fitness but hadn't started running.
This looks like good news, be nice to have him involved in the England set up again.
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Will be interesting how he's used with England again - seemed a shoe in for the captaincy, but Robshaw has been great for us. Was some talk about trying him as a no8 a while back, not sure how true that is though!
Hope Charlie Matthews comes through at Quins this year, 6ft 8inches and has done very well in the games he's had - imagine he'll start off as a bench player.
Hope Charlie Matthews comes through at Quins this year, 6ft 8inches and has done very well in the games he's had - imagine he'll start off as a bench player.
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SA series showed me that we need to be more physical. Whilst Englands locks are Botha and Parling we can't really afford to have Robshaw and Wood in the same backrow. Currently Robshaws shirt and Wood will have a job getting it off him.
Whilst I think Wood is probably the better backrower when fit, I think Robshaw is well ahead in the mind of Lancaster at this point.
All this being said, we currently don't really have that many physical backrowers fit. Likes of Armitage, Fourie and Haskell who do bring physicality haven't been properly involved for one reason or another.
Whilst I think Wood is probably the better backrower when fit, I think Robshaw is well ahead in the mind of Lancaster at this point.
All this being said, we currently don't really have that many physical backrowers fit. Likes of Armitage, Fourie and Haskell who do bring physicality haven't been properly involved for one reason or another.
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Matthews a top prospect. Probably a bit too similar to Robson when I last saw him to start for Quins, unless he has put on some serious bulk this summer.
Him, Kruis and Gaskell my main hope for England's locks at this point, although Gaskell's window is closing.
Him, Kruis and Gaskell my main hope for England's locks at this point, although Gaskell's window is closing.
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He's got to force himself back in which can only be good.
A trio of Croft, Robshaw & Wood fighting for the flanks with TJ & Haskell too is great for England.
Gaskell has never really kicked on, shame as he looked great. Happens all the time though with youngsters, thought Gaskell was pretty poor last season Steve.
A trio of Croft, Robshaw & Wood fighting for the flanks with TJ & Haskell too is great for England.
Gaskell has never really kicked on, shame as he looked great. Happens all the time though with youngsters, thought Gaskell was pretty poor last season Steve.
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He was alright for Sale, but he is a not a 6 in anyway except his a pretty good on turnovers for a guy of his size.
I hope he is alongside Gray this season, although Frazer McKenzie and Gray a more appetizing pair to me. McKenzie the only player I would have signed from the Draft had he been availible.
I hope he is alongside Gray this season, although Frazer McKenzie and Gray a more appetizing pair to me. McKenzie the only player I would have signed from the Draft had he been availible.
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TJ is too old, he wont be around at next WC so wouldnt pick him now. also dont think he is good enough. good AP player but not int. class for me, although he didnt let himself down v SA to be fair.
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