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Post by Afro Tue 10 Jul 2012, 9:05 pm

First topic message reminder :

It is preseason and the new rich owners of Reading have decided that Brian McDermott is not the man to take the club forward, and your team have been recruited to oversee the plans that will ultimately see them stay up in the Premier League.

You will find a suitable new manager and have been given £20m for buying players to achieve this target. The cost of player purchases will be those on http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk plus 20%. You can raise further funds through players sales – the price you will receive will be http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk less 20%. Loaning in a player will cost 20% of their TM value. A player who is not contracted, will be free to join you at no cost.

You will present your new manager and squad list (with details on all ins and outs), plus any other innovative ideas you have that will help the quest of staying up. This should be posted on this page no later than midday on Tuesday 17th July.

You will be judged on which team makes the best, most innovative and most realistic choices to keep Reading up.

The teams for the first task will be:

Hero
Nando
Mouse
Cherries


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Olly
Brahma


I suggest both teams set-up a team page each, assign a project manager and pick a team name. I will be watching…


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:09 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:
Olly wrote:Afro what is the link only admins can see?

What do you mean Olly? The league runner pages?



When you have Team Names and PMs, please can you let me know

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Post by sodhat Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:09 pm

https://www.606v2.com/t32390-team-1

This is our team page guys

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Post by Bull Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:09 pm

Logic.

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:10 pm

I think everyone can see all of the post. There is no admin only.

I have split the teams by colours, but that should be it?
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Post by Hero Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:12 pm

https://www.606v2.com/t32391-the-a-team

Here's the link for my team.

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:12 pm

Unless I have put something that I can see because of my old FL access?

I put links to the transfer market value website to use as a basis for players bought/sold

Try this

Transfer Market Value

Any better?
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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:14 pm

Bizarre - Hero what's up with the URLs?
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Post by Hero Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:18 pm

Hmm don't know, I can access them fine!

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Post by Bull Wed 11 Jul 2012, 4:20 pm

cause your admin.

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Post by Bull Wed 11 Jul 2012, 5:00 pm

Afro is there realse prices half the TP value and what if they have no value on TM?

is there valye 500k? and to relase is 250k?

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 6:52 pm

You don't release, but you can sell. The amount received is value on TM less 20%

If they have no value then no one wants to buy them. Then it's up to you if you keep them or let them go for nothing
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Post by Bull Wed 11 Jul 2012, 7:05 pm

less then 20% ? how does that work out?

would it not be easy as 50% im not great with numbers

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 7:10 pm

It is 20% less than their value so for every £1m they are worth, you get £800k.

I.e. selling equals 80% of TM value, buying equals 120% of TM value.

That is your limits so if you want to sell them for 50% then you can.

The fact that you are great with numbers is not my problem.
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Post by sodhat Wed 11 Jul 2012, 7:34 pm

Yeah perhaps our esteemed PM could re assign the task.

Or use an online calculator bull, there are loads

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Post by Russell_Elmo Wed 11 Jul 2012, 7:40 pm

This is a brilliant idea by the way

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 7:43 pm

It's not too late to sign up Russ.

Try and find one more to play as well if you can
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Post by Russell_Elmo Wed 11 Jul 2012, 8:06 pm

I would really be interested but I just haven't got the time at the moment.

It's quite bad that during the summer I have more to do than when I'm at university :P

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 8:20 pm

Fair enough. Saves me the dilemma of which team to put you on I suppose
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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 8:46 pm

Gents. I have given a couple of hints, but from now on it is up to you.

It's how you interpret the task and justifying your decisions
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 11 Jul 2012, 8:47 pm

When we want to sign a player Afro what is the process? Same with a manager?
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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:21 pm

You don't have to go through any process, just include them on your submission
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:22 pm

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:23 pm

No more help. It's down to you to interpret the task, just like in the Apprentice
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:25 pm

Fair enough we shall do. We have a plan that is coming into action Cool
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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:33 pm

Don't worry girls, Viva is here ill save my team.
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Post by Bull Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:35 pm

24 DF Shaun Cummings-520k
28 MF Michail Antonio-180k
31 GK Mikkel Andersen-180k

=To release 880k

Can you confirm Afro>?

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:38 pm

I‘m not here to confirm anything

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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:38 pm

Afro you in a mood?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:40 pm

PM's for my team OK
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Post by Bull Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:40 pm

ok never mind Cancel that any way.

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:41 pm

No. Its. Not part of the task for me to confirm values
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Post by Trebs Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:47 pm

Stop mithering afro guys.

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Post by Afro Wed 11 Jul 2012, 9:53 pm

Gents, I'm off now. That is seriously the last help I offer. I'm now like Lord sugar and you are to interpret the task as y ou see best and if I disagree, you will have the chance on your submissions and in the boardroom to justify your choices.

Treat it as if you really were doing this task in real life.
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Post by Trebs Wed 11 Jul 2012, 10:44 pm

Alright Afro, whenever you're around next:

I'm away from Friday-Tuesday, so will absent for a large part of the task, don't know if that will be taking into account when deciding firings OK

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Post by Afro Thu 12 Jul 2012, 9:03 am

onlytreblewinners wrote:Alright Afro, whenever you're around next:

I'm away from Friday-Tuesday, so will absent for a large part of the task, don't know if that will be taking into account when deciding firings OK

Thanks for letting me know. I think nando is out too.

It will depend how much you impress me when you are around, and if that makes me want to see more of what you can do
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Post by Afro Thu 12 Jul 2012, 9:05 am

I have added a couple of things to the Task outline above to clarify from some of yesterdays questions
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Post by TwisT Fri 13 Jul 2012, 5:41 pm

Evening. Nad told me you need another team member

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Post by nadeem2099 Fri 13 Jul 2012, 6:18 pm

Afro assign twist and me to a team please.
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Post by Afro Fri 13 Jul 2012, 7:56 pm

Added to teams .See my post on the main league page too.

That's it for numbers otherwise I will struggle to think of enough tasks Laugh
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 16 Jul 2012, 3:16 pm

We will have our presentation up either later tonight, or early tomorrow morning OK
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Post by Afro Mon 16 Jul 2012, 8:57 pm

15 hours remaining...
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 16 Jul 2012, 9:00 pm

I hope for The A Team's sake they are doing this via PM Whistle
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 17 Jul 2012, 8:51 am

The Read Hot Chilli Peppers.

Task: It is preseason and the new rich owners of Reading have decided that Brian McDermott is not the man to take the club forward, and your team have been recruited to oversee the plans that will ultimately see them stay up in the Premier League.

You will find a suitable new manager and have been given £20m for buying players to achieve this target. The cost of player purchases will be those on http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk plus 20%. You can raise further funds through players sales – the price you will receive will be http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk less 20%. Loaning in a player will cost 20% of their TM value. A player who is not contracted, will be free to join you at no cost.

You will present your new manager and squad list (with details on all ins and outs), plus any other innovative ideas you have that will help the quest of staying up. This should be posted on this page no later than midday on Tuesday 17th July.

You will be judged on which team makes the best, most innovative and most realistic choices to keep Reading up.

How we took on the Task: We decided to take on the task of keeping Reading up by improving the squad they already had, and not overhauling too much, like Norwich and Swansea did the season before. We looked to bring in a mixture of Premier League experienced players, along with some more youthful players. We also looked to take advantage of the free transfer and loan markets, as these offered us good opportunities to pick up quality talent. We started off by gathering all the knowledge we had on Reading and garnering views from Reading fans. From this we learned that Reading played a high tempo 4-4-2 last season, where width was key. We decided that we would use this formation for home games, where we could employ it well. However we decided that this may not work as well away, so we decided that we needed to employ a 4-4-1-1/4-5-1 formation away from home. Next we gathered our original 25 man squad:

Our Original Reading Squad:

Spoiler:


And from this squad we also picked a starting XI, so we could see the improvements we have made:

Original Starting XI:

Spoiler:


Next on our agenda was picking a manager. We drew up a shortlist of suitable candidates and decided to choose this man for the following reasons

Manager: Alan Curbishley

Spoiler:


After we had chosen our manager and original starting 25 man squad we looked into who we needed and didn't need. This is a list of the players we decided to release.

Transfers Out:

Spoiler:



We decided to release these players because we felt they were not needed in our squad, and could be improved on. This also gave us more money to spend when bringing in players.

As stated earlier we looked to bring in players who had Premier League experience, but also that were realistically available to Reading. Here are the players we decided to bring in with reasons:

Transfers In:

Spoiler:


After all of this wheeling and dealing we were left with a budget of £4.48M. We decided to leave ourselves with some spare money, in case we needed to make extra signings in the January Transfer Window.

Now we had finished all of our transfers we had our final 25 man squad. We know we need a 25 man squad to comply with Premier League Regulations.

Final 25 Man Squad:

Spoiler:


Now we also decided you needed more than just a bunch of players to stay up. You also needed little things to be right, to aid you in your quest to stay up. So we came up with some ideas, to help us stay up.

Innovative ideas:

Spoiler:

Starting Home XI:

Spoiler:


Starting Away XI:

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And we all believe that this would be enough to keep Reading FC in the Premier League for the 2012/13 season.


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Post by Afro Tue 17 Jul 2012, 8:58 am

Cheers Olly.

I have taken a copy into my PMs, so feel free to remove it from the eyes of the other team
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Post by Afro Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:01 pm

Deadline has passed.

Please can The A-Team post their results in whatever state they are currently in...
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Post by Fernando Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:13 pm

where do i post them Afro?

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Post by Afro Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:15 pm

Stick them on here. I have the other teams.

Once I have yours I will read through and call the teams back to the boardroom (i.e. post my questions and comments on here)
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Post by Fernando Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:18 pm

Spoiler:

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Post by Afro Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:45 pm

Questions for Read Hot Chilli Peppers

1) Who was your project manager?

2) Was he a good project manager?

3) You have released players for free - what is the benefit of that? Could we not keep them outside of our 25 man squad?

4) We have released McLeary when we have only just signed him - should we not give him a chance to prove himself?

5) Why would Benayoun join Reading given his previous clubs and his history with West Ham?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 17 Jul 2012, 12:56 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:Questions for Read Hot Chilli Peppers

1) Who was your project manager?

2) Was he a good project manager?

3) You have released players for free - what is the benefit of that? Could we not keep them outside of our 25 man squad?

4) We have released McLeary when we have only just signed him - should we not give him a chance to prove himself?

5) Why would Benayoun join Reading given his previous clubs and his history with West Ham?

1. I was.

2. Not my place to comment as I am project manager.

3. The players we released for free we felt were never going to be of a good enough standard to play for Reading, in any competitions. Also if they weren't playing and were outside the 25 man squad, they are taking up valuable space in the wage budget.

4. We believe the old regime made a mistake in bringing in McLeary. We believed he was never Premier League standard, and we have bought in players in that position who are quite frankly better and have more potential.

5. Benayoun would join Reading based on being surplus to requirements at Chelsea, and on the fact we play a style of football that suits him, and West Ham don't. Also he is guaranteed first team football here.
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