Olympic Betting

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With the Olympics only a week away I thought I'd give a quick preview of the competition. I've always found there is quite a lot of value in betting on amateur tournaments, with bookies maybe not as clued up on the amateurs as they should be. All odds are with Paddy Power unless stated.

At Light Flyweight, I can't see anything other than a win for Zou Shiming. The Chinese boxer is the defending Champion and three time World Champion. He's 17/10 to defend his title and after watching him last year, I can't see past him barring injury. If you are looking for a dark horse, Mark Barriga of the Philippines, is 100/1 to win. Defeated Paddy Barnes at the Worlds before running into Shiming in the next round. Barnes is 20/1 with Skybet.

At Flyweight, my pick is Andrew Selby. He's the European champion and World silver Medallist. Home advantage counts for an awful lot in the amateurs and is a great price at 7/2. My dark Horse would be Conlan of Ireland. He's 14/1 with Skybet and really is improving with each bout. Lost by a point to Selby at the Worlds and has taken some serious scalps at international level. The Irish will have a big following as well, as this the closest thing to a home Olympics they are likely to face.

At Bantam, the Cuban Alvarez is the man to beat. He's 5/2 with Skybet, but I like Luke Campbell at 6/1 with PP. Massive at the weight and again has home advantage it's worth a £5 of any man's money. Nevin of Ireland is 8/1 with Skybet and he should be there or there about come medal time.

Can't see past Lomachenko at lightweight. He's 5/6 and for a good reason. Supposedly he's only lost once in his life, the 2007 World Amateur final, and has racked up over 300 wins. Interestingly, he lost to a Brazilian in the World Championships but the result was overturned in favour of Loma. The Brazilian is 100/1 with Skybet to win Gold, and that's worth a pound considering he gave Loma his closest fight. Josh Taylor is 50/1 but I can't see him getting near the final.

At Light-Welter, the World Champion is Lopes of Brazil. I wasn't to impressed with him in Baku though and my pick is Iglesias the Cuban. He's 10/1 with Skybet, which is the bet of the tournament in my eyes. He lost to the Ukrainian silver medallist on countback at Baku, which could have gone either way. He's also defeated Lopes the previous two times they have met. Tom Stalker is 4/1, which is a bit too short in my opinion.

At Welter, Shelestyuk (Ukr) and Sapiyev (Kaz) are the two favourites. I like Fred Evans at 16/1 though. Was KO'd in Baku in the QF's but is also the Current European Champion. Classy boxer and again has home advantage. Adam Nolan of Ireland is 40/1, and I can't see him troubling the top guys.

At Middle, I like the look of Attoev the Uzbek. He's a former World Champion, lost in the first round in Baku to the eventual silver medalist Murata of Japan by KO. He was leading at the point of the stoppage, and KO's don't happen all that open in the Amateurs. He's 7-1 with PP. O'Neill of Ireland will be there or there abouts and is 16/1. Ogogo is 25/1, but struggles with consistency and recently with injuries.

At 81kg, La Cruz the Cuban is the outstanding fighter. He's 13/8 with PP to add Olympic Gold to his World Championships Gold. Hooper of Australia is a decent price at 9/1, but he's a bit of loose cannon (Azania would love him). No GB or Irish fighter at the weight either.

Can't look past Usyk at Heavy, he's 9/4. Russo is the defending champ and current WSB champ, and is 5/1 shot. Again no GB or Irish competitors.

Joshua will go far at Super Heavy. It's one of the weaker divisions and he is improving all the time. He's 15/8. If defending Champ Roberto Camarelle can rekindle the form of old he's is a good price at 9/2, whilst Felix Savon's nephew, Erislandy, is 5/1.

In the Womens I can't see past the World Champs, Katie Taylor and Savannah Marshall, at lightweight and Middleweight respectively. It really is a toss up between Cancan and Nicola Adams at Flyweight.

I've gone for a quad of Zou, Lomachenko, La Cruz and Katie Taylor. It's currently paying 13/1, but I got it at 15/1. I've also got a few quid on Iglesias at Light-welter.


Edit, some prices have changed since the time of writing.

alma wrote:Good point. He thought he was funny though

very true. I bet all the boys at Tring cricket club are having a laugh at our expense now. Those jokers.

Yeah, can't be Coxy as Gordy actually writes complimentary things about Mike Tyson - not sure Coxy could ever be capable of that, even if it was for the sake of winding others up.

Gordy's views on Jones Jr are about as reasoned and sensible as Coxy's, mind you - the worrying aspect for Coxy was that he used to spout them without any hint of irony whatsoever and actually seemed to believe what he wrote!

By the way, we need more votes on the Hall of Fame if possible, fellas - if anyone's interested, get some votes cast, or else the process is in danger of fizzling out before completion.

alma wrote:I don't know enough about the old timers Chris, I'd just embarrass myself!

Not at all, Alma. The point is that there are going to be some fairly obscure names under discussion and no one person is going to know enough about each fighter to be able to vote without at least undertaking some kind of research. Box rec is often misused and much derided but it's pretty invaluable for the HOF thread and alongside a little research and reading through some of the posts by people who do have some additional knowledge about particular fighters, it is possible to contribute.

To be honest I feel the same as alma. The amount of knowledge you guys have regarding the older generation is quite astounding and I don't think I'd be able to add much more than a yes or no. An opinion that would be largely based on your posts alone as opposed to any thoughts of my own. Keep up the good work though and hopefully the input will pick up after the Olympics/when people return from holidays.

Why not do an article praising the computer programme that had Rocky beating Ali? Sure to get about 150 posts from Az naming various lightweights that would have beat Marciano inside two.

superflyweight wrote:Why not do an article praising the computer programme that had Rocky beating Ali? Sure to get about 150 posts from Az naming various lightweights that would have beat Marciano inside two.

Obviously with weight stips, the only logical way to compile a who beats who.

Rocky to come in at 147 against Manny is one of my favourite "Azisms".

Why couldn't it work the other way and have a stipulation on Manny to come in no less than 190lbs?

6oldenboy pressure is on you! I fallowed some of your tips. Ive lost selby but still have campbrell and joshua. Come on team gb!

Haha mate, my accy, which I thought was a cert, is bust. La Cruz was beaten by a Brazilian past night. Campbell hasn't shone thus far, should make the final, that Japanese fellow isn't very good. Alvarez and Nevin have looked in much better form.

If Joshua gets past the Kazakh, then I expect him to take Gold.

Did you not take Iglesias? He's looking good. Final should be between him and Berinchyk. Should be a cracker.

Mammadov needs to improve significantly if he is to progress, he's been very fortunate so far. He has his work cut out against Russo tonight.

I still rate him Mammadov, he's only 19, and is one for the future, if not now.

Is a Baku rematch on the cards?

Gordy wrote:. My first reaction was that Anthony Joshua did not beat the fellow he fought in the first round. I thought the Cuban landed more punches. But I read an interview with Lennox Lewis on the BBC and he said it was a close fight that could have gone either way. He knows a thing or two about boxing so on reflection I think the fight between Joshua and the Cuban could have been awarded to either and that many of the punches the Cuban threw were not the correct technique.

Are you seriously saying you are either that weak minded or obsessed with Lennox Lewis that your opinion on a fight can be changed solely because he saw it differently to you? I am a Froch fan and have heard him say he beat Kessler about 3000 times, he is yet to make me change my opinion that he lost.

Is Lennox Lewis gay? Sure I heard this a while back.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Is Lennox Lewis gay? Sure I heard this a while back.

That's an old story from years back. I think Riddick Bowe started it when they were feuding back in the early '90's. Throw enough mud and all that.

He is married with kids now for what that is worth, so I would assume not.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Is Lennox Lewis gay? Sure I heard this a while back.

That's an old story from years back. I think Riddick Bowe started it when they were feuding back in the early '90's. Throw enough mud and all that.

He is married with kids now for what that is worth, so I would assume not.

You could have let him down a bit more gently Tina

rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Is Lennox Lewis gay? Sure I heard this a while back.

That's an old story from years back. I think Riddick Bowe started it when they were feuding back in the early '90's. Throw enough mud and all that.

He is married with kids now for what that is worth, so I would assume not.

You could have let him down a bit more gently Tina

Elton John was married and has a child, so there remains a glimmer of hope.

alma wrote:

rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Is Lennox Lewis gay? Sure I heard this a while back.

That's an old story from years back. I think Riddick Bowe started it when they were feuding back in the early '90's. Throw enough mud and all that.

He is married with kids now for what that is worth, so I would assume not.

You could have let him down a bit more gently Tina

To be fair, some celebrities have been married etc and still 'come out' at a later date. Even Elton John was married and I think we all know what a friend of Dorothy's he is......

© Mind the Windows Tino (2012)

alma wrote:I'd just like to point out I think Elton John is and always has been, rubbish

It is a sacrifice we all have to make, alma.

alma wrote:Just seems to be me and you on here today Tina

Aye. Shame really as my Elton John song pun has gone unnoticed.

Always a pleasure talking to you though, alma.

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

alma wrote:Just seems to be me and you on here today Tina

Aye. Shame really as my Elton John song pun has gone unnoticed.

Always a pleasure talking to you though, alma.

I chose to ignore it. I was trying to think of a similar riposte, but the first song I thought of was 'Rocketman' and I didn't want to go there, quite frankly.

Not sure if your second sentence is sarcasm or not!!

I can't hold a candle in the wind to your puns.

Nope. You're a gentleman.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

rowley wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:Is Lennox Lewis gay? Sure I heard this a while back.

That's an old story from years back. I think Riddick Bowe started it when they were feuding back in the early '90's. Throw enough mud and all that.

He is married with kids now for what that is worth, so I would assume not.

You could have let him down a bit more gently Tina

Elton John was married and has a child, so there remains a glimmer of hope.

Freddie mercury was still married when he died. Used to live with the missus, a fella with a handle bar moustache and a couple of other guys who he obviously did.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

alma wrote:Just seems to be me and you on here today Tina

Aye. Shame really as my Elton John song pun has gone unnoticed.

Always a pleasure talking to you though, alma.

I chose to ignore it. I was trying to think of a similar riposte, but the first song I thought of was 'Rocketman' and I didn't want to go there, quite frankly.

Not sure if your second sentence is sarcasm or not!!

I can't hold a candle in the wind to your puns.

Nope. You're a gentleman.

Glad to see you both make up. In this case, sorry didn't seem to be the hardest word

Queen are the best British band in my opinion. Criminally underrated simply because he didn't wear his mac in the shower

Must be a relief to many that the rumours of big Lennox preferring trains to tunnels are just that - rumours.

I mean, can you imagine spilling a boxer of that size's pint all over him in the pub and having him threaten to give you a good 'fisting'!!??

alma, you're going to the boxing tomorrow aren't you?

Should be good, I hear Saturday night's alright for fighting.

seanmichaels wrote:Queen are the best British band in my opinion.

I have banned folk for less.

You'd much prefer the dull, self-pitying pennine-inspired offerings of some gritty northen band like The Verve I imagine, Jeff?

rowley wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:Queen are the best British band in my opinion.

I have banned folk for less.

I forgot how unhappy Queen made you, jeff. Although I guess thats why they call it the blues.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

rowley wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:Queen are the best British band in my opinion.

I have banned folk for less.

I forgot how unhappy Queen made you, jeff. Although I guess thats why they call it the blues.

Not many people joining in with your puns Tino. But nice to see that you're still standing.

Il Gialloblu wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

rowley wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:Queen are the best British band in my opinion.

I have banned folk for less.

I forgot how unhappy Queen made you, jeff. Although I guess thats why they call it the blues.

Not many people joining in with your puns Tino. But nice to see that you're still standing.

Thanks Gia. I assumed you might help out actually, there is something about the way you look tonight.

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:alma, you're going to the boxing tomorrow aren't you?

Should be good, I hear Saturday night's alright for fighting.

Sunday actually. Sorry if I've been going on about it, but I don't have much to look forward to at the moment!

No bother, alma. It was just a segue to get my pun in. I am persisting with them even if no-one else is, Although it Ain't Gonna be Easy.

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:alma, you're going to the boxing tomorrow aren't you?

Should be good, I hear Saturday night's alright for fighting.

Sunday actually. Sorry if I've been going on about it, but I don't have much to look forward to at the moment!

Please don't feel as if you need to apologise, Alma. Sometimes sorry seems to be the hardest word.

88Chris05 wrote:

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:alma, you're going to the boxing tomorrow aren't you?

Should be good, I hear Saturday night's alright for fighting.

Sunday actually. Sorry if I've been going on about it, but I don't have much to look forward to at the moment!

Please don't feel as if you need to apologise, Alma. Sometimes sorry seems to be the hardest word.

Knew I could drag you in, Chris. Don't go breaking my heart and leave now though.

88Chris05 wrote:

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:alma, you're going to the boxing tomorrow aren't you?

Should be good, I hear Saturday night's alright for fighting.

Sunday actually. Sorry if I've been going on about it, but I don't have much to look forward to at the moment!

Please don't feel as if you need to apologise, Alma. Sometimes sorry seems to be the hardest word.

Tino used that one earlier. Does he keep the credit or is it now your song...

Il Gialloblu wrote:

88Chris05 wrote:

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:alma, you're going to the boxing tomorrow aren't you?

Should be good, I hear Saturday night's alright for fighting.

Sunday actually. Sorry if I've been going on about it, but I don't have much to look forward to at the moment!

Please don't feel as if you need to apologise, Alma. Sometimes sorry seems to be the hardest word.

Tino used that one earlier. Does he keep the credit or is it now your song...

It's no bother, Gia. It is Friday and life is good. In fact, can you feel the love tonight?

88Chris05 wrote:You'd much prefer the dull, self-pitying pennine-inspired offerings of some gritty northen band like The Verve I imagine, Jeff?

Never overly bothered by the Verve, Richard Ashcroft is too up his own backside, now if you're going to do dour northern miserabalism you'd not go far wrong with a bit of I am Kloot

rowley wrote:

88Chris05 wrote:You'd much prefer the dull, self-pitying pennine-inspired offerings of some gritty northen band like The Verve I imagine, Jeff?

Never overly bothered by the Verve, Richard Ashcroft is too up his own backside, now if you're going to do dour northern miserabalism you'd not go far wrong with a bit of I am Kloot

Whats the weather like in Rotherham, jeff? It is lovely dahn sarf today. I am sitting here thinking 'don't let the sun go down on me'.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

Il Gialloblu wrote:

88Chris05 wrote:

alma wrote:

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:alma, you're going to the boxing tomorrow aren't you?

Should be good, I hear Saturday night's alright for fighting.

Sunday actually. Sorry if I've been going on about it, but I don't have much to look forward to at the moment!

Please don't feel as if you need to apologise, Alma. Sometimes sorry seems to be the hardest word.

Tino used that one earlier. Does he keep the credit or is it now your song...

It's no bother, Gia. It is Friday and life is good. In fact, can you feel the love tonight?

Aye, it's very much Tino who is driving the Elton pun train - the rest of us are just his Passengers.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:

rowley wrote:

88Chris05 wrote:You'd much prefer the dull, self-pitying pennine-inspired offerings of some gritty northen band like The Verve I imagine, Jeff?

Never overly bothered by the Verve, Richard Ashcroft is too up his own backside, now if you're going to do dour northern miserabalism you'd not go far wrong with a bit of I am Kloot

Whats the weather like in Rotherham, jeff? It is lovely dahn sarf today. I am sitting here thinking 'don't let the sun go down on me'.

It's bound to come down in time.

There really are some sad songs been quoted now.

You are very dedicated when it comes to puns though, Tino. I'm beginning to think it must be your True Love.

88Chris05 wrote:You are very dedicated when it comes to puns though, Tino. I'm beginning to think it must be your True Love.

Dancing is my true love, Chris. Although I am not a big chap, I am more of a tiny dancer.

88Chris05 wrote:

Aye, it's very much Tino who is driving the Elton pun train - the rest of us are just his Passengers.

True that mate. And we all know this train don't stop there anymore.

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:There really are some sad songs been quoted now.

Agreed. I'm going to bite my lip, get up and dance.

I am Kloot? I can hear the sounds of barrels being scraped.

Everyone's entitled to their opinions, alma. It's all part of the circle of life.

Thank god you've arrived, superfly. At least you'll stand by me.

You know what they say, Tina - I've got healing hands.

Looks like Tino and Superfly are stroking each other's ego again. Everyone, Are You ready for Love?

Easy Chris. You're only a stones throw from hurtin'

Looks like Tino and Superfly are stroking each other's ego again. Everyone, Are You ready for Love? .

Oooh, get her. The bitch is back.

Seriously, this forum is supposed to be about boxing, not Elton John puns.

I have to say, I've been disappointed with the scoring in the Olympic boxing. Ruined it a bit for me. I think I'd prefer to go and see which Tiny Dancer wins the gold medal in the Women's Rhythmic Gymnastics!

Oh, c'mon!

There is a worrying amount of Elton John knowledge on this thread.