IRFU central contracts

by Portnoy Tue 24 Jul 2012, 10:33 am

First topic message reminder :

I'm a big fan of the central contract system (not a good time for an Englishman as his cricket team has been royally sha88ed by Biltog's lot). But I went on to the IRFU site http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/search.php and did a search for them as there was no obvious link elsewhere on the site.

No results found.

was the response.

Who's actually centrally-contracted for Ireland?

by **rodders** Fri 27 Jul 2012, 12:59 pm

Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?! Shocked

by Sin é Fri 27 Jul 2012, 1:01 pm

Thomond wrote:Thank Christ. Would be a good move for him financially and would allow us fast track JJ would have liked ROG there to help him (don't know how muc hof a menotr ROG would be) but interesting if it happens but I wouldn't be especting it.

It would be a very poor move for him financially unless he could come back and finish his career here.

Still, its interesting that Jake White thinks ROG is still up to Super Rugby !

by Sin é Fri 27 Jul 2012, 1:04 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:How long is christian leahlifano out for? I doubt ROG would start ahead of him

November-December (in time for next season).

by LeinsterFan4life Fri 27 Jul 2012, 1:14 pm

Sin é wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:How long is christian leahlifano out for? I doubt ROG would start ahead of him

November-December (in time for next season).

If thats the case i doubt he'll leave munster. He would hardily get any gametime

by Sin é Fri 27 Jul 2012, 1:17 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Sin é wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:How long is christian leahlifano out for? I doubt ROG would start ahead of him

November-December (in time for next season).
If thats the case i doubt he'll leave munster. He would hardily get any gametime

According to some here, he won't be getting any game time for Munster (or at least they are praying for that).

I doubt if the Brumbies would be that interested in paying a shed load of cash for ROG to sit on the bench for them!

by Mickado Fri 27 Jul 2012, 1:47 pm

Tough times at the Brumbies lads.

by Gibson Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:17 pm

rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Could be a Future Irish and Lions Captain.

by Sin é Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:21 pm

Gibson wrote:
rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Its all about attack in Super Rugby, Gibbo, not about tackling. Wink

by Gibson Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:24 pm

Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Its all about attack in Super Rugby, Gibbo, not about tackling.

Fair enuf Sin, I stand corrected. Sexton had better learn to attack so. guinness

by LeinsterFan4life Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:27 pm

Gibson wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Its all about attack in Super Rugby, Gibbo, not about tackling.

Fair enuf Sin, I stand corrected. Sexton had better learn to attack so.

Do you think ROG could give him a few tips?

by **Notch** Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:31 pm

HammerofThunor wrote:It's been suggested in the past (no actual numbers or references given) that the provinces are on about the same as the English cap. Would this be including the central contracts? If not they're more like the French levels (not the crazy ass top levels) than the English.

No, not including central contracts as I understand it. Hence my opposition to scrapping them because that would be out of our financial league to pay the salaries of internationals as well.

by **Notch** Fri 27 Jul 2012, 2:47 pm

Sin é wrote:
Big name hunting
While the Brumbies have performed brilliantly with a squad of no-names, they are looking at some prominent identities to bolster their ranks. Their pursuit of David Pocock continues, with the Wallabies captain telling the Force to give him some space until the end of the season. We've also been told the [b]Brumbies have made ''an audacious approach'' for Irish utility Ronan O'Gara.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/passing-comment-sparks-more-unrest-20120712-21yzd.html#ixzz21p1wr6So

That would be great news for O'Gara, a nice way to see out his career and it would give a younger man a chance to stake a claim. It would be bad news for Munster. No doubt ROG is still a better 10 than JJ and Keatley but they need to take the plunge and look long-term sooner or later.

It might be good for Munster long term.

by Gibson Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:02 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Gibson wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Its all about attack in Super Rugby, Gibbo, not about tackling.

Fair enuf Sin, I stand corrected. Sexton had better learn to attack so.
Do you think ROG could give him a few tips?

He could teach him how to fall over heavily, Fan. And give him a Master Class in Petulance.

Dunno bud.

by Sin é Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:10 pm

Gibson wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Gibson wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Its all about attack in Super Rugby, Gibbo, not about tackling.

Fair enuf Sin, I stand corrected. Sexton had better learn to attack so.
Do you think ROG could give him a few tips?

He could teach him how to fall over heavily, Fan. And give him a Master Class in Petulance.

Dunno bud.

There is plenty of evidence around to suggest that Sexton has been giving O'Gara master classes in petulence. I don't think BOD had ever to tell O'Gara to behave on the pitch.

by Feckless Rogue Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:26 pm

Spoiler:

by Gibson Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:37 pm

Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Gibson wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Its all about attack in Super Rugby, Gibbo, not about tackling.

Fair enuf Sin, I stand corrected. Sexton had better learn to attack so.
Do you think ROG could give him a few tips?

He could teach him how to fall over heavily, Fan. And give him a Master Class in Petulance.

Dunno bud.

There is plenty of evidence around to suggest that Sexton has been giving O'Gara master classes in petulence. I don't think BOD had ever to tell O'Gara to behave on the pitch.

He should have. Might have made him a decent player.

I would never mix-up Confidence with Petulance, when it comes to my Jonny. He's a good, honest, down-to-Earth - genius. He just took time to learn, he had to outdo ROG in the head-games - as well as on the pitch and the position was his. Et voila.

by Gibson Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:41 pm

Feckless Rogue wrote:
Spoiler:

Just a Friday laff with my bud Sin E. zen

by Sin é Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:44 pm

Gibson wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
LeinsterFan4life wrote:
Gibson wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
rodders wrote:Irish Utility?! How many positions do they think ROG can play?!

Just the 2. FH and punchbag.

Great to have a 10 that can tackle even the biggest of em now. Best 10 in the NH. Only one better than him in the SH and World right now. And he gave him a run for his money in the 2nd Test.

Its all about attack in Super Rugby, Gibbo, not about tackling.

Fair enuf Sin, I stand corrected. Sexton had better learn to attack so.
Do you think ROG could give him a few tips?

He could teach him how to fall over heavily, Fan. And give him a Master Class in Petulance.

Dunno bud.

There is plenty of evidence around to suggest that Sexton has been giving O'Gara master classes in petulence. I don't think BOD had ever to tell O'Gara to behave on the pitch.

He should have. Might have made him a decent player.

I would never mix-up Confidence with Petulance, when it comes to my Jonny. He's a good, honest, down-to-Earth - genius. He just took time to learn, he had to outdo ROG in the head-games - as well as on the pitch and the position was his. Et voila.

I'm referring to the last test in particular where BOD had to tell him to stop complaining because he was moved to 12. Sexton is not a team player (and that comes from his lack of confidence from his failure to impose himself on a game in the way that ROG has done).

Heislip's confidence was knocked by the red card. Probably thought that this was his chance to show his credentials (in the absence of POC) for the Irish captaincy. It all went horribly wrong for him and he hasn't been the same since.

by Gibson Fri 27 Jul 2012, 3:59 pm

Spoiler:

All will change when Elmer goes back to school to learn tactics. ROG and old Munster, are the limited, boring, past. Sexton has the lot for the modern game. Just needs a decent coach to utilise it properly.

by Rory_Gallagher Fri 27 Jul 2012, 5:47 pm

Sin é wrote:

I'm referring to the last test in particular where BOD had to tell him to stop complaining because he was moved to 12. Sexton is not a team player (and that comes from his lack of confidence from his failure to impose himself on a game in the way that ROG has done).

Heislip's confidence was knocked by the red card. Probably thought that this was his chance to show his credentials (in the absence of POC) for the Irish captaincy. It all went horribly wrong for him and he hasn't been the same since.

Sin, this is just total rubbish. You don't know what BOD said to Sexton, you are basing this off the fact that the NZ commentators said Sexton didn't look too happy about moving (he seemed to move to 13 btw) and they also said he had reason to be, since he was playing so well. Then we see BOD and Sexton shouting to each other across the pitch, probably discussing tactics. BOD might have just been as unhappy about the change as Sexton. Neither of us know what was said, and Sexton should not have had to move. End of.

Once again you are letting your personal, unfounded hated on Sexton shine through for all to see. If ROG was asked to come on and play at 15 or something I would love to see how ROG reacts, how his team mates react, and the excuses you would come off with if that were to happen.

by red_stag Fri 27 Jul 2012, 6:57 pm

Ah Rory,

"End Of"

Laugh

Don't you know, if you have to use term then you've automatically lost the arguement.

606V2 By-Laws.

Other game over statements include "simples" or "FACT!"

Sorry pal. Sin É has claimed this bout.

by Rory_Gallagher Fri 27 Jul 2012, 7:31 pm

I guess I would just like to see the "end of" Sin's little vendetta against Sexton. He is simply making things up or twisting the truth to have another dig. I would like him to point out to me exactly when BOD had to tell Sexton "how to behave", otherwise he should stop bringing up a scenario that might not have even happened. Rolling Eyes

by eirebilly Fri 27 Jul 2012, 8:37 pm

Gibson wrote:

He should have. Might have made him a decent player.

I would never mix-up Confidence with Petulance, when it comes to my Jonny. He's a good, honest, down-to-Earth - genius. He just took time to learn, he had to outdo ROG in the head-games - as well as on the pitch and the position was his. Et voila.

Might have made ROG a decent player?

Would you really want BOD to talk to Ronan on the pitch, so that Ronan's standards could be lowered to that of only being decent? Wink

by Rava Fri 27 Jul 2012, 9:39 pm

I just imagine Sin e sitting back every night with a nice glass of vin rouge and a smug smile on his face. After having frustrated the feic out of most of his countrymen RedWine

by Gibson Fri 27 Jul 2012, 10:01 pm

Rava wrote:I just imagine Sin e sitting back every night with a nice glass of vin rouge and a smug smile on his face. After having frustrated the feic out of most of his countrymen

He learned from the Master. guinness

by Thomond Fri 27 Jul 2012, 11:24 pm

Gibbo, I know/think you're joking but to say ROG was a poor attacker and wasn't a great player is total bollix. Last few years he has been poor but to say he wasn't is horlicks. Also the whole Kidney plays the same rugby with Irrealand as he does with Ireland is the biggest load of bull I have ever heard (you're not the only one saying it to be fair it's more of a general rant)

by **rodders** Fri 27 Jul 2012, 11:48 pm

Gibson wrote:
Rava wrote:I just imagine Sin e sitting back every night with a nice glass of vin rouge and a smug smile on his face. After having frustrated the feic out of most of his countrymen

He learned from the Master.

Sin e

by asoreleftshoulder Sat 28 Jul 2012, 11:21 am

Thomond wrote:Gibbo, I know/think you're joking but to say ROG was a poor attacker and wasn't a great player is total bollix. Last few years he has been poor but to say he wasn't is horlicks. Also the whole Kidney plays the same rugby with Irrealand as he does with Ireland is the biggest load of bull I have ever heard (you're not the only one saying it to be fair it's more of a general rant)

Unfortunately Sin é drags people down to his level

by Gibson Sat 28 Jul 2012, 3:16 pm

asoreleftshoulder wrote:
Thomond wrote:Gibbo, I know/think you're joking but to say ROG was a poor attacker and wasn't a great player is total bollix. Last few years he has been poor but to say he wasn't is horlicks. Also the whole Kidney plays the same rugby with Irrealand as he does with Ireland is the biggest load of bull I have ever heard (you're not the only one saying it to be fair it's more of a general rant)

Unfortunately Sin é drags people down to his level

Only differ being, I said it when he was appointed.

by Thomond Sat 28 Jul 2012, 3:21 pm

Kidney has been shoite for us no denying that but comparing Musnter's style under Deccie to Ireland's is nonsene.

by Sin é Sat 28 Jul 2012, 3:24 pm

Looks like White got Pocock but failed to get O'Gara Smile

I suppose pulling off 1 out of 2 big signings isn't bad.

But White did rule out signing Ireland flyhalf Ronan O'Gara, who had been linked with the Brumbies."

Sorry for ruining your Saturdays Crying or Very sad

by Sin é Sat 28 Jul 2012, 3:32 pm

Gibson wrote:
Rava wrote:I just imagine Sin e sitting back every night with a nice glass of vin rouge and a smug smile on his face. After having frustrated the feic out of most of his countrymen

He learned from the Master.

Gibbo, you assemble very good ammunition to throw
(' Hug

')

by asoreleftshoulder Sat 28 Jul 2012, 3:44 pm

Sin é wrote:Looks like White got Pocock but didn't want to get O'Gara

Fixed that for you

by Gibson Sat 28 Jul 2012, 4:17 pm

Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
Rava wrote:I just imagine Sin e sitting back every night with a nice glass of vin rouge and a smug smile on his face. After having frustrated the feic out of most of his countrymen

He learned from the Master.

Gibbo, you assemble very good ammunition to throw
('')

I like to play, Sin. Great thing about opinions is, you can never really lose.
But you know that too. As long as facts dont cloud the fiction guinness

by eirebilly Sat 28 Jul 2012, 9:03 pm

Gibson wrote:

I like to play, Sin. Great thing about opinions is, you can never really lose.
But you know that too. As long as facts dont cloud the fiction

Good thing Sexton is not fiction outside of Leinster then Wink

by Sin é Sat 28 Jul 2012, 9:48 pm

Gibson wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Gibson wrote:
Rava wrote:I just imagine Sin e sitting back every night with a nice glass of vin rouge and a smug smile on his face. After having frustrated the feic out of most of his countrymen

He learned from the Master.

Gibbo, you assemble very good ammunition to throw
('')

I like to play, Sin. Great thing about opinions is, you can never really lose.
But you know that too. As long as facts dont cloud the fiction

You lost big time with your advocacy of Shane Jennings as being the best thing since the slice pan Smile

by Gibson Sun 29 Jul 2012, 7:42 am

I didnt lose. Kidney didn't pick him in the 1st place and Ireland lost out. Not the best thing since sliced-bread. But, he was best fit for that backrow at the RWC. SOB is doing well now though.

Are you starting to get how this game works now, bud?

Good mornin to ya btw. coffee

by Gibson Sun 29 Jul 2012, 7:46 am

eirebilly wrote:
Gibson wrote:

I like to play, Sin. Great thing about opinions is, you can never really lose.
But you know that too. As long as facts dont cloud the fiction

Good thing Sexton is not fiction outside of Leinster then

And you can feic off as well Billser. kiss

by eirebilly Sun 29 Jul 2012, 5:02 pm

Gibson wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
Gibson wrote:

I like to play, Sin. Great thing about opinions is, you can never really lose.
But you know that too. As long as facts dont cloud the fiction

Good thing Sexton is not fiction outside of Leinster then

And you can feic off as well Billser.

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