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Post by Hero Fri 03 Aug 2012, 4:04 pm

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Please can anyone who is in the realistic league and can see this please post below!!

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Post by Hero Mon 27 Aug 2012, 11:16 pm

I'd say yes on Moses, Wigan chairman is always happy to sell a player for a certain fee and Elmo's Fulham is a contender for Europe.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 27 Aug 2012, 11:17 pm

I would say yes to Moses. The cash is there, and I think he would go to Fulham.

I will put up definate answers tomorrow, or you can do it now GSC
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Post by Marky Mon 27 Aug 2012, 11:36 pm

Seriously? Moses would join Fulham in this league despite joining Chelsea in RL, yet Mirallas wouldn't join Stoke because he's joined Everton in RL?

Absolute joke.

If anyone can truly justify how Fulham are closer to Chelsea than Stoke are to Everton then I'll back down, if not I might as well quit.

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Post by Hero Mon 27 Aug 2012, 11:44 pm

I can't say on yours Marky, from what I've read on Mirallas is that it seems the opposite, he turned down the bigger club to guarantee more game time.

Moses though it's shown in RL that if Dave Whelan gets an offer he's happy with then the player goes and Fulham in this league are better than the one in RL.

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Post by Marky Mon 27 Aug 2012, 11:48 pm

If Mirallas turned down Arsenal for Everton to get more gametime, why wouldn't he turn down Arsenal for Stoke to get more game time (considering Everton haven't put a bid in in this league)?

I'm all for Moses to Fulham, I just think Mirallas should currently be a Stoke player on here. And there has been no justifyable reason as to why not IMO.

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Post by Marky Mon 27 Aug 2012, 11:51 pm

And Benzema was a yes? This is by a mile, the most unrealistic realistic league ever.

Before anyone mentions Stoke signing Ashley Young, I'm referring to Foreign Transfers.

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Post by Marky Tue 28 Aug 2012, 12:04 am

Benzema, Higuain, Di Maria, Montolivo and Llorente. All moved to the "realistic" Premier League. But Kevin Mirallas joining Stoke over Everton? Madness!

Genuinely, this Mirallas thing has annoyed me. Either reconsider his transfer or I will quit. Call it toys out of the pram, I don't care. Its stupid.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 12:21 am

Put it up again tomorrow and I will reconsider. I'm not in the mood now. Night.
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Post by Trebs Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:55 am

Benzema maybe should have been a bit more, but others agreed with it
Higuain has been linked to Chelsea on a number of occasions in the past
Di Maria was linked with Chelsea in the summer
Montolivo didn't have a club on here and signed for Liverpool
Llorente's not signing a new contract with his club and wants a move

I think it's a case of too many cooks on foreign transfers. I think it should be down to maybe two people who can do it properly and daily, as it's been all over the place at the moment.

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Post by Marky Tue 28 Aug 2012, 9:52 am

onlytreblewinners wrote:Benzema maybe should have been a bit more, but others agreed with it
Higuain has been linked to Chelsea on a number of occasions in the past
Di Maria was linked with Chelsea in the summer
Montolivo didn't have a club on here and signed for Liverpool
Llorente's not signing a new contract with his club and wants a move

If I was answering these today;
Benzema - No, he wouldn't leave Real Madrid as he's in the first XI
Higuain - No, same as Simon Kjaer, until he actually leaves he shouldn't move
Di Maria - No, he wouldn't leave Real Madrid as he's in the first XI
Montolivo - No, he's joined AC Milan in RL, wouldn't leave Italy to go to Liverpool
Llorente - No, see Higuain.


onlytreblewinners wrote:I think it's a case of too many cooks on foreign transfers. I think it should be down to maybe two people who can do it properly and daily, as it's been all over the place at the moment.

I think its a case of TSJ being put in charge and not sticking around.

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Post by Marky Tue 28 Aug 2012, 9:54 am

My point is that all these get accepted when they arguably shouldn't, yet transfers like Mirallas and Kjaer get rejected.

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Post by Trebs Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:55 am

I am going to completely step down from all running duties. When the second season starts, I will do the European cups if you want. Other than that I want to have no responsibilities OK

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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 4:42 pm

Lets compromise then.

Mirallas goes through, 10m buyout fee for a club in Europe should Stoke not end up in Europe at the end of the season?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 4:47 pm

Trebs if you could run the European Cups that would be great, because I have no idea how I would work it OK

GSC, I like that idea.
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Post by Trebs Tue 28 Aug 2012, 4:52 pm

Yep, I think top 8 shouldn't be in FA Cup though as it's easier to run that way and then teams like West Ham can win something to help them with foreign transfers.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 4:54 pm

I will mull it over.
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Post by Marky Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:37 pm

GSC wrote:Lets compromise then.

Mirallas goes through, 10m buyout fee for a club in Europe should Stoke not end up in Europe at the end of the season?

Deal. Can I confirm it?

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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:38 pm

Fine
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Post by Trebs Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:41 pm

Hummels - No. In the article Bull quoted himself, it says:
"We expect Kagawa to go, but no amount of money will persuade us to sell the others [Lewandowski and Hummels]."

Dede - ??

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Post by Marky Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:45 pm

I'm just going to quickly do today's bid.

It's Maurice Edu, for the £500k fee quoted in the Mirror yesterday, as he's moving to Stoke in real life.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:45 pm

Hummels - No. No way in hell Dortmund sell him as the article and Trebs say.
Dede - No. He has been linked with the likes of AC Milan and Man City so I don't think he would go to West Ham if I am honest.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3276/serie-a/2012/06/04/3147555/ac-milan-keeping-tabs-on-dede-report

http://footylatest.com/man-city-set-their-sights-on-highly-rated-brazilian-defender/29494
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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:48 pm

Fine by me Olly
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Post by Marky Tue 28 Aug 2012, 8:56 pm

Hummels - No, very unlikely to leave Dortmund
Dede - Sorry but no, while you could quote Tevez and Mascherano leaving for West Ham, Dede has been linked with bigger and better clubs.

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Post by Trebs Tue 28 Aug 2012, 9:13 pm

Javi Martinez has a £31.7m release clause OK

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2194620/Javi-Martinez-cost-Manchester-City-31-7m.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 10:54 pm

Edu Yes
Hummels No
Dede No
Soldado No - Signed a new contract and says he intends to honour it
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Post by Marky Tue 28 Aug 2012, 10:57 pm

Looks fair. I'd be inclined to say Yes to Soldado but if he's said he's staying put then fair enough.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 10:57 pm

I am with GSC on those. There was no bid for Martinez was there Trebs?
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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 10:58 pm

There was but he made 2 then deleted Martinez
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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 10:59 pm

http://www.thesportreview.com/tsr/2012/08/tottenham-transfer-target-roberto-soldado-valencia/

From 2 weeks ago.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:00 pm

Oh right. I am happy with those 4 answers, and everyone else seems to be.

Just say the reasons for

Hummels - No cos Dortmund won't sell.
Dede - Is off to a bigger clubs like AC Milan.
Soldado - No cos what GSC said
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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:05 pm

I'd be inclined to say yes to 30m for Hummels. Massive amount of money for a CB
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:08 pm

It is a tough one ain't it. I'll tell Bull to put the offer in, gives us a day to decide.

Also has the box been turned off?
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Post by GSC Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:09 pm

Yep
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue 28 Aug 2012, 11:12 pm

Ok I am off then. Not around much tomorrow but will be on the hunt for a CB, seeming as I sold two to foreign offers.

Anybody got any going before I go?
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Post by GSC Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:00 pm

Hummels - Yes, 30m is a ton of cash for a CB.
Fabrice- Yes, I'm not fussed enough over him to have any complaints.
Garcia- Yes, links match and he'd go Liverpool.
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Post by Trebs Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:03 pm

I had a bid rejected for Javi Garcia early on Whistle

Hummels - No.

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Post by GSC Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:05 pm

That was TSJ not me.

Also he has a link acknowledging a 24m release clause
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Post by Trebs Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:07 pm

I know, I'm just saying if you want it to be consistent like it should be then it should be a no. I personally think it should be a yes though, if that makes sense.

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Post by GSC Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:08 pm

Aye, I get your point, but we can't really say no given the links. Call it new evidence I guess
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Post by GSC Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:13 pm

Also yours was 14m, not his release clause of 24m I think
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Post by Trebs Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:18 pm

Yeah it wasn't 24m. But if it's not enough, the correct price is meant to be posted. TSJ was saying no at any price.

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Post by GSC Wed 29 Aug 2012, 3:21 pm

Whistle

Ah well shout at TSJ next time you see him lol. I think I still lean to yes
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Post by Trebs Wed 29 Aug 2012, 7:05 pm

No reply from cherries.

I think Hodgey should be brought in.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 29 Aug 2012, 7:53 pm

I am going to see if he posts tactics in Euro Div or not. If not he aint gonna be around, so we can then bring in Hodgey if of course he wants to as well
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Post by Fernando Wed 29 Aug 2012, 8:28 pm

Cherry said he was going to be away 2-3 weeks so due back soon i think OK

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Post by Marky Wed 29 Aug 2012, 9:11 pm

Granero - No. Not that he wouldn't go to Swansea over QPR, just that I'd say wait until he actually moves to QPha, as I'm skeptical he's actually going. If he moves, bid again and it'd be a yes.

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Post by GSC Wed 29 Aug 2012, 9:24 pm

Fair enough, the other 3
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Post by Marky Wed 29 Aug 2012, 9:31 pm

Other three all yes. Hummels and Garcia due to the silly money involved, and Fabrice as I've never heard of him, he can't be that good Wink

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Post by GSC Wed 29 Aug 2012, 9:34 pm

Thats my reasoning lol.

I'll wait for Ollys opinions if they're forthcoming then psot them.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 29 Aug 2012, 9:40 pm

I would agree with Marky. Yes to all of them purely because Hummels and Garcia is money the clubs simply wouldnt refuse. But Granero until he actually moves is a no
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