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Post by Guest Sat 18 Aug 2012, 1:05 pm

First topic message reminder :

The big one is about to begin once again lads. Hopefully week 1 will bring a lot of goals, controversy and maybe even a shock!

God I've missed Jeff Stelling and the boys!

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Post by Kay Fabe Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:55 am

Man Utd 2 Arsenal 0
Spurs 2 Wigan 1
Swansea 1 Chelsea 3
Sunderland 1 A Villa 0
Fulham 1 Everton 2
Norwich 1 Stoke 1
West Ham 1 Man City 2

Sunday:

QPR 2 Reading 0
Liverpool 1 Newcastle 2

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West Brom 2 Southampton 1

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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 12:48 pm

RVP capitalises on some suspect defending to give United a 1-0 lead
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 12:48 pm

Fair play he didnt celebrate
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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 12:53 pm

Classy stuff there from RVP.

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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 12:55 pm

Good spell of possession from Arsenal.
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Post by John Cregan Sat 03 Nov 2012, 12:57 pm

The idiots booing Van Persie epitomise the stereotype of the neanderthal, dumb, football supporter...................what an example these fools are sending to kids out there.

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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 12:57 pm

Giroud really is a waste. Why not play Walcott or Podolski through the middle and have Rio/Evans on their heels.
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 12:58 pm

John Cregan wrote:The idiots booing Van Persie epitomise the stereotype of the neanderthal, dumb, football supporter...................what an example these fools are sending to kids out there.

They're supposed to cheer a guy who basically maneuvered the club into selling him to their big rivals?

Kris Commons is a ****** I regret nothing
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:00 pm

GSC wrote:Giroud really is a waste. Why not play Walcott or Podolski through the middle and have Rio/Evans on their heels.

He wouldnt be a waste if Arsenal actually played to his strengths and got crosses in. His movement in the box is really good but they never cross the ball!!!!!!!
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:00 pm

Hes a donkey
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:01 pm

The bigger question is why is Aaron Ramsey playing right wing?
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:01 pm

Ball retention
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:03 pm

Because Arteta, Wilshere and Cazorla can't do that well enough anyways???
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:04 pm

Because the best way to defend is to hold the ball?
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:06 pm

Sorry but in the formation Arsenal use put a proper winger out there to give you some edge and directness in the final third
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:07 pm

Especially considering how dump Patrice Evra is now
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:08 pm

Maybe Wenger plans to unleash a jaded Walcott at a tired Evra.

Ramsey offers protection.
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:09 pm

Santos is crap
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:10 pm

GSC wrote:Maybe Wenger plans to unleash a jaded Walcott at a tired Evra.

Ramsey offers protection.

It'll be good if they unleash him when they are already losing by god knows how many.

Valencia against Santos is just such a mismatch
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:11 pm

And you go into a game expecting to be losing heavily in the 2nd half.

That may be Norwich's plan Olly, but other teams think positively
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:13 pm

Might need to go Vermaelen at LB, Kos at CB in the 2nd.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:14 pm

GSC wrote:And you go into a game expecting to be losing heavily in the 2nd half.

That may be Norwich's plan Olly, but other teams think positively

Well clearly not. But it's obvious that if you put Walcott/Arshavin up against Evra they will tear him apart. He is proper dump.
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:14 pm

Arshavin is also proper dump
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:16 pm

Cazorla hasn't been so good the last couple of games. Maybe teams are working out how to nullify him?
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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:18 pm

We all have our off days Olly.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:20 pm

Well he was non exsistant against us and Schalke and aint done much so far today.

Arsenal really look toothless so far
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:30 pm

Penalty Utd. Handball by Cazorla
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:31 pm

Hahahahahahahaha

Why is Van Persie not taking that lol
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Post by GSC Sat 03 Nov 2012, 1:40 pm

Arsenal make it to HT only 1-0 down. Time for Walcott and the Ox
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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 2:09 pm

And that is that.

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Post by Ent Sat 03 Nov 2012, 3:45 pm

Not sure I've ever seen a poorer arsenal side, they were toothless in attack and full of mistakes at the back.

Wengers team selections and subs left a lot o be desired.

Also their fans were awful towards rvp.

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 3:54 pm

West ham vs Man city today..

sadly i can see West ham losing 2-0 today Sad shame really as a win would put us 5th i believe

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 4:07 pm

I don't think any team looks forward to playing an Allardyce side and Man City will be no exception. If City play anything like they have in their last two matches then West Ham have a chance of getting something. Be positive CF!

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 03 Nov 2012, 4:54 pm

I am loving this season..

Our teams might look rubbish in europe- but oh my- its been some quality entertainment.

I am backing west ham myself!

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 4:58 pm

Bit of a gap opening up at the bottom. 5 points between 17th and 18th. A draw in the QPR/Reading match tomorrow does neither team any favours. All of a sudden Norwich are up to 15th place. What a difference a fortnight makes.

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 5:44 pm

FreekShow wrote:I don't think any team looks forward to playing an Allardyce side and Man City will be no exception. If City play anything like they have in their last two matches then West Ham have a chance of getting something. Be positive CF!

i hope so mate...we have got to nearly 15mins still 0-0 Wink

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 6:35 pm

FreekShow wrote:Bit of a gap opening up at the bottom. 5 points between 17th and 18th. A draw in the QPR/Reading match tomorrow does neither team any favours. All of a sudden Norwich are up to 15th place. What a difference a fortnight makes.

7 points from 9 and a league cup quarter final. Not a bad two weeks for the mighty yellows!!!

On a side note I have a new found admiration for Stoke fans. You have to be dedicated to watch that dross week in week out
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Post by westisbest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 7:13 pm

Good win from villa today, needed it, with united, city and arsenal to come this month.

Westwood played well, first league start.
Benteke and Ireland played well to from what I hear.

Most people and fairly so will say we have 3 defeats coming up.
Being realistic I would be happy with 3 points from these games.
A win from one of them, or three draws would be good results for us.
Sadly I see three losses, but you never know.
Will be interesting to see how we get on.

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 7:30 pm

westisbest wrote:
Will be interesting to see how we get on.

The way results have been panning out you'll probably take four points from them three games! Arsenal are certainly beatable - especially at home. There is no real pressure to take anything away from these games so anything whatsoever will be a bonus. I think Villa will be fine but it depends what your expectations are in terms of where you finish? I'd say anywhere between 10th and 14th constitutes a good season for Villa. Alot of work to be done there for sure.

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Post by westisbest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 7:54 pm

It's an interesting one freek..

We've been playing well in some games, but not getting the results.
Today played well and got the results.

If we can get 3/4 points over next 3 games I'd be delighted.
If we can get results against teams around us, then we can push on, maybe even put a little run together, maybe.

10th would be a great finish, compared on last season, probably bit ott.
See who we sign/sell in January.
We'll be ok this season. Lambert is a decent manager(heard a few villa fans saying they wanted him out). Shocking. Not sure what team they think we are.
Again, great to get the win today, looking forward to the big test that is utd at vp.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 7:58 pm

westisbest wrote:It's an interesting one freek..

We've been playing well in some games, but not getting the results.
Today played well and got the results.

If we can get 3/4 points over next 3 games I'd be delighted.
If we can get results against teams around us, then we can push on, maybe even put a little run together, maybe.

10th would be a great finish, compared on last season, probably bit ott.
See who we sign/sell in January.
We'll be ok this season. Lambert is a decent manager(heard a few villa fans saying they wanted him out). Shocking. Not sure what team they think we are.
Again, great to get the win today, looking forward to the big test that is utd at vp.

How can they want him out after like 2 months??? Look at what he came into, a pretty dire squad with bang average players on huge wages. He is doing a good job turning you round, these things take time
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 7:59 pm

Norwich's next three games are Reading away, Utd at home and Everton away. I have a bad feeling about Reading next week. I would take 2/3 points from those fixtures
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Post by Guest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:05 pm

It's quite a fall from grace for Villa bearing in mind they were regular European qualifiers under Martin O'Neil what 3 or 4 years ago.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:09 pm

FreekShow wrote:It's quite a fall from grace for Villa bearing in mind they were regular European qualifiers under Martin O'Neil what 3 or 4 years ago.

Unsustainable spending though. They had the chance that season to get fourth didnt they? Didnt get it when they really should have, and it has hit them financially ever since
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:39 pm

Listen to Tony Pulis's interview tonight on Match of the Day complaining about Snodgrass and diving by Norwich. Yet I can tell you being at the game that his Stoke players were dreadful for it. All Charlie Adam did was dive and how 6ft 7 Peter Crouch can go down like a sack of potatoes at the slightest touch is embarassing
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Post by westisbest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:45 pm

Give it a season or 2 and hopefully we'll be back up there again.
Since o'neil left, we've had 2 managers who were poor.

Give lambert time he'll turn us around.
We actually don't have a bad a squad as people think.

Will be interesting to see who lambert brings in, in January.

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Post by westisbest Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:45 pm

A big plus for us and its showing is Guzan doing a u turn an coming back to us.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:47 pm

What formation is Lambert using west? The diamond?
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Post by Liam Sat 03 Nov 2012, 8:47 pm

Feel for Lambert, as Olly said he's come into a team that is full of average players with a handful of promising young talent, such as Albrighton and Bannan.

Benteke is a good signing, but I expect Bent to leave which will be a shame as he is a genuine goal scorer but clearly doesn't fit into Lambert's plans. Hopefully Agbonlahor can stay fit, when's on form he's quality.

If he can get a bit of funding in January to bolster the squad, bring in a cm and a couple others and they'll be fine imo.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 03 Nov 2012, 9:10 pm

Tony Pulis and Martin O'Neil. There positions must be under some scrutiny at the moment considering there current league positions
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