2012/13 Premier League discussion thread part 3

by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:49 pm

Let the talk, arguments, disagreements and bickering continue...

I really fancy a Spurs win today.

by JamesLincs Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:55 pm

obviously im going to be pessimistic, sandro for me is a huge loss as hes hes been player of the season so far. but if bale and lennon can perform it could be a great day

by The Special Juan Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:57 pm

I want a Utd win, think it will be a draw and fear it will be a loss.

by GSC Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:59 pm

Gut says Spurs can nick something

by GSC Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:09 pm

Chelsea manager Rafael Benitez: "Today Torres was a key player for us. Every run he was always there and ready and pushing the defenders.

50m decoy

by mystiroakey Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:15 pm

this game is pretty poor so far..

by JamesLincs Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:24 pm

wasted ball after wasted ball by naughton, as always

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:27 pm

Great goal from united.

by JamesLincs Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:32 pm

i think lloris should have done better

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:34 pm

He would have needed to grow a foot and a half to do better.

by Duty281 Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:55 pm

Thinking Spurs might just nick a point or three here despite being 1 down at HT. United look overly cautious, not there normal selves at all.

by JamesLincs Sun 20 Jan 2013, 4:57 pm

beaten at his near post

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:11 pm

Lots of diving from spurs.

by Lumbering_Jack Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:17 pm

Rumours Pardew has been sacked. Anyone hear anything?

by Hulking_up Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:18 pm

Scott Parker has had 2 but you won't hear about it.

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:22 pm

How has the ref missed that penalty?

by The Special Juan Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:29 pm

Carrick > Xavi + Iniesta + Busquets combined

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:52 pm

Only ourselves to blame, very comfortable defending but kept messing up the final pass when we broke.

Can we have a media storm over this stone wall penalty not given? Or we will just ignore it...

by JamesLincs Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:52 pm

by GSC Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:55 pm

Rooney wouldve missed it anyway

by Duty281 Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:55 pm

Tottenham deserved at least a point, by far the better team in that game. United far too cautious in this one. Lennon was terrific, get that man in the England squad. Well played Tottenham. clap

by JamesLincs Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:56 pm

love it! fantastic performance, ive never understood the term 'the draw felt like a win' until today. im delighted with the performance, we absolutely deserve the draw. neither team deserved to lose. and it wont do you any damage i dont think. youre far too good not to win it!

by JamesLincs Sun 20 Jan 2013, 5:57 pm

words cant describe how much i love lennon

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:02 pm

Just irritating as tactically we were spot on, strong at the back, counter attacked, bullied dembele and generally kept spurs at arms length.

A bit more care with our passes and we could have been through on several occasions.

Irritating.

by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:03 pm

Ent wrote:How has the ref missed that penalty?

Funnily enough it still won't put the theory to bed that United have the refs in their pocket

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:06 pm

gazzyD wrote:
Ent wrote:How has the ref missed that penalty?

Funnily enough it still won't put the theory to bed that United have the refs in their pocket

With or without the penalty we've only ourselves to blame, perfect performance apart from the end- a little more care with our passing and we could have had 2 or 3 goals.

Just annoying but ah well.

by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:07 pm

IMO Chris Foy had a poor game.....however credit to spurs for sticking to the task, and nicking a point right at the end of the game.

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:09 pm

CF wrote:IMO Chris Foy had a poor game.....however credit to spurs for sticking to the task, and nicking a point right at the end of the game.

At the end of the day we'd have probably won had he had a good game but to win championships you need to win in spite of refereeing performances and we would have done so had we taken more care on the break.

by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:17 pm

i thought it was an entertaining game though, and good that common sense prevailed and that the game went ahead.

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:25 pm

Thought it was a bit of an anticlimax in terms of excitement

by The Special Juan Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:28 pm

I'm disappointed but not disappointed in a very odd way. Obviously I'm hacked off about the last minute goal but then again I said I'd take a draw so I'm feeling neutral. For all Spurs possession they didn't do much with it and Utd's defense was as good as I've seen it in a long time.

I didn't see any "stonewall" penalty incident so I can't comment.

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:43 pm

I'm just annoyed for the reasons I liated above.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:47 pm

The way Spurs have been playing before the game I thought a draw would have been a good result for Utd.

Obviously conceding in the last minute is a kick in the teeth

by Liam Sun 20 Jan 2013, 6:50 pm

Disappointed we couldn't hold out in the end. Rooney has a stone wall penalty disallowed which if scored, would have probably won us the game. All credit to Spurs though, they were the better team second half and deserved a point. I thought Lennon in particular was superb all game, looked threatening every time he got the ball. Wished we didn't sit back as deep as we did second half, just invited Spurs to put pressure on us.

by mystiroakey Sun 20 Jan 2013, 7:11 pm

it was a half pace prem performance- must have been the conditions, players may have been ultra cautious...

lennon exploited that second half for sure.

Boring game for me though. But i really enjoyed the second half from arsernal

by Duty281 Sun 20 Jan 2013, 7:56 pm

Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

by The Special Juan Sun 20 Jan 2013, 8:10 pm

Duty281 wrote:Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

How many on target? 5 I bet and even that's pushing it.

by Duty281 Sun 20 Jan 2013, 9:45 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

How many on target? 5 I bet and even that's pushing it.

Depends whose stats you use. The BBC say Tottenham had 23 shots and 18 on target, the Guardian say Tottenham had 25 shots and 8 on target.

by The Special Juan Sun 20 Jan 2013, 10:05 pm

Duty281 wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:
Duty281 wrote:Wow, Tottenham had a whopping 25 shots in the game...United had just five.

How many on target? 5 I bet and even that's pushing it.

Depends whose stats you use. The BBC say Tottenham had 23 shots and 18 on target, the Guardian say Tottenham had 25 shots and 8 on target.

What do they use as the definition for a "shot on target"? I watched the game and I'd be inclined to go with the Guardian. Off the top of my head I can only remember 3 clear cut shots on target: Bale's deflected one, the one where (Dempsey?) found himself 1 v 1 with De Gea after snaking his way through the defence and the goal.

by Ent Sun 20 Jan 2013, 10:37 pm

Bbc must count anything blocked but they fired a few tame ones straight at de gea.

by azania Sun 20 Jan 2013, 11:18 pm

Where has my arsenal gone Sad

by mystiroakey Sun 20 Jan 2013, 11:31 pm

your arsernal is again a one man team az- Walcott!

by mystiroakey Mon 21 Jan 2013, 1:18 pm

"

GET INVOLVED

The top transfer stories today revolve around Mario Balotelli, Wilfried Zaha and Florent Malouda - what is your opinion on the trio's potential moves?

The Daily Mirror report Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson met Crystal Palace's Zaha on Sunday night after agreeing a £15m fee with the Championship club, while Malouda is a transfer target for QPR according to the Daily Mail. "

we held out and got 15m.. Well done palace... And man u you have one hell of a player..

by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 2:35 pm

Ent wrote:Only ourselves to blame, very comfortable defending but kept messing up the final pass when we broke.

Can we have a media storm over this stone wall penalty not given? Or we will just ignore it...

No media storm, of course (other than attacking Fergie maybe), because it really ruins everyone's fun when you point out that decisions often go against United and other teams benefit a lot more from refereeing or score more last minute goals etc (this final point being true of both Arsenal and Chelsea [more goals and greater proportion of goals, both] but you never here people banging on about 'Wenger-time' or Chelsea always squeaking last minute winners).

by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 2:40 pm

Duty281 wrote:Tottenham deserved at least a point, by far the better team in that game.

Have never understood this phrase, or the point of it at least. United handed out one of the most one-sided beatings I've ever seen in the Prem for the whole second half at OT but Spurs came away with the win. And? If Spurs 'deserved' yesterday's point then United at least 'deserved' 1 if not all 3 earlier in the season.

by liverbnz Mon 21 Jan 2013, 3:11 pm

So United fans are moaning about a decision going against them by 'not moaning'.

Clever!

by TopHat24/7 Mon 21 Jan 2013, 3:20 pm

No, United fans are moaning, we are just not surprised that everyone else is totally ignoring it (as usual).

by liverbnz Mon 21 Jan 2013, 4:23 pm

It's a bit like a billionaire complaining of being charged PPI. He's in the right, but no cares as he has loads of money in the bank anyway.

That's generally what happens when people feel the right result (on the balance of play) was achieved. There was plenty made of United's appeals for pens at Old Trafford vs Spurs as people felt United deserved more. Although, I've heard plenty of people going on about the decision yesterday and today. Easily as much as the West Ham decisions on Wednesday.

by Lumbering_Jack Tue 22 Jan 2013, 9:44 pm

I've always held a special dislike for Villa. Watching Bradford beat them tonight brought a big smile to my face.

by JamesLincs Wed 23 Jan 2013, 7:47 pm

comon west ham Smile

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