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Who will win the 2012 T20 World Cup?

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Post by Pal Joey Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:02 am

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Please feel free to discuss every ball of the 2012 T20 World Cup here.

Who do you think will win?



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Post by mystiroakey Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:14 am

that certainly wasnt out.. but !! thats cricket

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:16 am

looking at that Sangakkara wicket again, Swann and Bairstow go straight up in unison, which makes me think there's something there. Can't see what else it could be but bat on ball? and looking carefully at the ball I think there's a slight wobble in the seam position as it passes the edge, so I think that's a very good decision.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:17 am

poor finish to the over from Broad unfortunately, rubbish full toss. too many dots for SL you still think though...

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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:18 am

True Bairstow looks more backstop than keeper ...but in fairness those low snicked balls from fast bowlers often evade better men than him...the change of direction makes it tricky.

Broad very tight here...four dots...but then two fours ...

Not much running between wickets going on Smile

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:21 am

this is a bit brainless from Mendis actually, he's just playing the big shot every ball for some reason, so far gets away with it. Bairstow struggling in that over, but they were both really tough takes.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:22 am

Is it "good bye" to Bairstow as an international wicketkeeper? Erm

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:23 am

Bairstow does well there, maybe a fumble but saves three runs...

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Post by guildfordbat Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:26 am

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Is it "good bye" to Bairstow as an international wicketkeeper? Erm

When are you leaving for Durham, Corporal? Wink

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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:26 am

So Swann is done now ...hope Bopara can do the business here as Sri Lanka could get away a bit , and I really don't fancy chasing 160 plus...actually very decent over from Ravi there.

But with six more overs , at 104/3 , I fear for England unless they can bag a wicket or two soon...

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:27 am

The odd thing about Bairstow the 'keeper is that Yorkshire have, in the past, trusted him with the gloves in 4-day cricket despite having the very competent Gerard Brophy also in the squad (Brophy has now been released, but I'd expect them to use Bairstow ahead of another good gloveman - Andrew Hodd - next season).

Either he is actually fairly decent, or Yorkshire just think its best for Jonny's career if he keeps as often as possible.

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:29 am

Patel looks to be the weak link today... I'd say we pull him out of the attack after this over.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:30 am

very very poor over from Patel, who shouldn't have been bowling.

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:32 am

How much is this a "turning pitch"?

Enough that Mendis will actually get noticeable movement? Certainly you'd expect Dananjaya to be a threat.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:32 am

Wheels coming off as Patel starting to make Dernbach look economical..... Rolling Eyes

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:33 am

there's the wicket, but it's come a good 20 runs too late. England desperately need a special finish here.

why did Patel bowl that over? Bopara clearly the better option...

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:34 am

Broad gets Mendis.

But chasing 160 on this pitch could be tough.
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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:34 am

Disastrous over from Patel : Sad

Not sure why he bowled it at all given Bopara was doing well...

(great , if fruitless , effort from Finn to "catch" that)

This is racing away from England now ...wicket ! Not before time , 126/4 Broad gets Mendis...and Matthews !!!

How quickly it can change Smile

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:34 am

and that might just be the start of it, Broad makes Matthews play on and for the second time today an English bowler is on a hat-trick.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:34 am

Now that makes things interesting, Broad on a hattrick
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:35 am

Perera the new batsman, nothing in his half please Very Happy

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:36 am

brilliant from Dernbach clap

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:36 am

it is indeed all short at Perera, get it into his ribs...

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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:37 am

Real Captain's effort there from Broad , 2/7 that over.

Big four overs coming up ...hope the three pace men are going to get this right

Finn up first...

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:39 am

Thirimanne at six is a poor option for SL. He's more of a classical player and Chandimal would therefore surely have been the better selection in that position.

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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:40 am

Today would be a really good time for Derbach to live up to his ( rather dubious in my view) reputation as a "death" bowler.

That was an excellent over from Finn. clap

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:41 am

seriously SL? a short run? how very amateur...

brilliant finish from Finn, just two singles and a leg-bye from that over.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:43 am

Doh

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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:46 am

One handed sixes now !

Afraid Derbach is no Ryan Sidebottom ...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:46 am

Dernbach coming back well from being whacked, but then bowls a length ball and is slapped over long-on for six. not good enough.

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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:48 am

This could be 170 ...

Sorry but I reckon England are on their way home Sad

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:48 am

He has the tools and has used them well before, but Dernbach's 'normal ball' is a real worry - at the top level his variations can only take him so far...

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:49 am

Could be Dernbach's last over for England for some time....

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:49 am

I think we can safely say that England's selections with regards to the bowlers backfired...

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Post by liverbnz Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:49 am

Dernbach's mythical England career coming to an end.


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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:50 am

Do we give Dernbach the last over? Or go to Ravi? (or even Wright?)

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:52 am

Broad gets unlucky there, he outguesses Thirimane but it's edged for four more, everything going SL's way. Bowls him next ball, but this is going to be a huge ask for England to chase this down.

hindsight's a wonderful thing, but having produced their best bowling of the tournament in the previous game I'm staggered that England chose to make so many changes...

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:54 am

Corporalhumblebucket wrote:Could be Dernbach's last over for England for some time....
Well, for at least five minutes..... Shocked

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:55 am

Personally I don't see why we dropped Briggs. Hopefully Patel will prve me wrong and get some runs, but I'd have much rather have had Briggs in the side tbh.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:57 am

brainless from Broad, gifting an unnecessary overthrow.

good finish from England though, just 7 runs from the last 8 balls.

England will need something special from someone though to get close.

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:59 am

Not a terrible effort given SL's stronger suit is their batting.

If we forget England's troubles against anyone bowling off a run up shorter than five steps I'd give us a 50/50 chance. Sadly its more like 75/25 in the Sri Lankans favour when you consider that.

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Post by alfie Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:59 am

Mad for Chelsea wrote:I think we can safely say that England's selections with regards to the bowlers backfired...

Well as I said it before the game , I feel quite entitled now to suggest that swapping back to Dernbach and Patel after the last game defied logic and has quite likely cost England the match.
Of course I can't guarantee Briggs and Bresnan would have done better ...but hard to see how they could have been worse.

Much better last over from Dernbach , but the horse has bolted. 42 is way too many to concede. And Patel ...

Reckon this is 15-20 too many for England to chase.

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Post by liverbnz Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:00 am

We need a 70/80 from Morgan (or someone) here with good support from elsewhere.

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:01 am

I would add that how much the pitch turns has rarely been a significant factor in our recent spin travails - in the UAE only Abu Dhabi gave anything more than an ordinary level of assistance, and the pitches in SL weren't even exactly dust-bowls.

Hence its perhaps wrong to assume that because this pitch is a turner our (considerable) issues against spin will necessarily be exacerbated.


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Post by guildfordbat Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:02 am

Mad for Chelsea wrote:

hindsight's a wonderful thing, but having produced their best bowling of the tournament in the previous game I'm staggered that England chose to make so many changes...

Mad - that's not hindsight. Many here were unhappy with the bowling of Dernbach and Patel before the previous game. Having left them out for that and done well, it seems incredulous to have recalled them. Combined figures of 0-69 off 6 overs supports that.

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:04 am

Reading some madness from South African journalist Firdose Moonda, who thinks that dropping Amla and putting du Plessis up to open is a good idea... picard

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:09 am

SL have found an extra run from somewhere, maybe the short run was in fact a signal of "one for the over"?

England need to get after Matthews really...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:11 am

that's OK, 7 from the first over...

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Post by msp83 Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:15 am

Missed out on the entire Lanka innings. Dernbach is not good enough to play international cricket. The only change from the usual today was the all costly expensive over was his 3rd and not the 4th. Bresnan had done a much better job the other day.

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Post by msp83 Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:16 am

Malinga should have opened the bowling. The 3 spinners and Malinga, England really have to get their act together if they have to progress.

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Post by Shelsey93 Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:17 am

Very surprised that SL haven't opened with Jeevan Mendis. Spin is much easier to play when off to a good start against the quicks.

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