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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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2. Bathite

Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:50 pm

Are we expecting all international sides to be named today? Have a rugby game tomorrow night and in lectures all day so would be a late one for my team coming in.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:40 pm

Matt Tait used to have some gas on him! I wonder if he'll ever get back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTtTppu4kI8

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:02 pm

Just gets worse and worse for Ireland. POC out now so down half of the 1st choice pack including the three best carriers! On the plus side for me on here Henderson might well be involved now!

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Post by prop_lyd Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:19 pm

Strauss vs Strauss could be interesting!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:15 pm

Argentina. They have a fine chance to beat Wales

JM Hernandez (Racing Metro), G Camacho (Exeter), G Tiesi (San Isidro), F Contepomi (Stade Francais), J Imhoff (Racing Metro), N Sanchez (Bordeaux-Begles), M Landajo (San Isidro), M Ayerza (Leicester), E Guinazu (Southern Kings), J Figallo (Montpellier); M Carizza (Racing Metro), JF Cabello (Tucuman); L Senatore (Gimnasia Rosario), JM Leguizamon (Lyon), JM Fernandez Lobbe (Toulon, captain).

Replacements: A Creevy (Montpellier), B Posiglioni (La Plata), J Gomez (Los Matreros), T Vallejos (Scarlets), T Leonardi (San Isidro), N Vergallo (Southern Kings), H Agulla (Bath), J Tuculet (Grenoble)

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Post by prop_lyd Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:13 am

Pretty scary side, thinl Wales by 4.
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Post by Driver Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:04 am

Argentina might sneak this one , Only North and Cuthbert have any real form in the backs whilst the Welsh back row have struggled at there regions this season.
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Post by Guest Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:11 am

Argentina are not playing there strongest side. a few notable names missing including bosch at 13 who was one of the best players in the RC.


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Post by prop_lyd Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:20 am

Guys: I nEed an os to loan for a bit, does anyone have one?!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:34 am

Jamie Roberts off to Racing Metro

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:36 am

Australia: Mike Harris; Adam Ashley-Cooper, Ben Tapuai, Pat McCabe, Nick Cummins; Kurtley Beale, Nick Phipps; Benn Robinson, Tatafu Polota Nau, Sekope Kepu, Kane Douglas, Nathan Sharpe )capt), Dave Dennis, Michael Hooper, Wycliff Palu

Replacements: Stephen Moore, James Slipper, Paddy Ryan, Rob Simmons, Radike Samo, Liam Gill, Brett Sheehan, Berrick Barnes

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:32 am

On paper that is a pretty average side

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:34 am

With Pocock, Horwill, Genia, JOC out of the side we should really turn them over

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:39 am

Team: 15-Brice Dulin, 14-Wesley Fofana, 13-Florian Fritz, 12-Maxime Mermoz, 11-Vincent Clerc, 10-Frederic Michalak, 9-Maxime Machenaud, 8-Louis Picamoles, 7-Fulgence Ouedraogo, 6-Yannick Nyanga, 5-Yoann Maestri, 4-Pascal Pape (captain), 3-Nicolas Mas, 2-Dimitri Szarzewski, 1-Yannick Forestier

Replacements: 16 Benjamin Kayser, 17-Thomas Domingo, 18-Vincent Debaty, 19-Jocelino Suta, 20-Damien Chouly, 21-Morgan Parra, 22-Francois Trinh-Duc, 23-Yoann Huget

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 9:40 am

2 loose heads on the bench for France??

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Post by Driver Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:21 am

The maveric selections are back!

Fofana on the wing again? Mermoz playing 12 for. Country but not club
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:26 am

Very strange, along with some 30 something's who probably have little chance of playing in the next World Cup.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:31 am

England team as expected


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Post by Guest Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:33 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:With Pocock, Horwill, Genia, JOC out of the side we should really turn them over

Barnes also only on bench as he recovers from injury. Not a great aussie side

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:56 am

are we just waiting on Ireland and NZ sides now?


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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:03 pm

What is the deal with NZ Maori and international games? Can I still play Andre Taylor?

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:51 pm

15. Anthony Watson; 14. Topsy Ojo; 13. Guy Armitage; 12. Shane Geraghty; 11. Sailosi Tagicakibau; 10. Ian Humphreys; 9. Darren Allinson; 1. Alex Corbisiero; 2. Brian Blaney; 3. Leo Halavatau; 4. George Skivington; 5. Bryn Evans (Captain); 6. Matt Garvey; 7. Jamie Gibson; 8. Chris Hala’ufia

Replacements: 16. Gerard Ellis; 17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa; 18. Cai Griffiths; 19. Kieran Low; 20. Alex Gray; 21. Conor Gaston; 22. Steven Shingler; 23. Jack Moates


Strong Irish side for LV. What sort of a side do you think Sale will field Steve?

Debating going to this now I have seen that team.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:12 pm

I have no idea nick. we age only missing gray so I hope we go strong with no other hope of hc rugby next season

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Post by prop_lyd Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:26 pm

Glos are playing mainly youngsters in this match with some Cinderford players in the squad too.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:01 pm

Mermoz ha played both 12 and 13 this season. French management really don't rare parra do they. Yachvili normally selected in front of him, now Machenaud.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:05 pm

Parra has been really good lately too. Slumped off last season but has got his fizz back when I've seen him.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:59 pm

The Gavin Hastings Lions XV:
15. Lee Byrne, 14. George North, 13. Brian O'Driscoll, 12. Jonathan Davies, 11. Tim Visser, 10. Jonny Sexton, 9. Danny Care, 8. Nick Easter, 7. Chris Robshaw, 6. Stephen Ferris, 5. Courtney Lawes, 4. Richie Gray, 3. Adam Jones, 2. Matthew Rees, 1. Joe Marler

Make of this what you will

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:03 pm

Ireland

Simon Zebo, Tommy Bowe, Keith Earls, Gordon D'Arcy, Andrew Trimble, Jonathan Sexton, Conor Murray, Cian Healy, Richardt Strauss, Mike Ross, Donnacha Ryan, Mike McCarthy, Peter O'Mahony, Chris Henry, Jamie Heaslip (captain)

Replacements: Sean Cronin, David Kilcoyne, Michael Bent, Donnacha O'Callaghan, Iain Henderson, Eoin Reddan, Ronan O'Gara, Fergus McFadden

I don't see them beating SA I have to say. Desperatley short of experience in areas. I'd have gone with Bowe at 15 as I've never seen Zebo play there.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:06 pm

Where to start?

Byrne playing well but I'd have Halfpenny, Kearney, Foden, Brown, Armitage, Hogg ahead of him when all fit and firing!

No way Visser is a better player than Cuthbert, Ashton, Bowe.

Easter is playing well but again not sure about him for the Lions, would prefer someone a bit more explosive.

Also take Healy over Marler.

Hard to leave out Roberts and Tuilagi as well.

Think we need pace and power and explosive players to beat the Aussies.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:07 pm

Zebo could be an interesting call with SA's kicking game. He could be in for a bad afternoon I think.

Can see SA by 20+ if Ireland don't start well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:08 pm

These pro's obvioulsy know a fair bit about rugby, but they do come up with some really odd calls.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:11 pm

I see a lot of odd calls there.

Byrne not for me as I havent seen him best form since last Lions tour. Marler and Rees not the favourites to start as we stand but I expect both to tour.

Easter the best 8 in europe on form and if he continues it he has a decent chance of touring but plenty of competition at 8.

Robshaw behind Warburton and Rennie as we stand. Think he will tour though. Ferris needs to prove fitness as its a tough old tour.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:18 pm

Samoa: 15 James Sooialo, 14 Paul Perez, 13 George Pisi, 12 Setaimata Sa, 11 Robert Lilomaiava, 10 Tusi Pisi, 9 Jeremy Su'a, 8 Taiasina Tuifua, 7 Fomai Tivaini, 6 Ofisa Treviranus, 5 Filo Paulo, 4 Fa'atiga Lemalu, 3 Census Johnston, 2 Ole Avei, 1 Sakaria Taulafo (c).

Replacements: 16 Ropeti Lafo, 17 James Johnston, 18 Joe Tekori, 19 Alafoti Faosiliva, 20 Kahn Fotuali'i, 21 Johnny Leota, 22 Fa'atoina Autagavaia.


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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:38 pm

I'm interested to see how Sa gets on.

With any luck he will be joining up with irish squad early 2013.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:39 pm

Good centres and depth at tight head. Tusi Pisi is a tremendous prospect at 10. Had a storming world cup

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:46 pm

Both Warburton and Rennie are not having the best of seasons Steve, top players though.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:54 pm

Dont know if Sa is any good Matt, this will be his first Union game I think?

Agree pooly, form British opensides are Robshaw, Tipuric and Armitage.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:59 pm

Long time to go still, if it was just after the 6N I'd go Rennie/Warbs but a lot changes in 6 month.

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:09 pm

Meant exciting centres. Sa is meant to be hot property and a lot of hype around him.

Pisi really good. Why is Ken pisi not involved

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:29 pm

Ken Pisi is quality to watch. great in attack but suspect in defence.

I hope Sa is good, time will tell. Smith said he is the replacement for Mapusua so massive boots to fill.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:42 pm

Seriously considering Pisi as my next foreign. Anyone know when the next window is?

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:44 pm

Pisi limped off last weekend for Saints, imagine that he is still injured from that.

Fiji probably the worst team in the AI's out of the Pacific Islands teams, major issues with corruption in the Fiji RFU - think they have 16 uncapped players and a lot of their top players have all said they'd rather play for their clubs - pretty sure Qera and Ratavua have only been released for the England game.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:54 pm

Think same applies to Naqalevuki as well Chris.

Interesting to see Taumalolo picked ahead of Tonga'uhia.

There scrum should be decent with those two and Aulika at tighthead.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:55 pm

I don't think Tiny has been released

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:57 pm

Tonga'uhia is on the bench for them.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:00 pm

Missed that, strange call

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Post by Guest Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:16 pm

Tiny is not what he was taumalolo a better player now. Good carrier and mobile. Never thought I would see tiny like he has been this year. So slow and does not scrummage like he used to.

Been a great player for saints over the years. Time and hard matches catches up with everyone at some point

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:25 pm

He's only 30 Matt, hardly old for a prop. He's had a few rough games but had a great battle with Castro last week.

Doesn't seem to be rampaging round the park like he used too though but still carrying well. He was probably the best carrying prop about a few years back so was always going to slow.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:30 pm

A few years ago Soane Tonga'uhia was arguably the best loosehead in the world. I expect he will find his form again soon enough.

I remember him getting a tough time from tonga management before now. Nice problem for Tonga to have though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:44 pm

NZ still not named their side?!?!

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