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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:38 pm

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Second win of the season for Saracens and defeats for Welsh, Wasps and Worcester mean there is just 3 points between the bottom four.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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8 Homepage - Page 11 1Bath Rugby840 4 185 193 -17 17 21 0 3 19
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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalisst - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by stnick88 Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:01 am

http://www.london-irish.com/flvpopup.ink?videourl=/uploads/video/Topsy%20Ojo%20Tries.flv&summary=London%20Irish%20record%20try%20scorer%20in%20action

good little video of the legend that is topsy ojo!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:04 am

Guys

If you've not listened to it before, have a listen to this weeks v2 rugby podcast. We had Exeter Chiefs hooker Neil Clark on, top fella, talked well about how scrummaging has changed amongst over things...

http://www.v2journal.com/the-breakdown-v2-rugby-podcast-24-october-2012.html
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Post by dammit_chris Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:05 am

England squad for AI's.

Forwards: Mouritz Botha (Saracens), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), James Haskell (London Wasps), Phil Dowson (Northampton Saints), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs), Courtney Lawes. (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby), Tom Palmer (London Wasps), Geoff Parling (Leicester Tigers), Chris Robshaw (Harlequins), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Thomas Waldrom (Leicester Tigers), David Wilson (Bath Rugby), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints), Tom Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

Backs: Anthony Allen (Leicester Tigers), Chris Ashton (Saracens), Brad Barritt (Saracens), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints), Owen Farrell (Saracens), Toby Flood (Leicester Tigers), Alex Goode (Saracens), Jonathan Joseph (London Irish), Ugo Monye (Harlequins), Charlie Sharples (Gloucester Rugby), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

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Post by Guest Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:07 pm

How long is Joe Gray out injured for? Was looking forward to seeing him get a cap

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu Oct 25, 2012 3:49 pm

Mixed feelings over Burns not being included. Think its good for him long term but would have liked to see him get some experience in the camp.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:03 pm

Think he will only improve playing consistently for Glos.

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Post by Guest Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:07 pm

Burns should be left alone for the season i think.

he has been playing well but let him develop a bit more

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Post by stnick88 Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:44 pm

Can I do tactics first thIng tomorrow Pete? Have no laptop still

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Post by Guest Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:49 pm

I am same nick. Just finished work and will not be back home until at least 11 that's If the trains from London behave

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:57 am

Bad news for SJE maybe

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3826_8194282,00.html

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:18 pm

All the sky sports pundits have been rating players (anyone eligible) and there backline for Lions on average ratings alone is

9. Care
10. Hodgson
11. Sam Smith
12. Jamie Roberts
13. JD
14. Cuthbert
15. Halfpenny

Someone asked who should be captain said Alun Wyn-Jones. Most popular were POC and Warbs, with Robshaw and BOD getting a nod each.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:20 pm

Bet the aussies would love us to put that backline out. Hodgson and Sam smith!!!

Its funny that ratings system

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:25 pm

They do kind of say each week that it isn't the team they'd pick.

Warbs needs a good AI, he's been off colour and has Tups at his heels.

I wouldn't have AWJ anywhere near the lions, never mind captain

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:28 pm

i would not have AWJ fix my sink. Goes missing time and again. should not be in Wales team. one good game in 5.

Never been a fan and never will

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:52 pm

the pundits didn't want a captain. They wanted a tour captain (BOD) and then pick it week by week. I think that is best unless Warbs, BOD or POC really step up as they are the only real candidates for me.

Still no one nailed down for me. As we stand if fit only Sexton, North, Best, Warburton, Ashton and Halfpenny will definately tour if fit

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:57 pm

I would add Ferris and Adam Jones to that list for sure

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:00 pm

No I don't think Ferris is guaranteed. He is too much of a fitness liability. Same with POC. Hoping Warbs doesnt head the same way.

Adam Jones, Dan Cole and Mike Ross all nearly guaranteed but not sure quite yet for me. I presume we take 3 TH's and then Jenkins can cover if needed. Jenkins not guaranteed due to playing in France.

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:07 pm

Tipuric looks really good, been on better form than Warburton I would say.

They were saying last night that they should pick some players from France if they are on form and deserve it.

Gives players like Sheridan, Jenkins, Hines, Hook, Armitage a chance.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:10 pm

Think Jenkins and Hook will go of those players.

Hook as the 3rd 10.

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:45 pm

Anyone think the unity and spirit of this Lions tour wont be very good?

I think there's a chance there could be a few divides if Gatland takes Edwards and Howley and then makes Warbs captain. Too much like the Welsh set up..

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:46 pm

He should take Rowntree, Schmidt and Edwards

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:48 pm

I agree, and I think the captain should be a back and we should have a pack leader.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:49 pm

How many Scots will go? Only going to be a 34 man squad isn't it?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:04 pm

I think the captain should be the best captain. I myself prefer a captain in the forwards, to lead from the front, but no real objection to it being a back.

I reckon Richie Gray, Dave Denton, Ross Rennie and Mike Blair and maybe Tim Visser will go (although I personally wouldn't take Visser)

There is a chance that there could be more Scots than English with a bad 6 Nations for us. We have a lot of guys who 'could' go on top form and are probably good enough to play Lions rugby, but whether they are better than their Celtic counterparts or not I don't know.

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:09 pm

Richie Grey is nailed on also for the lions. i would take Blair Rennie and Denton also.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:13 pm

Blair would want to have a fantastic 6 nations and be the stand out scrummie to go. Playing Div 2 rugby massively hurts his chances for me

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:29 pm

Cant see Blair going.

Backrow will be the toughest area to pick, generally how many backrowers do they take?

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Post by Guest Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:30 pm

Its all up for grabs. Six nations will decide it.

Scrum halves have blair,phillips,Murray, Youngs, Care to pick from so will be tight

Whoever has the best form will go with maybe phillips the nearest to being a definite pick for the Squad

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:43 pm

currently i'd go phillips, care, youngs

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:51 pm

Phillips has been really poor in France, always looks a different player for Wales though.

I really don't think there's any real nailed on, anybody could come through or massively fall off. Long way to go yet.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:03 pm

I like Blair, think he is great for tempo. I confess I forgot he was playing in D2 in France but I like him.

Phillips and Care I'd expect to go. Youngs in form goes as well but that isn't a guarantee.

Murray, L.Dickson, Reddan, Williams, Knoyle also have a chance as 9's.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:04 pm

Bayonne seem to ruin players. Rokocoko useless at Bayonne, certainly was last season.

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:06 pm

2009 tour had 9 backrowers

hard to pick 9 out of

croft
robshaw
wood
armitage
morgan
easter
tipuric
warburton
lydiate
faletau
o'brien
heaslip
o' mahony
denton
rennie
brown

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:13 pm

Wood
Warburton
Lydiate
Faletau
O'Brien
Heaslip
Denton
Rennie
Robshaw

for me are probably the 9 best backrowers on the list. Form changes things obviously. Like you'd take Armitage now but he being unlikely to play International and likely involvement in the later stages of Top 14 make his selection unlikely.

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:23 pm

yeh know i agree steve, toulon are likely to make the playoff semi's at least, so he will miss training camps.

I'd probably agree with your list, although if Top 14 wasnt an issue would take Armitage over Rennie.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:25 pm

Ferris over one of Wood/Lydiate for me. Tipuric is worth a shout as well. Playing some very good rugby. Alot of the Welsh would have him over Warbs these days

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Post by stnick88 Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:30 pm

Yeh I've also heard a few pundits saying Tipuric is in better form and that he could be the starting 7 by the 6N.

If Ferris is 100% i would have him over Wood.

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Post by prop_lyd Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:07 pm

Keep the plaudits for Tips coming guys!! To be fair his pace is incredible!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:16 pm

I forgot about Ferris. He goes if he's been playing regular rugby. Harder to manage a player on a Lions tour

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:04 pm

Watching Dragons v Ulster tonight. On Faletau watch.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:10 pm

Nice kick from Prydie

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:13 pm

He was pump against Wasps but fantastic v Edinburgh & Bayonne. Really hard to judge him as Dragons pack gets absolutely smashed every game, such a poor team.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:19 pm

Dragons always competitive as Rodney parade. There TH Nathan Buck looks handy. Good test for Faletau. He won't face many better sides in the Magners. Ulster not missing too many.

Looks like Pienaar might win this game for Ulster on his own.

Adam Jones out of the AI's a huge blow for Wales. Two other guys are Aaron Jarvis and Samson Lee.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:25 pm

Fantastic hands for a prop!

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Post by Driver Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:42 pm

Intresting that Henry Paul is playing for Bradford and Bingley tomorrow against West Hartlepool. Thought he was in Russia?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:46 pm

He came on last week for Bees and they are in a bit of trouble so think they are gonna use him more I suspect.

Both those sides struggling a bit in that league actually.

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Post by Driver Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:03 pm

West have gone off rail big style , need a serious shake up in the senior section.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:10 pm

They were gash when they came to Chester. Big, lazy forwards will work for them more as pitches get heavier.

Blaydon doing well in National 1 for the NE sides atm. Percy Park were a decent side as well, Michael Stephenson makes a big difference to them.

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Post by Driver Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:25 pm

There still living in the 90s, think they are a prem side still.


Clermount game is a good one, barracella smashing the clermount th in scrun
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Post by Driver Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:33 pm

Benson Stanley always makes dents in a backline
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