90' 00's fighters that would have pounded Wladimir

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Another HW defence this weekend for the King of the HW's


So here are some fighters that would have kebonked him

Mike Tyson: would have come inside with a bob and a weae and KO'd him hard
Evander Prime. Dirty enough to compete on inside, wear him down, late KO
Lennox Lewis. Far better skills. Would have been pensive at first but Lewis woulda KO'd him later
Prime Vitali. Just woulda ripped his heart out
Bowe, Prime Tua would have had a chance, too.

Anymore for anymore?

Lads, I hate to be 'this guy' while there is some good debate going on, but can we cut out the pet names for each other, please? The rest can stay as it is. Cheers.

Anyway, it's off to bed now to rewatch Wlad's greatest hits against a level of opposition that when retired will rank him above the general consensus top 10 heavy Marciano.

First off it's the Chambers fight, man what a beast he was. Then I might move on to Peters, again he was just simply that good I can't believe Wlad won! Oh this could be a long night watching all his victories against guys that barely break into the top 100 heavies of all time.

The great win that was Cockell.

Chambers would have had him out of there.

coxy0001 wrote:

azania wrote:Once again, fighting and beating ancient HoFs doesn't qualify anyone as an ATG other wise Trevor Berbick would also qualify.

Yes, Wlad got spanked. So did Lewis yet some fools rate him top 5. Moore/Charles/Walcott = old men.

Now calm down mummy's boy and quit your temper tantrums.

Chavez was never a cumbersome fighter. Do you actually know anything about boxing boy? Do you watch fights?

I said Chavez was cumbersome in comparison to someone like Whitaker. Learn to read, take it in then reply before making yourself look a bigger buffoon than usual. Judah had it all in terms of agility, but I know who I'd back between him and the relatively cumbersome Chavez.

"Once again, fighting and beating ancient HoFs doesn't qualify anyone as an ATG "

Erm, but beating the likes of Chambers, Mormeck, Austin and Brock do. Here's a question, which one of his victims would you actually rate as a proper noteworthy victory when trying to say how great Wlad is? Common Az, am dying to hear your reasoning on this one.

Chavez was not cumbersome in comparison to anyone. He had terrific footwork and a wonderful and fluent skillset. I'll ask again, do you know anything about the sport of boxing to come out with tripe like this? Nothing relative about it.

Beating he likes of Cockell elevates someone to ATG top 10 I see.

coxy0001 wrote:

monty junior wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

azania wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:And lets just leave Az to it lads, guy is a bit (and the rest) of a clown.

First we have Wlad > Marciano and now this. Just an attention seeker, is almost as bad as Truss who at least knows his stuff.

Go forth and multiply little man. o way on this green earth does Rocky beat Wlad and no way should Rocky be ranked ahead of Wlad. Based on achievement, longevity, skill, talent, ability, ring IQ, everything you can think of. Wlad is miles better than Rocky. Roy Jones would beat Rocky with relative ease also. Now this is not about Rocky, but go ahead and rant away mummy's boy.

Did I say Rocky beats Wlad? Are you that much of a complete idiot to assume that?

Achievement: Rocky has multiple HoFs on his CV, not of all which hold huge value but there are some big notable wins. Wlad has zero.

Longevity: Erm, undefeated anyone?

Skill: Erm, must've been that poorer fighter that a much more skilled Moore/Charles/Walcott found an easy way to win.

Talent: One went undefeated. One got spanked and had to be taught how to box in a stupidly negative style. Talent is natural.

Agility: Cripes, should probably slate Chavez for being a pretty cumbersome fighter compared to someone like Whitaker then.

Ring IQ: One went undefeated. One got embarrassed 3 times over and has sat on his arse more times than I can remember.

Just stay quiet little man.

Sorry but what's the point in comparing two fighters if you just keep using one went undefeated and the other lost 3 times? what has that possibly got to do with talent,agility or ring IQ.

Excuse me, but I did spell it out for you.... Talent can't be taught, Wlad had to be taught how to basically run and stay at arms length from a guy.

And Ring IQ? Jeez, a fighter to go without losing (yes, I will keep saying it even if you're not smart enough to see the point at hand) shows a level of ring smart against a guy who got knocked out 3 times and then put slap bang on his arse a fair few more. You don't go 49-0 without having your wits about you and end up generally pulverising guys in to submission.

No you didn't spell it out, you just made some brash remark that talent is purely based on your record which is obviously not the case. Wlad has supreme talent for a super heavy, he wasn't taught how to be talented at all?! he was taught how to defend well for his size and strength of his chin, there was never any question of his talent. I'm not comparing the two as i haven't watched enough of Marciano's fights to properly compare them but his opposition was also pretty woeful. Wlad has defeats but so have all the top heavy's bar Marciano, but to say he isn't talented for having a few losses and dismissing his ring IQ which is something you don't just learn straight away, it's developed over year's of pro bouts as you move to the highest echelons on championship fights is pure madness.

coxy0001 wrote:Anyway, it's off to bed now to rewatch Wlad's greatest hits against a level of opposition that when retired will rank him above the general consensus top 10 heavy Marciano.

First off it's the Chambers fight, man what a beast he was. Then I might move on to Peters, again he was just simply that good I can't believe Wlad won! Oh this could be a long night watching all his victories against guys that barely break into the top 100 heavies of all time.

Enjoy the 51 knockouts mate, hope you get enough sleep before work tomorrow

Which Klitschko did Shannon Briggs fight? He claimed that guy was the hardest hitter he had ever faced, & thats coming from a gate keeper who, by virtue of being a gate keeper, Faced the best.

Wladimir Klitschko couldn't carry Rocky Marciano's jock strap.

I don't think he'd want to. Although he'd beat the Poopie out of him