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Manny-Marquez predictions
Apologies if there's a thread about this.
I'm really looking forward to this fight and just hoping we have competent judges; for the sake of boxing we need to!
Anyways, how do you see it going?
Marquez on points for me, he has Manny's number and knows him more than any other fighter. Plus it's safe to say Manny's is on the decline. I can see this being his last fight if he loses.
I'm really looking forward to this fight and just hoping we have competent judges; for the sake of boxing we need to!
Anyways, how do you see it going?
Marquez on points for me, he has Manny's number and knows him more than any other fighter. Plus it's safe to say Manny's is on the decline. I can see this being his last fight if he loses.
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marquez on points!!
He might get a draw if it's 11-1
He might get a draw if it's 11-1
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Truss don't laugh, I'm going to put money on this!!!
Sugar Floyd Louis- Posts : 868
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For one reason or another, in the end, the balance of power always tips out of favour of the superstar.
That time, for Manny, came the night he fought Bradley.
Now the bubble has well and truly burst, the aura of invincibility with respect to judging dissipated; we are likely to get a fair result for this bout.
If so, then the outcome is pretty obvious.
That time, for Manny, came the night he fought Bradley.
Now the bubble has well and truly burst, the aura of invincibility with respect to judging dissipated; we are likely to get a fair result for this bout.
If so, then the outcome is pretty obvious.
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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You're an optimist...money can still be made for May-Manny and a win over Marquez however it's attained is a good appetiser...
Think Manny will win and deserve it though..
Think Manny will win and deserve it though..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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I'd be disappointed if we see the same rubbish as last time, Manny needs a knockout for me though and that won't happen.
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Im actually going to go against the grain here and say that I see Manny stopping Marquez.
Given Marquez has never been stopped before and the fight is at 147 that may sound strange. Even more so given the fact he has up to this point had Manny's number...However...
I think Marquez is going to be much more aggressive this time around..even dropping the counter game. I feel (and he has spoken about) he will go in thinking he has to stop Manny to win...that will I think be his downfall.
I also believe that Manny is going to surprise a few people with his performance. Whilst he has no doubt declined I'm not sure he is as bad as is being made out...against Mosley he needed to do little more than coast.
People over play how much he has declined because he hasn't seemingly been as convincing but lets not forget that he still (in most people's eyes) beat Bradley convincingly (who is a top top name) and took apart Margarito. Clottey...well no one looks good against him & before that he destroyed Cotto.
Manny knows he is coming to the end...and I think after this he will have one more fight next summer. If he wants Mayweather he has to put on a emphatic performance to entice him...I think he will.
So in saying all that...Manny late stoppage in the 9th or 10th Round.
(Saying that its still quite some way off and I may change my mind )
Given Marquez has never been stopped before and the fight is at 147 that may sound strange. Even more so given the fact he has up to this point had Manny's number...However...
I think Marquez is going to be much more aggressive this time around..even dropping the counter game. I feel (and he has spoken about) he will go in thinking he has to stop Manny to win...that will I think be his downfall.
I also believe that Manny is going to surprise a few people with his performance. Whilst he has no doubt declined I'm not sure he is as bad as is being made out...against Mosley he needed to do little more than coast.
People over play how much he has declined because he hasn't seemingly been as convincing but lets not forget that he still (in most people's eyes) beat Bradley convincingly (who is a top top name) and took apart Margarito. Clottey...well no one looks good against him & before that he destroyed Cotto.
Manny knows he is coming to the end...and I think after this he will have one more fight next summer. If he wants Mayweather he has to put on a emphatic performance to entice him...I think he will.
So in saying all that...Manny late stoppage in the 9th or 10th Round.
(Saying that its still quite some way off and I may change my mind )
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Hampy.........How many fights have you got Marquez winning??
I thought the second one was the only close one..
I thought the second one was the only close one..
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How do you propose he wins this (legitimately) ??
Why hasn't he done this more often than not when facing Marquez?
I have no appetite for a Manny/Mayweather bout.
The result is so obvious only an idiot or deviant could get wood for that one.
Why hasn't he done this more often than not when facing Marquez?
I have no appetite for a Manny/Mayweather bout.
The result is so obvious only an idiot or deviant could get wood for that one.
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Marquez is a good pro. He knows all he has to do, is do what he always does.
There is only so many times he can be robbed without the arena being ripped to the ground, or at least a serious investigation.
Regardless of results, Marquez can walk with his head held higher than Manny for the rest of eternity.
There is only so many times he can be robbed without the arena being ripped to the ground, or at least a serious investigation.
Regardless of results, Marquez can walk with his head held higher than Manny for the rest of eternity.
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Like Douglas-Tyson.....Curry-Honeyghan....you mean!!
Get wood????.......
As for Manny/May who gives a f**k what you want!! It sells like "One direction"...
I don't give a f**k about them..
Get wood????.......
As for Manny/May who gives a f**k what you want!! It sells like "One direction"...
I don't give a f**k about them..
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Hampy.........How many fights have you got Marquez winning??
I thought the second one was the only close one..
I've had him winning the last two Truss, the last one by a few rounds. Manny had no answer for the counters of Marquez and I was really shocked and disappointed with that decision.
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Trussman - Scratch that just worked it out ( I know it wasn't hard) had a few beers though!!
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I had him winning one and three...the second was contentious...
Keep scratching Owen......
Keep scratching Owen......
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Like Douglas-Tyson.....Curry-Honeyghan....you mean!!
Get wood????.......
As for Manny/May who gives a f**k what you want!! It sells like "One direction"...
I don't give a f**k about them..
Temper Temper Roid Head.
Its lucky you are far away, because in reality no one talks to me like that.
I will do shah/onetwo on this one...... and offer to meet you at a boxing club of your choice (nationwide) so i can administer a one way beat down.
I don't give a dam what weight you are. I'll burst your water balloons.
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Like Douglas-Tyson.....Curry-Honeyghan....you mean!!.
what the hell...does..that....mean anyway
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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It means many deviants and idiots haven't got wood and been wrong..
As you no doubt know from experience!!
As you no doubt know from experience!!
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:It means many deviants and idiots haven't got wood and been wrong..
As you no doubt know from experience!!
I guess....that means.....sense ....to...you?
plantpot
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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Plant pot...two words not one...
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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plant pot.....two words not one....
plant pot.....two words not one....(one sentence...not whatever this is....?)
plant pot
plant pot.....two words not one....(one sentence...not whatever this is....?)
plant pot
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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Ever thought of taking roids????
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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Going for Marquez UD again, hopefully he gets the decision when he wins this time!
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Does anyone care about this fight? A past it pacquiao getting schooled by a past it marquez above their prime weights and pacquiao getting the decision, boring
They have been alright fights but not standouts fights and every fight is less entertaining than the last.
Both said there going for the KO and both sound sharp in sparring, nothing seems to have changed since the last build up and in the ring neither will get the KO as pacquiao can't JMM cleanly enough to accumulate damage and Marquez isn't a puncher especially at welterweight and being 40
Cant believe the American public will have to pay $49.99 to watch this fight again
They have been alright fights but not standouts fights and every fight is less entertaining than the last.
Both said there going for the KO and both sound sharp in sparring, nothing seems to have changed since the last build up and in the ring neither will get the KO as pacquiao can't JMM cleanly enough to accumulate damage and Marquez isn't a puncher especially at welterweight and being 40
Cant believe the American public will have to pay $49.99 to watch this fight again
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marquez comfortably this time. manny is looking seriously old in recent pictures
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c176.0.403.403/p403x403/406863_10151487509398243_2103294235_n.jpg
http://www.toprank.com/uploaded_files/images/photo/l/l_a9306ce02d14dcf365c591f3e87ebe94Pacquiao%20opens%20camp_121029_001a.jpg
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c176.0.403.403/p403x403/406863_10151487509398243_2103294235_n.jpg
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Funny how people are writing Manny off because of Marquez!!!
Robbo had Turpin....Ali..Norton...Mosley....Forrest!!
He basically beat a p4per in Bradley last time out!!
Anybody who thinks Floyd has an easy night with Manny is deluded!!
Floyd like Hoppo doesn't want to fight 3 minutes a round these days....
Manny will make him do that...
Robbo had Turpin....Ali..Norton...Mosley....Forrest!!
He basically beat a p4per in Bradley last time out!!
Anybody who thinks Floyd has an easy night with Manny is deluded!!
Floyd like Hoppo doesn't want to fight 3 minutes a round these days....
Manny will make him do that...
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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No one is writing Manny off.
We are basically agreeing with you and saying Marquez is to Manny, what Forrest was to Mosley.
Manny seems to excel against those who wish to engage, and struggle with those who wish to counter punch or move.
That is the opinion of most, I think?
Manny doesn't have the size or strength to pin Mayweather like Cotto did (at times). Manny will make Mayweather move for 3minutes, he won't make him engage for 3 minutes. Big difference.
Frankly, I don't think you no much about fighting. I think you should stick to posing in a mirror.
We are basically agreeing with you and saying Marquez is to Manny, what Forrest was to Mosley.
Manny seems to excel against those who wish to engage, and struggle with those who wish to counter punch or move.
That is the opinion of most, I think?
Manny doesn't have the size or strength to pin Mayweather like Cotto did (at times). Manny will make Mayweather move for 3minutes, he won't make him engage for 3 minutes. Big difference.
Frankly, I don't think you no much about fighting. I think you should stick to posing in a mirror.
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A little harsh on Truss there Mackem. Manny certainly makes Floyd work and makes it uncomfortable at times. Where he gets picked off is through Floyds control of the range. He has excellent footwork and will fire the straight right down with regularity. 118 - 110 or something similar. Not the fight it was 3 years ago where Floyd still wins albeit a bit closer.
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Manny wont make you fight for 3 minutes, well at least not anymore. Against Bradley he wouldn't start working untill the last minute of every round, floyd would love that and pick him off and set the pace as he always does
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:A little harsh on Truss there Mackem.
Perhaps.
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As they say styles win fights. It is very difficult to overcome a man who has your number technically! Well unless u have the ring smarts yourself to compensate and change it up! Another loooooong night for Manny I'm afraid!
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Anyone know if sky will have this fight?
Sugar Floyd Louis- Posts : 868
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Porbably be on bloody Primetime.
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Its on the computer.
azania- Posts : 19471
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I am going Marquez pts. He has to get the nod if it is close this time. Hope Marquez gets what he deserves and Manny retires
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I'm going for Manny won (legit also). JMM has to get old eventually.
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azania wrote:Its on the computer.
Sugar Floyd Louis- Posts : 868
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Marquez to hand pacman his arse again but with a twist, when Marquez beats him again Pacman tells the world that he is changing his name to Phillip and that he is moving to Britain to persue a leading role in Monarch of the glen.
jimmy glitter pants- Posts : 86
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Wonder what the odds are on a draw so we have to go through it all again!
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spencerclarke wrote:Wonder what the odds are on a draw so we have to go through it all again!
I dont think the judges will be quite so kind this time.
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Sugar Floyd Louis wrote:Truss don't laugh, I'm going to put money on this!!!
i'd stay away from this one sugar unless your money is going on another robbery, betting on the fair result (marquez UD imo) is suicide. your'd have lost every time if you called every fight right so far.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=eQKx382WKHA#t=78s
Look how big and ripped Marquez looks...So who out of the ignorant and naive posters on here think this is natural?
Why doesn't Manny Pacquiao want random testing?...Surely with Marquez's strength and conditioner Memo history you would want that.
Look how big and ripped Marquez looks...So who out of the ignorant and naive posters on here think this is natural?
Why doesn't Manny Pacquiao want random testing?...Surely with Marquez's strength and conditioner Memo history you would want that.
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Hmmm...What if Marquez KOs Manny...Will people become suspicious then.
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My understanding is the Arce camp has NO interest in VADA testing RT @diarmuidhehir: will Arce undergo VADA testing with memo in his corner?
More proof...Arce has the same strength and conditioner as Marquez...Arce is facing Donaire who does year round testing.
My understanding is the Arce camp has NO interest in VADA testing RT @diarmuidhehir: will Arce undergo VADA testing with memo in his corner?
More proof...Arce has the same strength and conditioner as Marquez...Arce is facing Donaire who does year round testing.
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JMM doesn't look "natural". For a FW to be able to add two stone of solid muscle is not right. Look how flabby he looked against Floyd with random testing.
azania- Posts : 19471
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There was no testing for the Mayweather fight but Marquez has had Memo as his strength and conditioner since the Pacquiao fight last year.
Team Pacquiao made a big song and dance about it as they were aware of his history...Marquez said he would take the test as long as Manny did it.
We have all heard silence from the Pacquiao camp since on the issue.
Team Pacquiao made a big song and dance about it as they were aware of his history...Marquez said he would take the test as long as Manny did it.
We have all heard silence from the Pacquiao camp since on the issue.
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The difference is Marquez isn't afraid to take the test...
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Has he taken the test though?...Action speaks louder than words.
Marquez strength and conditioner Memo said he used to laugh at the testers anyway.
Marquez said he would because he knew Manny take it.
Marquez strength and conditioner Memo said he used to laugh at the testers anyway.
Marquez said he would because he knew Manny take it.
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His physique looks enhanced imo. Perhaps it's just hard training. I hope so as he's one of my favourite boxers.
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Maybe he is trying to make it a even playing field.
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