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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 09 Nov 2012, 9:19 am

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Saracens move off the bottom of the table after picking up a losing bonus point against Gloucester.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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7 Homepage - Page 19 12Sale Sharks10 5 0 5 252 242 +10 27 25 1 5 26
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12 Homepage - Page 19 57Worcester Warriors1021 7 216 257 -41 19 27 0 3 13






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Dec 2012, 8:51 pm

I've got cash, not sure of who to go for yet so could spend (23m)

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Post by stnick88 Mon 03 Dec 2012, 11:00 pm

Yeh hoff has pleaded not guilty hearing is tomorrow. Jp Doyle has to attend and explain it, irish confident it will be rescinded.

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 03 Dec 2012, 11:50 pm

Watched highlights of England gae, thought Cole, Launchbury and Wood were vncredible at the breakdown from what I saw and Farrell was like a different player whod been told to have fun!
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Post by dammit_chris Tue 04 Dec 2012, 8:25 am

So, so tempted with Foloa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnqo0ypxgnY

Trouble is I think he's only got a 6month contract and seems obsessed with money! Not sure who else to go for really - any tips on where I could improve my squad?

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Post by prop_lyd Tue 04 Dec 2012, 8:51 am

dammit_chris wrote:So, so tempted with Foloa...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnqo0ypxgnY

Trouble is I think he's only got a 6month contract and seems obsessed with money! Not sure who else to go for really - any tips on where I could improve my squad?

Head coach Wink Run
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 04 Dec 2012, 9:20 am

Sebastian Bruno (HK) (FRA)
Alistair Hargreaves (RSA)
Jordan Crane (N8) (ENG)
Thomas Waldrom (N8) (ENG)
Sarel Pretorius (RSA)
Brock James (AUS)
Dominic Waldouck (OC/IC) (ENG)
Clement Poitrenaud (FB) (FRA)
Isa Nacewa (FB/WG/FH) (FIJ)

Could all be available if the deal was right. As always, EQ needs EQ.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 04 Dec 2012, 10:29 am

Prop - touche...

I don't think I will need to spend very much to find a better head coach - probably get quite a bit of change from £10!

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Post by Driver Tue 04 Dec 2012, 10:51 am

About for a deal
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Post by dammit_chris Tue 04 Dec 2012, 2:53 pm

Interesting - has been a great player for Warriors this season, but surely not another guy in his late 20s to play for England? A beast of a man though!

http://www.espnscrum.com/premiership-2012-13/rugby/story/173997.html

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 04 Dec 2012, 3:18 pm

Anyone fancy a cheap EQ hooker?

Rob Hawkins going for a few quid

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Post by stnick88 Tue 04 Dec 2012, 4:42 pm

I'l would take him If I had the money steve!

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Post by Driver Tue 04 Dec 2012, 6:06 pm

Nicolas Mas moves to Montpillier for next season by all accounts.
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Post by Guest Tue 04 Dec 2012, 6:39 pm

That interesting as they already have a top th?

Lots of transfer activity ahead then ?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 04 Dec 2012, 7:18 pm

Get ready for an explosion guys. Halaufia banned for 5 weeks

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 04 Dec 2012, 7:52 pm

That is the most ridiculous disciplinary decision I have ever seen!!!


Anyway, if anyone wants an EQ bench option, the following are available from me...

Charlie Davies - £2m
Matt Smith - £4m

Butch James is also available for cash, £5 million would get him.
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Post by Guest Tue 04 Dec 2012, 9:26 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8306999,00.html

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Post by stnick88 Tue 04 Dec 2012, 9:28 pm

Irish are appealing it

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 04 Dec 2012, 9:43 pm

anonmattyt wrote:http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8306999,00.html

I thought McCaw would walk it to be honest, quite surprised. Was def between those two though so fair award, Carter has been great.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 04 Dec 2012, 9:49 pm

Should have been Kieran Read.

Carter not in my 5 nominees who would be Read, McCaw, Sharpe, JMF and Dagg

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Post by Guest Tue 04 Dec 2012, 10:33 pm

Depends Steve. Think its from January ? If so carter. If it includes world cup read dagg etc.


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Post by Driver Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:21 am

Rhys Ruddock meant to be on fire at 7 for Leinster at moment , how would people rate me playing him?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 05 Dec 2012, 9:53 am

Ruddock has only had 2/3 games this season Driver. Played 7 for the first time this season last week against Zebra. He wil be fine for Europe/AW but against full strength backrows in the league would be a weakness for me at the moment

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:07 pm

Think their is an issue with foreign transfers which needs addressing. Will post more when on PC. Has to be a time frame or something implemented where valid bids can be accepted after a certain time

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:17 pm

Steve

Foreign transfers have worked fine since the game began, and it has always been a minimum of 24 hours and not a strict 'I will answer after 24 hours'.

I presume that your unhappiness stems from Mat coming in and bidding for Figallo, which is understandable, however having just looked at the foreigns I would not have accepted your £18 million bid in any case, as top class international tightheads are worth their weight in gold and for Figallo I would expect top whack for the range that he falls in (£20m).
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:29 pm

That's fine but you see my point. I just think a time frame (doesn't have to be 24 hours, maybe 48 or longer) should come into play where valid bids can be accepted. It takes away the issues of you not being able to get on and brings about a fairness across the board. Came make switch mid season but something which i feel should be looked at in the summer.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:37 pm

Certainly we can look in the summer mate, am always happy to have a review of the game rules and see what everyone wants to do then.
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Post by stnick88 Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:46 pm

anyone want to take a punt on hendrie fourie? obviously lacking form due to long term injury but if he gets back fit he is a class act.

looking for an EQ hooker as Chris is destroying Lindsay week in week out!

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:55 pm

Sorry Nick! Sure I saw that Rob Hawkins was available from somewhere.

Might have Rob Webber available - but not sure!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 05 Dec 2012, 12:55 pm

Is there going to be another transfer window before the summer?

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Post by Guest Wed 05 Dec 2012, 1:00 pm

Just sold Jsd. It was emotional !!

Sorry about the figallo thing Steve I have been had by the 24 hour thing myself.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 05 Dec 2012, 1:02 pm

its fine. I owe you one for the Santiago Cordero issue in the summer so won't drive price up or try to raise funds to outbid

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 05 Dec 2012, 1:17 pm

There will be anopther window just before the 6 Nations.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 05 Dec 2012, 1:18 pm

I will be offline now until this evening when I will look at all bids and get everything that I can up to date.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 05 Dec 2012, 1:29 pm

I have just laughed my socks off at Mick Cleary's Lions team in the telegraph.

It is

1. Corbs
2. Youngs
3. Cole
4. Launch
5. Parling
6. Wood
7. Robshaw
8. Heaslip
9. Youngs
10. Sexton
11. Gilroy
12. Barrit
13. Manu
14. Visser
15. Halfpenny

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Post by Guest Wed 05 Dec 2012, 4:55 pm

Steven jones had Jsd in his and did not even take dan cole or tommy bowe on tour

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Post by Guest Wed 05 Dec 2012, 4:57 pm

That cleary side is dreadful. We have one game so to pick that many English men is ridiculous

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Post by CJB Wed 05 Dec 2012, 5:48 pm

Lads, got about £10-14m to spend if anyone is looking to raise funds

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 05 Dec 2012, 6:58 pm

For those who haven't seen his try yet, check this out from Elliot Daly against Exeter - the boy has serious wheels!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UvvXM3boQAY

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 05 Dec 2012, 10:16 pm

Following players are available:

Werner Kruger - £4 million
Butch James - £4 million
Matt Smith - £4 million
Luke Fitzgerald - £4 million
Andrew Trimble - £8 million
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Post by stnick88 Thu 06 Dec 2012, 8:55 am

before I release, does anywant want one on of Fourie, Sackey, Hooper, Beauxis for a cheap deal?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 06 Dec 2012, 11:24 am

is it sunday night foreigns close?

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 06 Dec 2012, 11:34 am

See Cooper's about to do a u-turn
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 06 Dec 2012, 11:35 am

Never expected him to leave.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 06 Dec 2012, 5:25 pm

I've got John Barclay available if anybody is after a top 7, not looking for a great amount

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 06 Dec 2012, 9:50 pm

sorry to pester Pete but what does the window close?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 06 Dec 2012, 9:55 pm

Last bid must be in by 12;00 (midday) on Monday.
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Post by prop_lyd Thu 06 Dec 2012, 10:44 pm

Great win for Warriors, Ceri Jones hard done by.......
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Post by Driver Thu 06 Dec 2012, 10:54 pm

Interesting from the Boks

Saturday, June 8 (Mbombela Stadium): Scotland v Samoa; Springboks v Italy
Saturday, June 15 (Kings Park): Samoa v Italy; South Africa v Scotland
Saturday, June 22 (Loftus Versfeld): Team 3 v Team 4 ; Team 1 v Team 2

Replacing there end of year series
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Post by Driver Thu 06 Dec 2012, 11:11 pm

Why did it take Perpinguan 66 mins to get Schuster on? Would surely start with your best scrummaging prop against Euan Murrey.

The Tongan lad looks powerful in loose but is dog s hit in the scrum
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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 06 Dec 2012, 11:28 pm

Taumalolo a good scrumager and a much stronger option than Schuster.

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