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Post by maestegmafia Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:29 pm

First topic message reminder :

So this week saw the fans calls for players unused the week before who are in form this season answered and we lost to Samoa, we also lost more players to injury.

So what next...?

Wales offered little in impetus yet again. Few of the form players made a difference against Samoa. Wales have to make a massive improvement in every aspect of their game for next weeks match vs the ABs but what are your suggestions...???

Wales team:

Leigh Halfpenny; Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North; Rhys Priestland, Mike Phillips; Paul James, Matthew Rees, Aaron Jarvis, Bradley Davies, Luke Charteris, Ryan Jones, Sam Warburton (captain), Toby Faletau

Replacements:

Ken Owens, Gethin Jenkins, Scott Andrews, Aaron Shingler, Justin Tipuric, Tavis Knoyle, James Hook, Scott Williams


New Zealand team:
Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Julian Savea, Daniel Carter, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw, Liam Messam, Sam Whitelock, Luke Romano, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Tony Woodcock.

Replacements:
Dane Coles, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Brodie Retallick, Victor Vito, Piri Weepu, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith.


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Post by wales606 Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:02 pm

Preistand kicks dead form a kickable penalty again

That is really dire, pretty close to the worst flyhalf performance
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:02 pm

God Wales were looking good at times but some of these mistakes ...its like SA

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Post by Hood83 Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:02 pm

Oh my God. Priestland, what a numpty

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Post by wales606 Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:03 pm

Why did Faletau try to pop that up. Stupid.
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Post by Pot Hale Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:03 pm

Dave. wrote:Now, sorry if this has been answered earlier, but is it possible for Wales to fall out of the top 8 and for Samoa to get in - and if so, how? Thanks!

Go look here : https://www.606v2.com/t37299-irb-world-rankings
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:03 pm

Good break from Davies. Priestland is snuffing out attacking opportunities with reckless abandon.

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:04 pm

At least we're trying things, which we didn't in the last 2 games. We're going for chip kicks, cross field kicks, inside breaks. However, our handling is woeful.

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Post by eirebilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:04 pm

Got to love second row scrum feeds Wink
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Post by Dave. Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:05 pm

Pot Hale wrote:
Dave. wrote:Now, sorry if this has been answered earlier, but is it possible for Wales to fall out of the top 8 and for Samoa to get in - and if so, how? Thanks!

Go look here : https://www.606v2.com/t37299-irb-world-rankings

Yeah, found that thread just there! Really helpful thread - thanks! thumbsup

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Post by glamorganalun Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:05 pm

Poor, Poor kicking

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Post by eirebilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:05 pm

Thats superb play by the AB's
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:07 pm

16 - 0 and there is nothing between the teams, long long 2nd half for Wales!!

Ive actually turned my TV off twice, but had to turn it back on!!

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Post by Looseheaded Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:07 pm

BREAKING NEWS!

BBC Sport announce discovery of Rhys Priestland's Kiwi father.

"This explains his performance" States Gatland from the Coach's dugout.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20455372

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Post by eirebilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:08 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:16 - 0 and there is nothing between the teams, long long 2nd half for Wales!!

Ive actually turned my TV off twice, but had to turn it back on!!

There is really. The Welsh have massive issues with handling and a 10 thats not doing his job. Thats the difference right there Sad
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:08 pm

Another joke of a decision!! Isn't a WC enough to be handed to NZ on a plate???

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Post by wales606 Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:09 pm

0 - 21

Awful defence
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:09 pm

Game well and truly over!!

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Post by AFewTooManyKnocks Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:09 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Another joke of a decision!! Isn't a WC enough to be handed to NZ on a plate???

Do you actually ever watch rugby? The guys arm was on the ground, hence not supporting his weight. Penalty, simple

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Post by disneychilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:09 pm

Teabag strikes again!!!!!!

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:10 pm

Alright I saw the replay too, from the other side the elbow wasnt visible ok!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm

Wales just didnt even try there...that was poor

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Post by AFewTooManyKnocks Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Alright I saw the replay too, from the other side the elbow wasnt visible ok!

Fair play thumbsup

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm

Wtf is Jonathan Davies on about (and Bluesman on this thread) "nothing between the sides"??? The differences you could write a book about. Stupid, one eyed idiots.

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Post by wales606 Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.
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Post by eirebilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm

Game well and truely over now.

Still really upset that neither Joubert or his assistents saw Andrew Hore's cheap shot.

That said, even with 14 men, the AB's are damned hard to beat.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm

The more I see the Hore incident the more angry I get, if those roles were reversed we woulve got 2 red cards!!

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Post by Pot Hale Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:11 pm

Tekori gets a second try for Samoa

Fra 10 -14 Samoa
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:12 pm

No bluesman, it's not enough. We want all your eligible mothers and daughters as well.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:13 pm

Griff wrote:Wtf is Jonathan Davies on about (and Bluesman on this thread) "nothing between the sides"??? The differences you could write a book about. Stupid, one eyed idiots.

+1 makes himself look stupid.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:15 pm

17 missed tackles Shocked

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Post by flyhalffactory Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:15 pm

wales606 wrote:The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.


Give it a break you are like a broken record Broken Record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick

Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries
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Post by Hood83 Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:16 pm

Inverdale trying to turn it into a 'Aren't the ABs just dirty?' - Guscott to his credit shut it down

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Post by eirebilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:16 pm

I am unbiased in this but i dont think that Joubert has covered himself in glory at all. I have been confused about many of his decisions.

Man Zinzan is looking old. I really loved watching him back in the day, truely a superb player.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:16 pm

Guscott and Inverdale doing their best to feed AWOP in the half time analysis...he'll love that

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Post by Morgannwg Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:17 pm

Seeing as Bradley is a 2nd row, shouldn't he have been able to play on after walking off the cheap shot? Toughen yourself up ffs.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:18 pm

Can anyone whos Welsh understand a word that Adam Jones is saying?

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:18 pm

1/2p makes the decision to kick

Totally incorrect, the decisions to go to the corner are clearly a masterplan by the management!!

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Post by disneychilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:19 pm

14 missed tackles to 2 though. Joubert's been biased but if Wales aren't going to tackle then Wayne Barnes wouldn't make the difference up.

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Post by Guest Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:19 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:
wales606 wrote:The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.


Give it a break you are like a broken record Broken Record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick

Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Disagree. The captain decides whether to go for the posts or touch. The kicker will decide if it's in their range or not, but the 2 examples today were tactical and therefore the captains decision (or the coach's pre game directive). Why would halfpenny choose not to kick those when he kicks them from inside his own half normally? Unless the team is directed not to kick it.

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Post by Morgannwg Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:20 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:
wales606 wrote:The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.


Give it a break you are like a broken record Broken Record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:21 pm

disneychilly wrote:14 missed tackles to 2 though. Joubert's been biased but if Wales aren't going to tackle then Wayne Barnes wouldn't make the difference up.

Agree. Not that many bad decisions, maybe a forward pass missed. The score line is all our own fault. Blaming the ref is futile.

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Post by eirebilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:21 pm

Samoa leading France Shocked

They really are coming along nicely
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Post by AFewTooManyKnocks Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:22 pm

Griff wrote:
disneychilly wrote:14 missed tackles to 2 though. Joubert's been biased but if Wales aren't going to tackle then Wayne Barnes wouldn't make the difference up.

Agree. Not that many bad decisions, maybe a forward pass missed. The score line is all our own fault. Blaming the ref is futile.

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Post by GavinDragon Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:23 pm

Griff wrote:
disneychilly wrote:14 missed tackles to 2 though. Joubert's been biased but if Wales aren't going to tackle then Wayne Barnes wouldn't make the difference up.

Agree. Not that many bad decisions, maybe a forward pass missed. The score line is all our own fault. Blaming the ref is futile.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:23 pm

Agree. Not that many bad decisions, maybe a forward pass missed. The score line is all our own fault. Blaming the ref is futile.

Ye how dare Bradley throw his face into Hores forearm, but the missed tackle is the big issue of the half Laugh

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Post by majesticimperialman Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:23 pm

Wales. You must be hurting right now. what was it 1.5 minutes in and 2 injuries + Jamie Roberts getting injured. And Rys Priestland. Wales must surely find/ have some one better to take over.

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Post by eirebilly Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:23 pm

Damn that McCaw is good. He is everywhere
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Post by glamorganalun Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:23 pm

This could be 50+ as predicted, the main difference between the sides is Preistland and the ref.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:24 pm

Joubetr keeping the scoreline ticking over...

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Post by Looseheaded Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:25 pm

So this is what it must have felt like as a welsh fan in the 90s.

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