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The Azzrentice Week 3
Task 3
The FA has recently opened St George's Park, England's new National Football Centre and home to 24 National teams and FA Learning (the FA’s educational department). St. George’s Park will provide a platform for the communication of The Future Game philosophy, which outlines a vision for the development of English football.
Your task is simple: give me your top three priorities for developing the English game. Whether it's changing the coaching at youth levels or making all stadiums standing-only, I want three top changes you would make through St George's Park that would have a long-term positive effect on the fortunes of out national side.
The deadline for this is 2359 on Thursday 6 December 2012 (my Birthday!).
Teams need to be mixed up following Olly's departure. So they are as follows:
Team Scholes:
Trebs
Zebs - CAPTAIN - FIRED
Marky
Afro - FIRED
Team Wilshere:
Viva - FIRED
Hero
Soddy
Gregers - CAPTAIN
Good luck - may the force be with you. Please ask any questions you need to.
The FA has recently opened St George's Park, England's new National Football Centre and home to 24 National teams and FA Learning (the FA’s educational department). St. George’s Park will provide a platform for the communication of The Future Game philosophy, which outlines a vision for the development of English football.
Your task is simple: give me your top three priorities for developing the English game. Whether it's changing the coaching at youth levels or making all stadiums standing-only, I want three top changes you would make through St George's Park that would have a long-term positive effect on the fortunes of out national side.
The deadline for this is 2359 on Thursday 6 December 2012 (my Birthday!).
Teams need to be mixed up following Olly's departure. So they are as follows:
Team Scholes:
Trebs
Zebs - CAPTAIN - FIRED
Marky
Afro - FIRED
Team Wilshere:
Viva - FIRED
Hero
Soddy
Gregers - CAPTAIN
Good luck - may the force be with you. Please ask any questions you need to.
Last edited by Azzy Mahmood on Fri Dec 07, 2012 11:31 am; edited 2 times in total
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GSC will shadow Team Scholes, and I will shadow Team Wilshere.
Thanks to GSC for helping out.
Thanks to GSC for helping out.
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- TEAM SCHOLES SUBMISSION:
In the absence of ZZZ and Afro, myself and Marky have read through the Future Game philosophy. In this, it has two aspects of the game which need to be looked at. The coaching side of things, and the playing side of things. Using this brought us two recommendations and we have used our own knowledge to come up with a third key point. In addition to this we would like to wish Sir Azzy many happy returns on a Birthday!
1. Improve coaching in the country.
Many young coaches do not need to do much in order to be coach youngsters. Only a basic knowledge of technique is required and the only theory they get is 'Emergency First Aid' and 'Children Ensuring Safety in Football'
Obviously both of these are important, but we want to give coaches more training in tactics. The coaches should have a better knowledge of the game, which wuld result in them being able to teach the youngsters more capably and give our young players a better 'footballing brain.' Many youngsters have came through and are currently playing in the Premier League, but make the wrong choices. With a better footballing brain, they could be world class.
2. Focus on the possession rather than winning.
Many games, say at an U11 level, are being played in a way where winning is everything. In the Spanish model, keeping the ball and possession is seen as a better skill and more important than results. The mentality of keeping the ball would stick with these players throughout and has worked wonderfully in Spain where they regularly dominate possession.
England had less than half of the possesion in every Euro 2012 game, except Sweden (52%) which proves the point. England have always had problems retaining the ball. These sorts of activities would encourage ball retention.
3. Increase the attention to the Youth Games
At the moment, nobody has the rights to show the Professional Development League. We would like to offer these out to make it available to more fans. A weekly highlights show would give fans to see the brightest young talent coming out of English football. We would like this to be aired in a morning when more youngsters will be watching, on a channel such as ITV4, BBC3. With snippets of coaching advice from Premier League coaches and tactics also included.
We also want to increase attendances to Youth Games. There are two ways we would like to do this:
Better advertising would improve attendances for youth games. Stuff like "See the next generation's Wayne Rooney/Gareth Bale/Jack Wilshere/Joe Hart/John Terry/Steven Gerrard" would tempt some fans young and old, and when the prices are so cheap already, its a chance for a dad to take his children to football for that family tradition, something that is at risk of dying as it is.
We also would like to get a couple of players to attend each youth game. During the Olympics, Joe Hart and some of the Man City players came to Old Trafford to watch. If a couple of players would be present as a meet and greet with some of the fans, signing autographs and the like. Hundreds if not thousands more people through the gates watching and publicising youth team football.
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Also, I will not be around at all tomorrow, ironically because I'm working at the U21 FA Cup
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- Team Wilshere Submission:
To begin with we tried to narrow it down to three ways in which we could improve the state of the English game. It soon became apparent that changing how youth football is coached and how youth games are done needed to be changed. Hero with his connection to the youth game through his son was the best placed to comment on this:Hero wrote:
Immediately my thoughts on this is at grassroots level, the only way to achieve any form of LONG term improvement is to address the issue at the outset and the current system that is in place in England has failed generation after generation.
My son this morning was meant to be playing an under 7 game v local rivals slight bit of frost and the game is off, this will probably repeat for most Saturdays now until February, that's 2 months of no football. The pitch our boys play on is a disagree which every home game I have to arrive 2 hours early with a bucket and pitchfork trying to sort out puddles that have settled on it. Huge investment needs to be made on quality all weather pitches for kids, and I stress on this for kids, because otherwise the 5 a side adult teams quickly pay more than the kids clubs can and take all the best pitches.
The next I'd mention is the recent FA change to 5 a side for U7s and U8s, 7 a side then up to u11s 9 a side to u13s and full sides above. I'd like to see
this improved on even more, it's finally a good step in a long need direction as for years at an early age it was 7 a side which sapped any potential skill being learnt and resulted in 12 kids kicking each other around a ball until it broke free.
I'd like to see 4 a side for the initial 2 years without keepers, decrease the goal and pitch size further and this encourages individuals to move with ball at feet, be aware more of team mates in space and grows their game a lot more. Nextimprovement is an even simpler one. We now at our training have a real quality instructor for the kids who is UEFA trained and very much follows the methods in Holland & Spain for early years so we count ourselves lucky. The first thing he does every week is to ensure from the moment each kid arrives that they have an individual ball and they spend as much of the hour training with that ball. Far too many coaches have kids running up and down, barely touching a ball for the first 20 minutes, then standing in line take shots so being idle and not doing anything and then a brief game at the end. The actual contact the child has with a football in a normal training is so small in most FA training sessions is minute and that really needs to be addressed.
In summary: Basically more funds aimed at the cradle, reduced team sizes to improve
individual skill and always training with a ball to improve technique
We then turned to the psychology of the British footballer, this was something that Viva inparticular felt strongly about.VivaPaulScholes wrote:
Since I've been watching International Football I've noticed England do not have the physical ability to compete with the best teams and also the Psychology side of the game they lack which is less docummented. Gaining an advantage off the pitch is just as important as gaining an advantage on the pitch. The "This Is Anfield" is psychological warfare getting to the opponenets before the game.
Doctors need to be bought in to speak to players, help them get over the barriers they fear, we need to get to the root cause of why our players freeze at the top level. I feel its because they haven't had much experience at a younger age or the level they played at was not intense enough. The bridge between the reserves and first team is massive some players mentaly may not be ready for it which can cause them to slow down in thier progress.
In summary: Increasing the psychological presence a player has, so he can perform at the top level as soon as he is able to do so talent wise. This will also hopefully allow players to be more grounded as well as allowing players to open up as to any mental problems they may have.
This in turn fell in nicely with the ideas raised with Sod about the national idenity needing to be strengthened and making young players feel that playing for their country (and not receiving a huge paycheck) is the biggest achievement that a footballer can have.sodhat wrote:
Since the last notable success for England at international level, on home turf in 1996, there has been a growing feeling of playing for England being a burden and a curse. It brings media attention to your front door, public scrutiny to your play, and a weight of responsibility that failure is not going to be tolerated. It seems that gone are the days that the pinnacle of a career was being in the white of England, and that this is now replaced by playing in the Champions League or earning big money transfers.
On top of that England is a diverse society, and it's getting ever tougher to have one single culture pervade all the towns and cities. Kids playing football are not necessarily dreaming about pulling on the three lions, but about playing for the countries of their fathers, mothers, and grandparents - because these are the places they feel connected to culturally. We can't bring about a cultural shift for the entire nation, that is down to politicians (aside from being improbable, bordering on impossible); but we can use football and history as a motivator for young players still unsure of where their international aspirations may lie.
The idea is a reproduction of an Argenitinian initiative, started by Jose Pekerman, who noted that a large proportion of young Argentine footballers were emigrating abroad at ever younger ages. The fear was that they would forget the homeland and naturalise for other nations. To combat this, he made sure all Argentinian youth sides had an element of classroom study and lectures on the history of Argentina and its football.
I suggest that the best ideas are usually stolen. So we are pinching this. We would propose that all players that come up to play in the England youth system are entered into compulsory studies about football, its origins, the history of England's football team, as well as the ethical side of the game. The hope is that we can not only persuade youngsters that it's an honour and a matter of pride to represent England, but also to drill home the important principles of fair play and ethical behaviour. St George's Park seems the perfect place for such studies and lectures to take place, and if successful, it
can be opened to wider audiences than just those in the youth squads ofthe nation.
In summary: We raise the feeling that playing for your country is the biggest accolade that a player can have, looking at other sports whether it is an Australian donning the Baggy Green or a New Zealander pulling on an All Blacks shirt it really means something to them. We need our young players to want bleed for their countries.
In conclusion of these Lord Azzy we have a trident to attack the British game with: Changing youth development and ensuring that kids spend as much time as possible with a football at their feet. Making sure that players are as mentally ready as they are physically. And finally reinstalling a sense of national pride.
Another part of the game that we considered was the Woman's Game. We didn't include this in our main three as the task did not mention it by name, however we do feel that getting more girls interested in football would allow us to be a beacon of Womens football which is something that we believe would allow the image of the game to improve. By looking at Cricket where there has been huge success in having a womens game for free on the same ticket as the mens match would ensure that as many people as possible to enjoy the female sport as well. Hopefully this would mean that more women and girls would start attending matches. We could play on how the England ladies haven't been beaten in a qualifier for 10 years, and install this as a source of national pride as well as how this won't be able to continue if we don't get more ladies and girls interested in the game.
So there you have it Lord Azzy, Team Wilshere's submission in all its glory. We welcome your questions and wish you a very Happy Birthday!
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Azzrentice will start at 1030. Well done to both teams, particularly Team Scholes' two members
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Morning Lord Azzy
Morning the rest of you cocksuckers
(please don't count that against me, I was joking)
Morning the rest of you cocksuckers
(please don't count that against me, I was joking)
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Morning.azzy
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Morning Lord Azzy. Hope you had a terrific birthday.
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Your task was a very simple one this week. All you needed to do was give me three ideas on how best to improve the English game.
Let's look at how you did.
Team Wilshere - your captain was Gregers. Good captain? Does he know his tiki-taka from his tactics? I want to hear from you all about Gregers' leadership, who did what, and what you think of your teammates' contributions. You have until 1055.
Let's look at how you did.
Team Wilshere - your captain was Gregers. Good captain? Does he know his tiki-taka from his tactics? I want to hear from you all about Gregers' leadership, who did what, and what you think of your teammates' contributions. You have until 1055.
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Gregers was a good captain, he got the page up, opened the floor and then selected those he thought best. Everyone was then tasked clearly with what they had to do and the final presentation was well constructed. Importantly he also made clear who did what!
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By the way, I'm out of office from around 11:00ish so may not be around for the second half of this.
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I think with a little encourangement and pushing Gregers did well, I just feel that he didn't really question us and took our first answers.
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I thought he was adequate but not exceptional, he wasn't about really until Tuesday to participate which was 4 days in to the task by which point I'd completed my section and despite instructions and warnings he still went ahead and added a 4th section about the female game that IMO opinion would have been better spent concentrating on the three points at hand.
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Thank you Team Wilshere.
Team Scholes - your captain was Zebs. Good Team Captain? I want to hear from the two of you by 1105 about what happened on this task.
Team Scholes - your captain was Zebs. Good Team Captain? I want to hear from the two of you by 1105 about what happened on this task.
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As you probably already know, Zebs didn't show up at all in the duration of the task, and while Trebs and I opened up the debate to prolong waiting for Zebs, it was left to Trebs and I to cobble something together yesterday just to make sure we even had a submission!
Zebs as a captain for this task: 0/10
Zebs as a captain for this task: 0/10
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Zebs didn't show up so me and marky showed iniyiative and worked together.
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Thank you to both teams. I've made my decision.
Team Wilshere - you were crippled by not receiving contributions from two team members. Before we go any further, I can tell you this:
Zebs - you're fired.
Afro - you're fired.
I appreciate you getting a submission together with half the people that the other team had. Your big plus point was referring to the Future Game Philosophy, which was crucial in this task.
You did however refer to me as 'Sir' Azzy, which I did not appreciate.
Team Scholes - thank you for your birthday wishes. You clearly played to people's strengths in this task. Hero did an okay job explaining his theories, Viva put together a small piece on psychology that didn't really solve the problem (if there even is one), and Soddy's piece on nationalism was okay. The bit about ladies football is worth exploring by the FA.
Based on this task, and the contributions from a team of 2 vs a team of 4, my decision is this:
Team Wilshere...
Team Wilshere - you were crippled by not receiving contributions from two team members. Before we go any further, I can tell you this:
Zebs - you're fired.
Afro - you're fired.
I appreciate you getting a submission together with half the people that the other team had. Your big plus point was referring to the Future Game Philosophy, which was crucial in this task.
You did however refer to me as 'Sir' Azzy, which I did not appreciate.
Team Scholes - thank you for your birthday wishes. You clearly played to people's strengths in this task. Hero did an okay job explaining his theories, Viva put together a small piece on psychology that didn't really solve the problem (if there even is one), and Soddy's piece on nationalism was okay. The bit about ladies football is worth exploring by the FA.
Based on this task, and the contributions from a team of 2 vs a team of 4, my decision is this:
Team Wilshere...
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Darn, I didn't see that coming.
I would have had time to contribute next week as well
I would have had time to contribute next week as well
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You have lost this task. Based on:
- it being 4 vs 2
- the other team reading the Future Game Philosophy
- their bit on the Development League, which is a good idea
- parts of your submission not being up to scratch.
Team Scholes - back to the house you two. Your treat is to write me a 100-word essay on why Robin van Persie's effort was NOT over the line.
Team Wilshere - start your fighting now. At 1130 I will fire one of you.
What I liked:
1. Good detail on youth coaching
2. National identity
3. Ladies football
What I didn't like:
1. Psychology
2. "We can't bring about a cultural shift for the entire nation, that is down to politicians (aside from being improbable, bordering on impossible); but we can use football and history as a motivator for young players still unsure of where their international aspirations may lie." - this is tripe, football can bring about a cultural shift within the game itself. This was your chance to show how it can be done.
3. If we implemented these three ideas, would English football be better off in 6-8 years' time?
4. Did Gregers actually do anything?
At 1130, it's sacking time.
- it being 4 vs 2
- the other team reading the Future Game Philosophy
- their bit on the Development League, which is a good idea
- parts of your submission not being up to scratch.
Team Scholes - back to the house you two. Your treat is to write me a 100-word essay on why Robin van Persie's effort was NOT over the line.
Team Wilshere - start your fighting now. At 1130 I will fire one of you.
What I liked:
1. Good detail on youth coaching
2. National identity
3. Ladies football
What I didn't like:
1. Psychology
2. "We can't bring about a cultural shift for the entire nation, that is down to politicians (aside from being improbable, bordering on impossible); but we can use football and history as a motivator for young players still unsure of where their international aspirations may lie." - this is tripe, football can bring about a cultural shift within the game itself. This was your chance to show how it can be done.
3. If we implemented these three ideas, would English football be better off in 6-8 years' time?
4. Did Gregers actually do anything?
At 1130, it's sacking time.
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1) Psychology was Viva's idea, as Team Leader I agreed with it as I think it is true that the players coming through quite often are not prepared for the pressure of matches/constant media scrutiny.
2) I disagree on that Lord Azzy, the suggestions we put forward were to benefit football. Causing a cultural shift is nigh on impossible, as history shows us!
3) I believe that implementing these ideas would allow English Football to improve in 5 years time. Especially on the youth development we put into practice.
4) I can't answer that as it would be biased
2) I disagree on that Lord Azzy, the suggestions we put forward were to benefit football. Causing a cultural shift is nigh on impossible, as history shows us!
3) I believe that implementing these ideas would allow English Football to improve in 5 years time. Especially on the youth development we put into practice.
4) I can't answer that as it would be biased
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1. Psychology
Could have been better developed, but the idea behind it was sound I thought.
2. "We can't bring about a cultural shift for the entire nation, that is down to politicians (aside from being improbable, bordering on impossible); but we can use football and history as a motivator for young players still unsure of where their international aspirations may lie." - this is tripe, football can bring about a cultural shift within the game itself. This was your chance to show how it can be done.
I fail to see your point. That statement was about how different cultures aren't likely to be bound by football alone. It can help, but then it's explained how we would unite youngsters playing the game and how they would be motivated to play for England, of how we can make them feel an identity. That was the remit of the task, who cares if I want to have muslims and jews holding hands and skipping across Regents Park?
3. If we implemented these three ideas, would English football be better off in 6-8 years' time?
Possibly not, but then I suppose it's a long term commitment. I think coaching would have quicker impact.
4. Did Gregers actually do anything?
A bit harsh of a question, he put the piece together and added his blurb parts. He also directed us to do our individual bits.
Could have been better developed, but the idea behind it was sound I thought.
2. "We can't bring about a cultural shift for the entire nation, that is down to politicians (aside from being improbable, bordering on impossible); but we can use football and history as a motivator for young players still unsure of where their international aspirations may lie." - this is tripe, football can bring about a cultural shift within the game itself. This was your chance to show how it can be done.
I fail to see your point. That statement was about how different cultures aren't likely to be bound by football alone. It can help, but then it's explained how we would unite youngsters playing the game and how they would be motivated to play for England, of how we can make them feel an identity. That was the remit of the task, who cares if I want to have muslims and jews holding hands and skipping across Regents Park?
3. If we implemented these three ideas, would English football be better off in 6-8 years' time?
Possibly not, but then I suppose it's a long term commitment. I think coaching would have quicker impact.
4. Did Gregers actually do anything?
A bit harsh of a question, he put the piece together and added his blurb parts. He also directed us to do our individual bits.
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Tell me what you did then Gregers - was it just to agree to the three parts, then add on an unneccessary bit at the end? Or did you push your team, question them on what they wrote?
Viva's piece on psychology was poor:
"Gaining an advantage off the pitch is just as important as gaining an advantage on the pitch. The "This Is Anfield" is psychological warfare getting to the opponenets before the game."
You have more chance of achieving a cultural shift in football than of bringing psychological warfare to international football.
Viva's piece on psychology was poor:
"Gaining an advantage off the pitch is just as important as gaining an advantage on the pitch. The "This Is Anfield" is psychological warfare getting to the opponenets before the game."
You have more chance of achieving a cultural shift in football than of bringing psychological warfare to international football.
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Gregers has to go he was poor leader, didnt expand things went for the first one he heard. If he was on more maybe we would have time to explore other venues but ht was happy to go with the firts thing we said. Poor leadership
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In regards to the point about if it will benefit the game in 6-8 years time, then the answer is probably no, this is about changing the complete mindset of how our children are taught so were talking the kids who are currently under 8 being the ones predominately targeted, from that then you're looking at 10 years minimum.
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Once it became clear that we had, what I believed to be, three strong ideas I then asked for paragraphs on all of these. If any of them had not been what I was looking for I would have mentioned it there. I was tempted to extend on Viva's bit but felt this wouldn't have come across well given that I had agreed with it.
The "unnecessary bit" is subjective as I felt that it added to the piece and showed that we had considered something outside of the box.
For me Viva should be the one to go as his contribution was the part you didn't like and a tumbleweed smiley
The "unnecessary bit" is subjective as I felt that it added to the piece and showed that we had considered something outside of the box.
For me Viva should be the one to go as his contribution was the part you didn't like and a tumbleweed smiley
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I've made my decision.
Gregers - you could have done this better. The three pieces were written but not quizzed, expanded, improved.
Hero - you wrote a good piece, as I'd expect. Was it too predictable? Were you the 'safe' option?
Viva - very disappointing piece, as the master of psychological warfare against horses of various sizes I expected better.
Soddy - nationalism is a difficult topic, you were going to lose regardless.
My decision is this...
Gregers - you could have done this better. The three pieces were written but not quizzed, expanded, improved.
Hero - you wrote a good piece, as I'd expect. Was it too predictable? Were you the 'safe' option?
Viva - very disappointing piece, as the master of psychological warfare against horses of various sizes I expected better.
Soddy - nationalism is a difficult topic, you were going to lose regardless.
My decision is this...
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Hero, you're safe. Just. Step out of your comfort zone next time okay?
Soddy - you're safe too, as you just cannot win with a piece like that. Good job on attempting to cover it.
Soddy - you're safe too, as you just cannot win with a piece like that. Good job on attempting to cover it.
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You did an average job as PM, considering the resources to hand...
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The tumbleweed was to spur on my teammates as you seemed to lack the leadership quality and went missing more then Henry in cup finals.
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The boss is out for a lot of next week, so was hoping to squeeze through, ready to put in a real effort next week.
I am prepared to sell my time and efforts to the team that bids the highest
I am prepared to sell my time and efforts to the team that bids the highest
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No you're out of the competition Afro you can't lady of loose morals yourself.
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All I know is in the past two finals of the apprentice I was on the winning side because of my contribution to the side we won. Ask Afro he'll tell you how I helped Gio thrash him in the final. Sweet victory, tasted like breats milk with a hint of honey.
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Yes, I can. Where does it say I can't.
Viva has lost early in both Apprentices and then coincidentally been on the winning side in the final both times. Both finals have come down to one thing, and I cannot remember Viva's involvement in those particular elements
Viva has lost early in both Apprentices and then coincidentally been on the winning side in the final both times. Both finals have come down to one thing, and I cannot remember Viva's involvement in those particular elements
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Afro, it wouldn't have taken much for you to make a minor/minimal contribution this week IMO, but I do think the sack was harsh.
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I had quit last Thursday, so it would have been a bit unfair to suddenly change my mind and take part.
But in truth, I couldn't manage my runner things, let alone Azzrentice, and that is likely to be the case the week after next as well.
I did think about adding my two pennies worth yesterday evening and popped on to offer to type stuff up etc, but you were done by then.
But in truth, I couldn't manage my runner things, let alone Azzrentice, and that is likely to be the case the week after next as well.
I did think about adding my two pennies worth yesterday evening and popped on to offer to type stuff up etc, but you were done by then.
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What do you mean? The first final was doing the greatest English XI that Gio won and I did 9 out of the 11 players for him which clearly shows I smashed it.
The next one was doing an all time great XI and while the other team went for the obvious Cafu I made sure that we went for Carlos Alberto who is regarded the best Brazilian FB few others players too.
I am a big game player I have no time for the smaller rounds.
The next one was doing an all time great XI and while the other team went for the obvious Cafu I made sure that we went for Carlos Alberto who is regarded the best Brazilian FB few others players too.
I am a big game player I have no time for the smaller rounds.
Re: The Azzrentice Week 3
Azzy shouldn't really have put me in a team when he knew I couldn't add anything. It made it lopsided
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The other team went for Thuram instead of Carlos Alberto btw. The deciding factor was Baresi v Moore though
Gio won because he had Matthews ahead of Beckham - and it was Fan and Gio that championed Matthews.
Gio won because he had Matthews ahead of Beckham - and it was Fan and Gio that championed Matthews.
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I was in one final, and can still see the final task of the last Apprentice in the admin section
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