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The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:42 pm
Week 4
Myself and Lady Viva have this week won £100m on the Euromillions lottery. After much discussion, we have decided to keep £50m for personal use, and to use the remaining £50m for an exciting business opportunity.
We want to own our own football club, and take it to the Premier League. Your task is three-fold:
- Choose a current non-league team to takeover, giving consideration to the fans, the town, and the history of the club;
- Plot our future course - stadium improvements, fan buy-in, sponsorship deals, player purchases, promotion planning etc;
- Come up with a club ethos - how will our club be known around the world in its principles and style? Factor in expectation of the players, the media, playing and coaching styles etc
Remember to cost up all your parts of the submission so we know how you're spending our money.
I realise this could be a HUGE task, so I will take that into account if you don't write 6 pages of text.
The winner will be the team that comes up with the more exciting portfolio. From the losing team, one of you will be fired.
Team Scholes:
Hero - CAPTAIN - FIRED
Trebs - FIRED
Gregers - IN THE FINAL
Team Wilshere:
Soddy - CAPTAIN - IN THE FINAL
Marky - IN THE FINAL
Team Wilshere may choose to ask for help from either GSC or Afro, their choice (and if GSC/Afro wish to do so). The remaining person will be my assistant for the week.
Questions when you're ready
Myself and Lady Viva have this week won £100m on the Euromillions lottery. After much discussion, we have decided to keep £50m for personal use, and to use the remaining £50m for an exciting business opportunity.
We want to own our own football club, and take it to the Premier League. Your task is three-fold:
- Choose a current non-league team to takeover, giving consideration to the fans, the town, and the history of the club;
- Plot our future course - stadium improvements, fan buy-in, sponsorship deals, player purchases, promotion planning etc;
- Come up with a club ethos - how will our club be known around the world in its principles and style? Factor in expectation of the players, the media, playing and coaching styles etc
Remember to cost up all your parts of the submission so we know how you're spending our money.
I realise this could be a HUGE task, so I will take that into account if you don't write 6 pages of text.
The winner will be the team that comes up with the more exciting portfolio. From the losing team, one of you will be fired.
Team Scholes:
Hero - CAPTAIN - FIRED
Trebs - FIRED
Gregers - IN THE FINAL
Team Wilshere:
Soddy - CAPTAIN - IN THE FINAL
Marky - IN THE FINAL
Team Wilshere may choose to ask for help from either GSC or Afro, their choice (and if GSC/Afro wish to do so). The remaining person will be my assistant for the week.
Questions when you're ready
Last edited by Azzy Mahmood on Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:24 am; edited 5 times in total
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Marky Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:33 am
Does it matter where in non-league the club currently are? There's a big difference between Conference/Blue Square Premier and County Leagues.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:30 am
Not at all Marky, that'll be your choice. Obviously your valuation of a Conference team would be higher than for a BSP side.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:36 am
Sorry mate, I missed thisGSC wrote:Who be I following
Please follow Team Wilshere
Task 5 will be lighter in terms of thought required. Give you guys a week off after such a difficult task.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Trebs Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:09 am
Hey,
After this week can we have a break till after New Year please as I won't be around?
After this week can we have a break till after New Year please as I won't be around?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:09 pm
Azzrentice reminder - deadline is 2359 tomorrow.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:09 pm
And yes, we can. We'll need it!onlytreblewinners wrote:Hey,
After this week can we have a break till after New Year please as I won't be around?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by sodhat Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:33 pm
Dear Lord Azzy,
Please find enclosed our submission for week 4 of The Azzrentice. Marky and I have enjoyed it immensely, and we hope you find it an enthralling read.
With compliments of the season,
Team Wilshere
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(most of those kisses are from Marky)
Please find enclosed our submission for week 4 of The Azzrentice. Marky and I have enjoyed it immensely, and we hope you find it an enthralling read.
- Spoiler:
- Team Selection: Chelmsford City
We selected Chelmsford City as a target for a takeover; our initial criteria behind selection was:
a) Has a catchment area, and no real huge rivals nearby
b) Has a stadium in a relatively undeveloped area so we can easily expand as necessary
c) Is in the conference north/south at least, so we don't have a million years to realise our goal
Chelmsford fit within 2 of these 3 criteria, and with the vast amount of greenspace around Chelmsford, as well as the money coming in, we believe a new stadium can be procured for the club.
The club is in the Conference South this season and after a 6th place finish last year are currently 6th once more, just outside the play-off places. This gives us confidence that promotion can be achieved quickly and we can progress the club.
Aside from Chelmsford, we also considered Darlington and Luton Town as alternative solutions. Darlington, while benefitting from already having a stadium in place, was considered a more marginal choice due to being in the 9th tier of the football pyramid. Luton was rejected because we hate Luton.
The Future Course
Stadium:
Our idea is to move Chelmsford to a new stadium in any number of the greenspaces around the city, and we would liaise with the council to find a suitable spot.
Our basis would be the Colchester United stadium built nearby in 2008, for an estimated cost of £14m. With inflation since then, and the use of rigorous tendering procedure, we believe we can create a 10,000 seat stadium with potential for expansion for an estimated £17m (assuming roughly 3% inflation over the 5 year period, and then a buffer). The potential for expansion is vital as we grow as a club.
In terms of payback on our investment we would also look to see if there are commercial opportunities with a new stadium. Be that by selling naming rights to a Chelmsford or Essex based business, or by the sale of retail space on the site of the stadium. We will explore this in detail with the council at the time of negotiation.
Fan buy-in:
Our first consideration was would the fans buy into the idea of being taken over by a multi-millionaire?
There would be plenty of skeptics at first, so something like regular open forums/Q&A sessions would help keep their mind at ease and get them on board, show them we're honest and open.
There are other things we can do to engender community spirit, like family days with the club, loyalty schemes, ticket deals, arranging travel for away days. One thing I am always taught in dealing with stakeholders is to keep them involved in the direction you're going. On this basis we would issue a regular newsletter via post or email (to be chosen by the individual) updated with information about the club and progress to meeting our aims. We need the fans on side to perform on the pitch, and to make money back.
Sponsorship deals:
We have already noted the potential for naming rights to our new stadium, which could prove lucrative. Starting where we are, we wouldn’t want a very long deal in that respect, because we’d grow in value as we progress up the league so perhaps an initial 3 year deal, to be retendered.
In terms of club sponsorship, we could look to local companies such as Britvic, who are headquartered in the city. Chelmsford is a growing business community with links to London by road and rail, so we believe we are an attractive proposition to sponsors. As well as that, it is a growing city in a population sense – housing developers should be interested in getting their names out there.
Player purchases:
We will seek to emulate Crawley Town somewhat, attracting very good players from League 2 or BSP with the higher wages we can now offer, and with them being of a League 2 standard they're superior to BSS players but also used to lower league football.
We won’t name names specifically yet – we believe the manager should do this. We will set the criteria though, and we will not overspend or stretch our budget too far.
Under the general theme of player purchases, we will seek to establish a youth team at the club. Essex and the surrounding areas are talent rich and there are plenty of places for us to look to unearth our own stars. We will employ youth scouts and look to build additional facilities with our stadium for a youth set up.
Youth prospects who have been “cut” by other clubs should be sought and given opportunities with us.
Promotion planning:
We have a 3 year promotion plan to League 2. If by that point we have not reached our aim, we will take a decision on the management and playing staff. That will depend on how close we have come however.
We are happy to retain current manager until he fails rather than rock the boat too much initially. Momentum seems to carry more weight down the divisions. Ideally we want to go up at the first attempt but if we can't we have to give the manager at least two seasons to move us up one division, with promotion to League 2 in season 3 a must. If after 2 years we remain in the Conference South the manager will be automatically removed.
How will our club be known around the world in its principles and style?
Playing Style:
Much of this will be down to the manager, but we will make clear our club wishes to be seen as more than a physical team. However, ultimately we are guided by results, and whilst we are down the divisions we will need to show adaptability and pull wins out regardless. This becomes more of an issue as we get more exposure as we move upwards – and we must also take into account that we want to draw fans in. Winning football is one way, but an element of entertainment must be brought in to our home games.
We will be known for playing good football but with the ability to get stuck in when necessary, when we are in control we keep the ball, tire out the opposition with our tidy possession and close control, but if we are chasing the game or if the conditions don't allow for that style of football (which is often the case with non-league football) we can adapt in personnel and style to ensure we get the win. In the early seasons, results are more important than style then we can build solid foundations once we are a League side.
The players will be expected to perform week in, week out, going undefeated is a very unlikely and unrealistic demand so we won’t be panicking if and when the blip comes along, but we would be signing players with the goal of promotion in mind, so if they don't perform they won't be kept on. One way to keep the players focused is to only offer one year contracts, from experience of non-league football, players on one year deals work hard all the way to the end of the season when they need to earn themselves another year's contract, their real life comes into it when there is a threat of unemployment/relocation. It's common knowledge that players on a two year deal at that level can rest on their laurels and as a result their performance levels can sub-consciously drop towards the end of a season if they have the following year secured. Obviously the exception to the rule is if we have a supremely talented player on our books.
Media Expectations:
The media would be expecting us to win promotion. Tags such as "moneybags" and "the Man City of non-league" would be applied to our club and it would be a bigger news story if we lose than if we win. The media would also be constantly speculating, whether its players linked with our club or speculation regarding the manager's position, stuff like this would be a hurdle but a hurdle we can overcome if the owners ignore the media speculation and allow the management to work to the best of their abilities.
Knowing the local media in Essex, it will likely generate plenty of interest locally, but I can’t imagine it driving the team to distraction. There have been precedents set with non-league teams coming into money and failing; we will need to work hard to not allow that to happen to us.
We will look to keep communication channels open to the media and have a friendly two way dialogue with them. It seems a simple premise, but good relations will help us in the long run, even if they will jump on us when we lose. With that in mind we will hire a PR consultancy to shape our media image.
Costs*:
Club purchase: it’s difficult to find a precedent to be honest; the club doesn’t own its own ground and assets seem low, so we’ll set aside £1.5m for this purpose.
Stadium: £20m (inc. architects, consultants, planning permissions)
Fan buy in (newsletters, fun days, travel etc): £500k
Players, wages and staff: £25m
Youth facilities: £2m
Media Consultancy: £1m (p/a)
Though player costs are at £25m, we wouldn't spend that immediately, it's simply what I believe is left over. That money will be spent wisely and a cash float remaining for any liabilities we face.
*All costs are estimates, mostly pulled out of my arse
With compliments of the season,
Team Wilshere
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(most of those kisses are from Marky)
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:10 am
Paddy Power latest odds on the Azzrentice:
Marky 1/4
Soddy 11/1
Here comes your latest bets, on your screen now:
Next batch of kisses: Marky 5/1, Soddy 1/100*
*if he knows what's good for him
Marky 1/4
Soddy 11/1
Here comes your latest bets, on your screen now:
Next batch of kisses: Marky 5/1, Soddy 1/100*
*if he knows what's good for him
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Marky Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:13 am
£10 on me.
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Yay, £60 returns
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Yay, £60 returns
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:14 am
Ray Winstone hates you right nowMarky wrote:£10 on me.
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Yay, £60 returns
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Gregers Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:31 am
Team Scholes present their submission to your Lord Azzy
- Team Scholes - Week 4:
The task that we were provided with was to use £50million to take over a non-league club and take them to the Premier League. After various discussions we decided upon...
Truro FC
A major reason for this decision was that Cornwall does not have a big football team and therefore is a ready made catchment area. Trebs did raise a potential problem in that the club is currently in nearly £4 million worth of debt. However we believe that regardless of this we will be able to utilise the £50 million to get the club firstly into the football league before pushing on to the Premiership. This is hopefully evident in regards to the stadium plans.
The White Tigers, an elusive and rather mystical creature for a small side from Cornwall to take their nickname from and it is very apt. The club has never been in a higher league position than they are at the moment which shows you everything about the state of Football in Cornwall when they are the leading club. For this reason alone they are a perfect choice for a task such as this one as the Cornish market is completely untapped with the nearest sides being Exeter City and Plymouth Argyle neither of which have many supporters from Cornwall. My first idea for rebranding Truro FC would be to take the White Tiger theme and make them into the Pride of Cornwall.
Unfortunately
Truro FC are currently in Administration following Kevin Heeney (whose dream it was to get the club to League 2) having been declared bankrupt. Therefore we can move in and use an initial £5 million to secure the clubs finances and settle any outstanding debts. As we will be saving money on the Stadium this should not be a problem.
Staff
Manager
Lee Hodges is our current player-manager. He will be given a chance for the first season at least. He has a wealth of experience in the football league and immediately changing the manager loses fans. Look at Blackburn, they sacked Sam Allardyce and the owners (Venky's) were hated. If, given a chance, then the manager does not impress, then replace him.
Looking ahead, we should be looking for a young manager with fresh ideas, preferably somebody who has coached at a higher level but wants to prove themselves as the main man. Someone who has been involved with the England set up, such as the U21's would be perfect, but we would deal with that when the time comes.
Director of Football
Maybe a bit left field for a non-league side but we fully believe that bringing in Nigel Martyn as Director of Football is of the best interests of the club. Martyn is without question the most famous Cornish footballer of modern times having made 23 appearances for England. He would show of intentions of becoming a focus point of Cornish football as well as being a shining light for the youngsters at the club.
We would hope that Martyn would stay with the club throughout our rise through the football leagues and that his name will allow us to attract the players we have listed below especially McCormick who can work alongside the first £1 million English goalkeeper.
Players
We will be looking to get some of the best young players we can attract. Obviously we have a wage bill but we want to look at getting an academy and investing our money in that. Get the best young players, and with the best facilities we can develop their skills with great coaching staff. All of the Youth Players should be signed to long contracts to ensure they don't go on a free.
We should also be looking at signing players with experience in the football league as we develop promotions. However, instead of spending silly money, we want to set a cap on wages and player signings. Assuming all goes to plan, then the first few years will look something like this:
Breakdown of Spending
Year 1 - £100,000
Year 2 - £200,000
Year 3 - £500,000
Year 4 - £750,000
Year 5 - £1,000,000
When we are in the football league, we can start to think a bit bigger. We should be looking to sign players proven in these leagues, to compliment our Youth Players.
A controversial signing we currently have is Lee McCormick. He has a dark past, but we would like to retain him at the club as, despite his flaws, is a very good goalkeeper and we can help the player turn his life around. It also gives us some good publicity and experience in the football league.
- The Future
Stadium
Stadium wise Truro FC currently play their games at Treyew Road which has a capacity of 3,500 which is okay for Conferance South however I would suggest that we follow up on the plans that the Cornwall Council has started to put in place for a "Stadium of Cornwall" to host Truro FC and the Cornish Pirates rugby union team. This will allow us to utilise a fantastic big stadium early into our plan with limited financial input on our behalf. We would suggest a stadium with a roof in order for it to rival the Millennium Stadium as a multi-sport stadium including an option to the Trelawny Tigers Speedway
Team to move into the Stadium of Cornwall.
Promotions
In order to move towards the Premier League it is of utter importance that we get into the Football leagues in two/three seasons. Truro are currently in the Conferance South, our initial investment will allow us to turn their season around and hopefully move out of this league this season. As Truro recently managed 5 promotions in 6 years looking for two more in three seasons is a truly achieveable feet.
Once in the Football Leagues we will consolidate in League 2 for a season before looking at pushing on to League 1. As Norwich have shown back to back promotions from League 1 to the Premiership is doable however if we can look to become established as a top half Championship side (ALA Brighton/Leeds) in 5-7 years after taking over then that is a serious goal. From there getting ourselves to being a good mid table Premiership side is the next goal before pushing up the league with further investment.
Sponsership
This is an area we looked into a lot as the West Cornwall Pasty Company, whilst a seamingly obvious choice, posed us with a problem in regards to being a small club at the moment in regards to the size of that company. Therefore after many discussions we decided upon Cornish Celtic fan. They get exposure to compete with Magners/Bulmers/etc as well as fitting with our Cornish pride theme.
Hopefully as the club grows we would benefit Celtic fan to raise them to the level they deserve to be at as well as potentially forming a partnership with the aformentioned West Cornwall Pasty Company.
Ethos/Fans
We want to be known as a club who play entertaining football, which will win us fans all over the UK as teams like Blackpool and Swansea have when they have been promoted to the Premier League. We want to play attacking football, looking to entertain and having a charismatic manager. In this way we want to be people's second team as well as the team for everyone in Cornwall.
We should be involved in community events around Cornwall to get a lot of the local support as we could have a huge fanbase with over half a million people living in Cornwall. Giving cheap season tickets to local schools and the like to bring in income and make the owners seem like generous, caring people.
So Lord Azzy we give to you our plans for the investment in Truro FC, the Pride of Cornwall and the next major British football club.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:04 am
Thank you to both teams, another two outstanding submissions.
Azzrentice will start at 1200 tomorrow.
Azzrentice will start at 1200 tomorrow.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:01 pm
Thank you for two very good submissions. It's a tough call. Let's look at the task, of which there were four key parts:
1. Choose a current non-league team to takeover, giving consideration to the fans, the town, and the history of the club;
2. Plot our future course - stadium improvements, fan buy-in, sponsorship deals, player purchases, promotion planning etc;
3. Come up with a club ethos - how will our club be known around the world in its principles and style? Factor in expectation of the players, the media, playing and coaching styles etc
4. Remember to cost up all your parts of the submission so we know how you're spending our money.
Team Wilshere, let's start with you - Soddy, good team captain? How did you go about the task? Get back to me by 1210 please.
1. Choose a current non-league team to takeover, giving consideration to the fans, the town, and the history of the club;
2. Plot our future course - stadium improvements, fan buy-in, sponsorship deals, player purchases, promotion planning etc;
3. Come up with a club ethos - how will our club be known around the world in its principles and style? Factor in expectation of the players, the media, playing and coaching styles etc
4. Remember to cost up all your parts of the submission so we know how you're spending our money.
Team Wilshere, let's start with you - Soddy, good team captain? How did you go about the task? Get back to me by 1210 please.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by sodhat Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:04 pm
I was alright as captain, but it wasn't so important because Marky and I worked very well together.
We went about the task by discussing it throwing ideas back and forth, and agreeing decisions.
We went about the task by discussing it throwing ideas back and forth, and agreeing decisions.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:05 pm
And whose idea was it to spend £1m of my money each year on media consultants?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by sodhat Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:05 pm
That was me
I work in the private sector, we love to spend on consultants
I work in the private sector, we love to spend on consultants
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by sodhat Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:06 pm
In hindsight that was a massive overestimation of their role
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:07 pm
What would spending £2m on a youth setup get me? A training ground with top facilities but no kids to play at it? Or average facilities with great kids?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by sodhat Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:09 pm
We'd focus on top facilities
The kids would come from the local area, and there is a large catchment for players. No guarantees that they are great, but equally you can't dismiss them as average yet.
The kids would come from the local area, and there is a large catchment for players. No guarantees that they are great, but equally you can't dismiss them as average yet.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:10 pm
Okay, that's enough. Shame Marky isn't here.
Team Scholes - Hero, good team leader? How did you go about the task? And in particular, whose idea was it to retain a convicted child killer at my football club?
Team Scholes - Hero, good team leader? How did you go about the task? And in particular, whose idea was it to retain a convicted child killer at my football club?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Trebs Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:12 pm
Hero contributed nothing, so he was a terrible PM.
And it was my idea on retaining a convicted child killer.
And it was my idea on retaining a convicted child killer.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:12 pm
Hero contributed nothing - really? That's why Gregers made the submission?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Trebs Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:13 pm
Yes, Hero didn't do anything. Me and Gregers had to act without him, I think I was more in control but we worked well in the short period of time we had.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Gregers Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:13 pm
Hero wasn't a very good leader, he made it clear he wasn't in to the task and then buggered off.
The task was split up between me and trebs.
Publicity and getting his career back in track, trebs idea as he was in charge on players
The task was split up between me and trebs.
Publicity and getting his career back in track, trebs idea as he was in charge on players
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:15 pm
So whose idea was it to keep the current manager until someone better becomes available?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Gregers Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:17 pm
If you look at clubs that get taken over, keeping the current manager is always a way of getting in with the fans. If he doesn't perform then we will get rid.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:18 pm
You're on fire today Trebs
Last question, why were there no real costs supplied? I have the spending on players there, but not much else. Are you planning on absconding to the Scilly Isles with my money?
Last question, why were there no real costs supplied? I have the spending on players there, but not much else. Are you planning on absconding to the Scilly Isles with my money?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Gregers Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:19 pm
Putting monetary values is always a tricky one as realistically they have to be plucked out of the air. For example saying it will cost x amount to do something is irrelevant when it can't be backed up with actual figures.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:21 pm
Team Wilshere managed it.
I've made my decision.
Team Scholes...
I've made my decision.
Team Scholes...
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:23 pm
You have lost this round. At 1400 we will analyse the reasons for this, and at least one of you will be fired.
Team Wilshere - congratulations on making the Final (yes you heard, the week we come back will be the Final). Your treat this week is to get down your local swimming pool and practice your Santi Cazorla dives.
Team Wilshere - congratulations on making the Final (yes you heard, the week we come back will be the Final
). Your treat this week is to get down your local swimming pool and practice your Santi Cazorla dives.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Trebs Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:23 pm
Damn, you're on to us.
In all seriousness, I thought we should hold onto McCormick for a couple of reasons. He has done his time, been in jail and is fully regretful of what happened and people change over time. He can be a role model for our club. Secondly, he is probably the best goalkeeper who would be willing to play at this level and brings a lot of experience from the football league.
As for the managerial issue, whenever managers are immediately changed as owners take over, it doesn't tend to work out especially if they are under-achieving. We wanted to give the manager time to see what he can achieve, but then if the success isn't coming then bring in someone fresh, as we highlighted before ideally someone who has coached at a high level and wants to prove themselves.
Not providing the costs was maybe an oversight on this task, but I did put a spending plan for the players which was my bit. It is very difficult to project figures in many years time, you can guess and maybe we should have done so.
In all seriousness, I thought we should hold onto McCormick for a couple of reasons. He has done his time, been in jail and is fully regretful of what happened and people change over time. He can be a role model for our club. Secondly, he is probably the best goalkeeper who would be willing to play at this level and brings a lot of experience from the football league.
As for the managerial issue, whenever managers are immediately changed as owners take over, it doesn't tend to work out especially if they are under-achieving. We wanted to give the manager time to see what he can achieve, but then if the success isn't coming then bring in someone fresh, as we highlighted before ideally someone who has coached at a high level and wants to prove themselves.
Not providing the costs was maybe an oversight on this task, but I did put a spending plan for the players which was my bit. It is very difficult to project figures in many years time, you can guess and maybe we should have done so.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by sodhat Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:24 pm
Thank you Lord Azzy
Marky, wherever you may be, thank you to you too
Marky, wherever you may be, thank you to you too
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Trebs Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:24 pm
Would it be possible to do the boardroom now? I'm not here at 1400, I'm off out in a bit till tonight?
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:25 pm
Trebs, 1400 is the time and place for your excuses. I'll be looking at what you and Gregers did and deciding whether either of you deserve to go through.
Well done Marky and Soddy though. I had you as winners on all four points
Well done Marky and Soddy though. I had you as winners on all four points
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:26 pm
Sorry Trebs, have a 1230 meeting to go to then a 1300 lunch date. Put all I need here and I'll decide based on that xxxxxxx
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:45 am
Gregers - you have until 1415 to tell me why you shouldn't be fired.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:13 am
Nearly 1415, let's get cracking.
I've made my decision...
I've made my decision...
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:23 am
Hero is fired for not contributing to the task. Which is a real shame, because he's been a strong contender all throughout the process with some good ideas.
As for you Gregers...
As for you Gregers...
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:25 am
You are in the final. Just. You've been quietly building a good rep in the Azzrentice, and the final will be your big chance to shine.
As for Trebs...
As for Trebs...
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Trebs Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:41 am
Come on azzy i'm following on.my phone. the.suspense.is killing me.
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:18 am
My boss came in...but regretfully Trebs, you're fired. Most weeks you've made mistakes, and I think it's one too many this time. I love your passion for the game mate, it really stands out
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Re: The Azzrentice! Week 4
by Guest Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:25 am
Guys you've all been great in this first season of Azzrentice - thanks for all your efforts so far 
The final, taking place in our first week back in January, will be:
Marky vs Soddy vs Gregers
And, as always, they will welcome back their former adversaries to assist them in their efforts
The final, taking place in our first week back in January, will be:
Marky vs Soddy vs Gregers
And, as always, they will welcome back their former adversaries to assist them in their efforts
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