Saints v Ulster Friday HEC 7th December

by Rava Mon 03 Dec 2012, 12:11 pm

First topic message reminder :

So the big double header kicks off at Franklin's Gardens on Friday evening. Both teams will believe a win is possible but who will prevail?

Ulster coach Mark Anscombe says Ulster will need to improve on the current form. I would agree, though the disruption of Autumn Internationals wouldn't have helped.

http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/news/19701.php#.ULyVo-RWySo

Interesting interview with Pat Lam (Former Saints captain) who actually thinks these sides could face each other in the Final next May.

http://www.ercrugby.com/eng/matchdaytv?play=media&id=13581

Ulster XV & replacements to face Northampton Saints, Heineken Cup, Friday 7th December, Franklin's Gardens (8.00pm):
(15-9): J Payne; T Bowe, D Cave, P Wallace, A Trimble; P Jackson, R Pienaar;
(1-8): T Court, R Best, J Afoa, J Muller (c), D Tuohy, I Henderson, C Henry, R Wilson;
Replacements (16-23): N Brady, C Black, R Lutton, R Diack, N Williams, P Marshall, L Marshall, C Gilroy.

Northampton XV.

(15-9): B Foden; K Pisi, G Pisi, D Waldouck, J Elliott; R Lamb, M Roberts;

(1-8): S Tonga'uiha, D Hartley (c), B Mujati, S Manoa, C Lawes, C Clark, T Wood, G van Velze;

Replacements (16-23): M Haywood, A Waller, P Doran-Jones, M Sorenson, P Dowson, L Dickson, S Myler, T May.

by toml Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:00 am

Congrats Clive, you do sound like a crazy but it is a great name!

by Portnoy's Complaint Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:55 am

Congratulations to Ulster (and to Connacht for that matter who I was keeping a slight eye on via the red button).

I had expected both of those teams to lose last evening, but both the Irish teams were convincing winners. Ulster just bullied the Saints off the park with the power and precision that Saints could not begin to match. Brilliant. That's 13/13 isn't it? Very impressive.

Maybe a Tigers date in Belfast in the spring?

by Breadvan Sat 08 Dec 2012, 9:33 am

viewtothegym wrote:Have to say that result came as no surprise,.
star man Tom Wood really struggled,maybe he should only play against teams with a virus

by Standulstermen Sat 08 Dec 2012, 9:46 am

Fantastic Clive! Now you will be able to curse at two Ruan'sn thumbsup

by **rodders** Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:01 am

Clive!

by The Boss Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:06 am

Congrats Clive.

Watched the match when I got home from work but fell asleep when it was still 20-6. Apparently when I woke up I've decided to delere the recording without watching any more. Swear I wasn't drunk!

I take it the team really kicked on to get the bonus points win. What did Hartley do this time? And what were the last 2 tries like?

I thought in the 1st half Trimble was outstanding and Payne really does look a class apart from the rest. Chris Henry was everywhere and the scrum destroyed Northampton. Great performance all round and hopefully can kick on next week. It scares me a bit that henderson is a year younger than me too!

by MrsP Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:11 am

Many congrats Clive!

Just watched the tries again.

That final one was a thing of beauty alright. Need to watch with the sound off though. Barnes is doing my head in between saying we sacked our coach for losing the final (we didn't sack him and it was sorted long before the final) and then saying we had lost our last three HEC games to English teams. I'm pretty sure we just squeeked past the Tigers at Ravenhill last season, no?

That and the prematch head to head they showed about the 2 Captains, Hartley and Best!

picard

by **rodders** Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:19 am

I like Stuart Barnes actually.... and the handbags between Hartley and Best only added to the match boxing

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In fact apart from Muller's injury I'd say all is right in the world right now... Saints v Ulster Friday HEC 7th December - Page 10 3602195817

Can't wait for the return game....that's if it's safe to come to Belfast that is... Whistle

by **rodders** Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:29 am

by Cari Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:41 am

rodders wrote:

Can't wait for the return game....that's if it's safe to come to Belfast that is...

They'd better blydi behave for the next round in January! warning

by The Boss Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:43 am

Cheers rodders! Really was a great display!

Also the Ulster fans were absoultely unreal last night!

by **rodders** Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:47 am

Those tries were mesmerizing.... I could watch them all day Smile

... Jared Payne notworthy

by The Boss Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:49 am

Jared Payne has a class about him just makes everything look easy. The catch he took before his try in the 1st half was made to look ridiculously easy!

by Cari Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:51 am

rodders wrote:Boss tries here mate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iAGgljrAFU&list=PLh8UUse1EOvDibB8mEF9z1BN7IqaLP2l6&index=2

Enjoy!

Thank you Rodders!! heart

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by **rodders** Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:55 am

He was involved in every try there, he is just class.... but the interplay between that back 3 is just brilliant to watch. That cutting edge out wide is the biggest difference from last year I think.

When you watch the way Trimble, Payne and Bowe link up in attack it really makes it difficult to justify dropping one for Gilroy. It's a great place for us to be.

Great performances across the board last night... could name 9 or 10 MOTM contenders. Fantastic stuff.

by The Boss Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:58 am

Ye, I personally would have started Gilroy in place of Trimble but Jesus Trimble was like a man possessed last night. He'd run head 1st into an oncoming bus! And offered a lot in attack as well!

Maybe Tommy will be the man dropped for Gilroy Wink

eh Cari? Haha

by **rodders** Sat 08 Dec 2012, 10:58 am

...on a bum note...that wee jig from Payne after his try was a poor show... stick to the rugby sir thumbsdown

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by MrsP Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:02 am

Guys,

Those links could lead to the thing disappearing.

Could I suggest PMs?

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:05 am

Haven't been on this thread yet just wanted to pop in and say 2 things:

1: Congrats to Ulster you have a fantastic team and a fantastic team to watch, delighted for you guys

2: You guys now have the 2 best inside centres in Ireland playing for you

by Cari Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:05 am

The Boss wrote:

Maybe Tommy will be the man dropped for Gilroy eh Cari? Haha

There'd be more trouble in Belfast if they did that... laughing

by Rava Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:18 am

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Haven't been on this thread yet just wanted to pop in and say 2 things:

1: Congrats to Ulster you have a fantastic team and a fantastic team to watch, delighted for you guys

2: You guys now have the 2 best inside centres in Ireland playing for you

Thanks Pete, although I believe young McSharry looked good for Connacht last night.

by Rava Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:20 am

Clive, just read your news. Big congratulations to you and Mrs. McL. Saints v Ulster Friday HEC 7th December - Page 10 Dancing-baby

by Rory_Gallagher Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:43 am

rodders wrote:...on a bum note...that wee jig from Payne after his try was a poor show... stick to the rugby sir .....

Seems to happen regularly enough in the S15 rodders, they practically have a dance off after each try!

Oh and Clive - congrats mate! thumbsup

by Hood83 Sat 08 Dec 2012, 11:52 am

Congrats Clive thumbsup

by clivemcl Sat 08 Dec 2012, 12:04 pm

Thankyou all. The wee man was actually watching the tv last night. I told him we were supporting the ones in white.

After Trimbles try my wife decided it would be safer if i didnt hold him during Ulster matches... warning

by Mickado Sat 08 Dec 2012, 12:28 pm

Congrats Clive!

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 08 Dec 2012, 12:30 pm

clivemcl wrote:Is the suggestion here really that Muller had potentially a broken arm and attempted to make a tackle anyway? WOW!

Allso, seems like as good a time as any to let yous know the wife and I had our first baby there last month.

We named him ... wait for it...

Ruan.

Yep. i know how it seems, and trust me I'm not a crazy obsessed stalker we just genuainly like the name. Heck, the missus doesnt give a stuff about rugby.

SUFTUM

Congrats big lad!

by BelfastDickVet Sat 08 Dec 2012, 12:40 pm

Congrats Clive!

by Cari Sat 08 Dec 2012, 12:53 pm

Llongyfarchiadau (congratulations) Clive!! Bubbly

It's cool that he has an unusual, but sensible name. Smile

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sat 08 Dec 2012, 12:55 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
clivemcl wrote:Is the suggestion here really that Muller had potentially a broken arm and attempted to make a tackle anyway? WOW!

Allso, seems like as good a time as any to let yous know the wife and I had our first baby there last month.

We named him ... wait for it...

Ruan.

Yep. i know how it seems, and trust me I'm not a crazy obsessed stalker we just genuainly like the name. Heck, the missus doesnt give a stuff about rugby.

SUFTUM

UNREAL!!!! Congrats Clive.
Congrats big lad!

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sat 08 Dec 2012, 12:59 pm

Rava wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Haven't been on this thread yet just wanted to pop in and say 2 things:

1: Congrats to Ulster you have a fantastic team and a fantastic team to watch, delighted for you guys

2: You guys now have the 2 best inside centres in Ireland playing for you

Thanks Pete, although I believe young McSharry looked good for Connacht last night.

True story Rava. I only saw bit of it but he looks like a good player, very strong for an irish 12 and I do believe he is quite young too. Offload out of contact for the try was pretty tasty, then again Paddy's tackling was outstanding and Luke Marshall destroyed his opposite number for Tuohy's try. NOw just need Darcy to run over ROugerie a few times Fingers Crossed

by Rory_Gallagher Sat 08 Dec 2012, 1:28 pm

Can McSharry play at 13? He looks very physical.

by Morgannwg Sat 08 Dec 2012, 1:43 pm

Good god that's hell of a win. Sounds like Ulster took them apart.

by MrsP Sat 08 Dec 2012, 2:33 pm

Darn!

Muller has an undisplaced radial fracture.

They are saying 8 weeks. I would hope it will be less than that!

by eirebilly Sat 08 Dec 2012, 2:37 pm

I am starting to dislike Ulster winning all the time.

They should learn their rightfull place in Irish rugby behind the big boys of Munster and Leinster, jumped up little scallywags that they are...

Very Happy

by MrsP Sat 08 Dec 2012, 2:41 pm

That is this particular little Ulster Scallywag jumping up!

Very Happy

by eirebilly Sat 08 Dec 2012, 2:44 pm

MrsP wrote:

That is this particular little Ulster Scallywag jumping up!

So many funny retorts to make that my mind is in overload Very Happy

by Rory_Gallagher Sat 08 Dec 2012, 2:49 pm

Looking forward to the Munster game later billy?

by eirebilly Sat 08 Dec 2012, 2:49 pm

Sure Rory, should be a walkover Wink

by neilthom7 Sat 08 Dec 2012, 3:04 pm

So guys shall we just give us the trophy now or do you want to wait to the end anyways Whistle

by eirebilly Sat 08 Dec 2012, 3:05 pm

neilthom7 wrote:So guys shall we just give us the trophy now or do you want to wait to the end anyways

Learn your place young man Very Happy

by neilthom7 Sat 08 Dec 2012, 3:08 pm

eirebilly wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:So guys shall we just give us the trophy now or do you want to wait to the end anyways

Learn your place young man

No problem Billy I shall indeed it's something like this right king

by eirebilly Sat 08 Dec 2012, 3:10 pm

neilthom7 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:So guys shall we just give us the trophy now or do you want to wait to the end anyways

Learn your place young man
No problem Billy I shall indeed it's something like this right

Now where is that <bitchslap> emoticon? Very Happy

by neilthom7 Sat 08 Dec 2012, 3:47 pm

eirebilly wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:So guys shall we just give us the trophy now or do you want to wait to the end anyways

Learn your place young man
No problem Billy I shall indeed it's something like this right

Now where is that <bitchslap> emoticon?

Big game for Munster later can they make it 3 irish sides from 3?

by UlstermaninGlasgow Sat 08 Dec 2012, 5:15 pm

MrsP wrote:Darn!

Muller has an undisplaced radial fracture.

They are saying 8 weeks. I would hope it will be less than that!

Most people are good after a few weeks from that kind of injury no? Would have thought 5/6 weeks more likely? Or is it maybe compounded by his earlier thumb injury?

by Portnoy's Complaint Sat 08 Dec 2012, 5:35 pm

neilthom7 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:
eirebilly wrote:
neilthom7 wrote:So guys shall we just give us the trophy now or do you want to wait to the end anyways

Learn your place young man
No problem Billy I shall indeed it's something like this right

Now where is that <bitchslap> emoticon?

Big game for Munster later can they make it 3 irish sides from 3?

Are these chickens or eggs that are being counted?

by doctor_grey Sat 08 Dec 2012, 5:49 pm

Evening crew,
Only have a minute, but wanted to jump in and congratulate Ulster on the win. Your back three was clearly a step ahead of Saints and was the big difference in the match. Real class. I get the point about Jared Payne now, and it seemed he is almost another captain from the back. Which is important.

I think if you get the win in the return fixture, you are clearly one of the small group of teams to favoured to win the whole thing. And you would be the team I will be pulling for. There are no real unsavoury characters in your lineup, so a rather appealing side. Excepting Jared payne's scoring dance.

For Saints, I still am shocked at the selections in the starting lineup, especially the halfbacks. They were poor and seemed lost. Lamb's kicking was horrendous. He has kicked in worse winds in Northampton before. No excuse. I told you all I would feel a physical pain if I saw his name pencilled in. Still hurts.

The other point which was disappointing was the constant turnovers. Seemed Saints were trying to force things rather than stay with their natural forward oriented game. And that cost Saints big time. I have to wonder how much flak Jim Mallinder will receive.

by Artful_Dodger Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:00 pm

doc

by MrsP Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:16 pm

How many pints is that then Grey?

Whistle

by **rodders** Sat 08 Dec 2012, 8:17 pm

Dr_Grey. Very gracious of you sir

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