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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish
POS | Aviva Premiership | PLAYED | WON | DREW | LOST | P F | P A | P D | T F | T A | TBP | LBP | POINTS | |
1 | Leicester Tigers | 12 | 11 | 0 | 1 | 305 | 248 | +57 | 33 | 22 | 0 | 1 | 45 | |
2 | Harlequins | 12 | 9 | 0 | 3 | 304 | 276 | +28 | 33 | 28 | 1 | 3 | 40 | |
3 | Newcastle Falcons | 12 | 9 | 0 | 3 | 302 | 270 | +32 | 31 | 22 | 0 | 3 | 39 | |
4 | Sale Sharks | 12 | 7 | 0 | 5 | 304 | 280 | +24 | 33 | 27 | 1 | 5 | 34 | |
5 | Northampton Saints | 12 | 6 | 1 | 5 | 311 | 284 | +27 | 34 | 28 | 2 | 5 | 33 | |
6 | London Irish | 12 | 6 | 0 | 6 | 301 | 293 | +8 | 32 | 30 | 2 | 6 | 32 | |
7 | Gloucester | 12 | 6 | 0 | 6 | 289 | 290 | -1 | 31 | 31 | 0 | 4 | 28 | |
8 | London Welsh | 12 | 5 | 1 | 6 | 273 | 266 | +7 | 28 | 24 | 0 | 6 | 28 | |
9 | Bath Rugby | 12 | 5 | 0 | 7 | 277 | 293 | -16 | 25 | 32 | 0 | 5 | 25 | |
10 | London Wasps | 12 | 2 | 0 | 10 | 247 | 294 | -47 | 21 | 33 | 0 | 8 | 16 | |
11 | Worcester Warriors | 12 | 2 | 1 | 9 | 252 | 308 | -56 | 21 | 33 | 0 | 4 | 14 | |
12 | Saracens | 12 | 2 | 1 | 9 | 248 | 311 | -63 | 21 | 34 | 0 | 4 | 14 |
Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.
Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.
Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.
Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.
Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.
Transfers wrote:
- Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.- Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.- Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.
Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation
Compensation will be paid as follows
£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other
If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.
Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.
Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.
Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.
In addition, each team must have the following:-
At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.
At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.
All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).
Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.
If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.
Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.
Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.
Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.
Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.
Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.
£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.
AP finishing positions.
Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m
Heineken Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million
Amlin Challenge Cup
Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million
Anglo-Welsh Cup
Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million
If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.
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Hartley was better than best at throwing when the two teams played - one of the best in the business there - he doesn't compete with his work at the breakdown, as Best is exceptional there.
Hartley is a shoe in to tour in my opinion - he's a right pain in the backside and the sort that you don't really want to play against, excellent leadership - had Shaun Edwards raving about him mid-week.
Can't see Strauss going personally.
Hartley is a shoe in to tour in my opinion - he's a right pain in the backside and the sort that you don't really want to play against, excellent leadership - had Shaun Edwards raving about him mid-week.
Can't see Strauss going personally.
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Yea Hartley has a solid throw, not a fan of his scrummaging but you can't really fault his throwing. It used to be really poor too.
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Edwards talks balls tbh, not sure he actually watches the AP.
Hartley no shoe in, he's 2nd choice for England currently. Big challenge for him
Hartley no shoe in, he's 2nd choice for England currently. Big challenge for him
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Hartley won't tour. For me he's the Borthwick of this England team.
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That seems to be a popular phrase at the minute lol
He's not Borthwick bad, just needs to up his game. He's always been a bit of a passanger at Int level I've thought
He's not Borthwick bad, just needs to up his game. He's always been a bit of a passanger at Int level I've thought
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'Hartley won't tour'
That is a crazy statement. The fact that you can categorically rule out England's first choice hooker (Yes Pooly, Hartley is first choice) is mad. Especially when there is such a lack of competition across the board in comparison to other positions.
That is a crazy statement. The fact that you can categorically rule out England's first choice hooker (Yes Pooly, Hartley is first choice) is mad. Especially when there is such a lack of competition across the board in comparison to other positions.
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Only SL knows if Hartley is first choice Steve. Youngs has played well throughout the AI, it's his to lose.
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Owens not yet Wales first choice, although on form he is certainly their best hooker. All depends on who Gatland picks for Wales. Can't see him as a front runner quite yet.
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I would be shocked if Hartley doesn't start the first 6N game with Youngs on the bench.
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Lots of debate on hookers. Looseheads for the Lions?
Alex Corbiseiro
Cian Healy
Andrew Sheridan
With Paul James on stand by.
Alex Corbiseiro
Cian Healy
Andrew Sheridan
With Paul James on stand by.
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Hartley has played very well this season, played well in SA too. Think that is why he has had so many plaudits in recent months and won AP player of the month in October. He didnt have the best of years last year.
He's our best hooker by some distance at the moment, Youngs has a way to go on his basics, but improving all the time and definitely at the right club to keep doing that. Just think starting Hartley and having Youngs as the impact sub would be the best thing for England.
Be good to see Croft back next week - should make a big difference to the Tigers pack - be interesting to see how he gets back into the England fold.
Billy Vunipola should replace Waldroum in the EPS too - he had a cracking game yesterday, still gives away silly penalties but if you get him involved in the England setup Im sure that would stop - was sitting next to a London Welsh fan and she pretty much shut her eyes every time he got hold of the ball!
He's our best hooker by some distance at the moment, Youngs has a way to go on his basics, but improving all the time and definitely at the right club to keep doing that. Just think starting Hartley and having Youngs as the impact sub would be the best thing for England.
Be good to see Croft back next week - should make a big difference to the Tigers pack - be interesting to see how he gets back into the England fold.
Billy Vunipola should replace Waldroum in the EPS too - he had a cracking game yesterday, still gives away silly penalties but if you get him involved in the England setup Im sure that would stop - was sitting next to a London Welsh fan and she pretty much shut her eyes every time he got hold of the ball!
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Healy and Corbs should go unless of injury and massive drop in form.
great competition for 3rd spot. Sheridan unlikely for me. I expect it will go to Jenkins or Paul James.
great competition for 3rd spot. Sheridan unlikely for me. I expect it will go to Jenkins or Paul James.
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I'm unsure why you think Hartley is our best hooker "by some distance"?
Youngs was excellent in 2/4 AI games and good in the other (1 iffy game). His performances in the loose where better than Hartleys have ever been. What justifies Hartley being better than him "by some distance"?
I think it's 50/50 on who'll start in the 6N, if it was now I think SL would go with Youngs. Hartley was not good in SA, he was poor to average.
Hartley is not that good that he has reserved the hooker berth.
Steve, fair point. I wouldn't be surprised if Hartley started the first game from the bench.
Youngs was excellent in 2/4 AI games and good in the other (1 iffy game). His performances in the loose where better than Hartleys have ever been. What justifies Hartley being better than him "by some distance"?
I think it's 50/50 on who'll start in the 6N, if it was now I think SL would go with Youngs. Hartley was not good in SA, he was poor to average.
Hartley is not that good that he has reserved the hooker berth.
Steve, fair point. I wouldn't be surprised if Hartley started the first game from the bench.
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Leadership qualities, decision making, work around the fringes, set piece, experience, tackling, passing, way he slows up opposition ball - could go on. Youngs far more dynamic and good at clearing the breakdown - just rate Hartley highly.
Never sure why people see HArtley as a poor scrummager - whenever he plays for Saints the scrum goes forward and they get penalities - he may pop up every now and then but he's doing very well against Smit today.
Never sure why people see HArtley as a poor scrummager - whenever he plays for Saints the scrum goes forward and they get penalities - he may pop up every now and then but he's doing very well against Smit today.
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Just been smashed there by Smit.
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Big Phil Dowson on the rampage.
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great phase of play from Saints. Not many go through sarries defence like that
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Poor defense there , fair play to Saints and Dickson switching the direction there.
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No he wasnt - that was Stevens lol.
When Ben Kay says just before how much he brings to the Saints scrum, I think he might know what he is talking about - as that try set up by the Saints scrum.
Great game this - Dowson such a good AP player, just lacks that bit of size to take it to the next level up. Two really good sides - Strettle and Ashton's work rates are amazing.
When Ben Kay says just before how much he brings to the Saints scrum, I think he might know what he is talking about - as that try set up by the Saints scrum.
Great game this - Dowson such a good AP player, just lacks that bit of size to take it to the next level up. Two really good sides - Strettle and Ashton's work rates are amazing.
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He may pop up every now and then.....that's the understatement of the year.
Leadership qualities - gets cited in Saints make/break HC game
Tackling - gets thrown about like a tag doll by BdP, bumped off for try v SA costing us the game
Passing - ????
Slows opposition ball - seen nothing of this
I'll give you experience and he currently has a slightly better throw.
Youngs
Carries better than Hartley ever has/will
Hits harder than Hartley
Is more physical than Hartley
Faster around the park
As an ex centre his passing in light years ahead of Hartleys
Scrummaging - he doesn't pop up every other scrum, better technique
Leadership qualities - gets cited in Saints make/break HC game
Tackling - gets thrown about like a tag doll by BdP, bumped off for try v SA costing us the game
Passing - ????
Slows opposition ball - seen nothing of this
I'll give you experience and he currently has a slightly better throw.
Youngs
Carries better than Hartley ever has/will
Hits harder than Hartley
Is more physical than Hartley
Faster around the park
As an ex centre his passing in light years ahead of Hartleys
Scrummaging - he doesn't pop up every other scrum, better technique
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His big positive over Youngs is his throw and he is a hooker after all. Youngs improving all the time though.
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Guess we will see later on in the year - Hartley playing very well today.
There is no way Vunipola is 22 years old - looks to be in his 40s.
Waldouck having a good game.
There is no way Vunipola is 22 years old - looks to be in his 40s.
Waldouck having a good game.
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I haven't noticed Hartley at all watching this tbh.
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Yea Chris, all opinions. Actually think its a real close call
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Youngs has come on amazingly - didnt think he'd improve so fast, do really rate him and Tigers will see him come through really well.
Just like him as potential impact sub for England, see that could be ideal for him - would like us to see if we could get a really good impact bench, which Lancaster looks like he's starting to do.
Be interesting to see what he does with the EPS in the New Year.
Just like him as potential impact sub for England, see that could be ideal for him - would like us to see if we could get a really good impact bench, which Lancaster looks like he's starting to do.
Be interesting to see what he does with the EPS in the New Year.
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I don't think Billy will make the 6N , be better for him playing 80 minutes for wasps each week.
I can see Jordan Crane and Callum Clark being promoted though.
I can see Jordan Crane and Callum Clark being promoted though.
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If i was picking the EPS I'd go for
Youngs T , Paice D , Hartley D
Corbisero A , Marler J , Cole D , Harden R , Thomas H
Launchbury J , Parling G , Kitchener G , Robson G
Robshaw C , Wood T , Croft T , Kvesic M , Clark C
Morgan B , Crane J
Care D , Youngs B , Dickson K
Flood T , Burns F
Barritt B , Tuilagi M , Joseph J
Foden B , Ashton C , Sharples C
Brown M , Goode A
Youngs T , Paice D , Hartley D
Corbisero A , Marler J , Cole D , Harden R , Thomas H
Launchbury J , Parling G , Kitchener G , Robson G
Robshaw C , Wood T , Croft T , Kvesic M , Clark C
Morgan B , Crane J
Care D , Youngs B , Dickson K
Flood T , Burns F
Barritt B , Tuilagi M , Joseph J
Foden B , Ashton C , Sharples C
Brown M , Goode A
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Hartley trying to start a scrap again....
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I think he's good in terms of letting teams play a bit , but the breakdown is a mess and that stops teamsd getting quick ball.
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Think he's awful - gets so many calls wrong, missing so much.
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Just saw this from my old Leeds page from SirJ:
always told flanker (previous Leeds manager) that he was 2 top back rowers away from being a top 6 side here.
You LIED to me!!!!!!!!!!!
always told flanker (previous Leeds manager) that he was 2 top back rowers away from being a top 6 side here.
You LIED to me!!!!!!!!!!!
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Never trust an Irish(adopted) accountant Prop!
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A81675912
Great result for Exeter back in the day.
Great result for Exeter back in the day.
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Another weekend get away Matthew? lol
My bed room with a few DVDs will see me through New Year!
My bed room with a few DVDs will see me through New Year!
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Papers saying Toby Falatau could be a Bath player come September.
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http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/Bath-Rugby-make-Toby-Faletau/story-17699820-detail/story.html
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Keen to get some deals done, I'm actually around to do some negotiating!
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Evening lads just getting my teampage done now. Sorry for not getting it in sooner but a couple of quiet pints last night turned into a session and I'm only just about fit for anything. Page up very soon.
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English Qualified are gold dust mate, don't lose without getting some back as you need to start 5 in your XV and have 5 subs.
Squad limit is 40 (senior) so beware losing quality for squad players.
Any advice give me a shout, Falcons manager.
Squad limit is 40 (senior) so beware losing quality for squad players.
Any advice give me a shout, Falcons manager.
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Cheers for the advice. Will be aiming to remodel the whole squad, and to give people an idea of the sort of players I am looking for, basically I will be going for an Anglo-South African look and playing an abrasive forward dominated Bok style game.
Just browsing everyones squads now to see which players I am after.
Just browsing everyones squads now to see which players I am after.
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Hit me up if you're interested in any guys mate, around for a good offer or two
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I suggest hitting Gloucester for SA players although I doubt Matt will sell lol
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Lads, unless there is a massive upgrade for me, these players are not for sale, Mullan, Smit, Elliott, JdP, FvdM. Duvenage, Thompstone, Visser and Ben Smith.
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I'm signing off now as got work in the morning, but will be back on tomorrow evening when I get in so if anyone has any offers leave them on my page and I'll get back to you then. Cheers.
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