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Breaking News: Sale Sharks go into the top 4 for the first time this season after beating Worcester Warriors at home.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:10 pm

Yea mentalily strong at 6, I fancy a whitewash

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:49 pm

Well that was fast, POC out of hospital and op a success. Aiming to be back for April:

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/11329.php

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:10 pm

I'll eat my hat if POC goes on the Lions tour.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:11 pm

Yea it'll be too late unless he's plays constantly and well for a few months.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:20 pm

I would imagine that in the fortnight after the 6 Nations Gatland will pretty much decide on his squad, save for a space or two for any real bolters.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:01 pm

I'd be very surprised if POC named in initial squad.

Providing he is fit at the end of the season though, I wouldn't be surprised if he was called up as an injury replacement during the tour though.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:09 pm

Would be so good for Wasps if we can keep Vunipola - looks like he's about to sign a new deal and not go to either Sarries or Tigers!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2255432/Billy-Vunipola-set-sign-new-Wasps-deal.html

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:15 pm

Can't see Tigers being interested in him with their options at 8

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:28 pm

They put an offer in for him, so they must be pretty keen. Think BV is going to be a special player when he stops giving away penalties like he has been doing - capped by 6Nations?

Pete - I think it is you who has Swainston in your team, he's coming on very, very well has been a big improvement in our front row - if we can avoid getting Launchbury, Haskell, Simpson, Wade and Varndell injured I can't see why we wont finish top4 this year.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:44 pm

I can't believe they've gone for him unless they've went in really low. Makes no sense as they have 2 Int 8's on good wedge.

I can't see it myself, good carrier but no brains.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:07 pm

Huge Vunipola fan. He keeps improving and is positionally great at 8. He really tracks the ball and reads the game welll. Can't teach that. Jordan crane still does not have it and would imagine would be offed if they signed BV

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:25 pm

There's your backup Chris lol, you make me laugh you two.

Can't see it myself, he's a beastly carrier but just a pen waiting to happen. Needs a few prem seasons to learn his trade. Like my 8's to have a brain.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:28 pm

Last three games that I've seen him play he's been so good - completely different player to last year, the coaching team that Wasps have got in are doing a really good job with our youngsters, be good for Ben Morgan to have some proper competition for the no8 shirt. Walked by him at the London Welsh game and the guy is just an absolute beast.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:32 pm

Was he licking a window?

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:59 pm

Did you watch the rugby club feature on him with dean Ryan saying how good he was. ? I agree with Ryan who is the best pundit out there. Like he said Bv is maturing week by week and should be in England squad

That will do it for me. I thought he was going to be all brawn and no brain but have had to revise my opinion and say I was wrong


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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:02 pm

Morgan and Bv would give us some really good options.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:05 pm

They can make anybody look good on the rugby club when they try. I seem to recall Andy Saull getting lauded and he's tripe!

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Post by dammit_chris Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:14 pm

Pretty certain that it has been Vunipola's performances this season that have made him look good - its his handling and offloading that has impressed me this year.

Saull's a really good player, just had quite a few issues with injury - proper out and out seven

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:27 pm

Haha....I'm loving the Chris/Matt click, have to keep an eye on you two in predo's Wink

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:26 pm

Just catching up on the thread. I always take tactics into account. Theres not much between any sides in the league so the right game plan can be key.

One thing I've noticed on predictions and can be as bad as tactical voting is the slagging in predictions. Alot of Holly Wilaboobie for tat in predictions with manager A slatting and then manager B getting his slag in.

You can't question players form at times for the risk of getting one of your own players absolutely ripped.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:30 pm

Agree with you there SJE look how
Tight the league is from 1-8th place. Tactics are what can differ

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:36 pm

Anyone watching the darts ? Quality match

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:59 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Also got too accept some people don't like your team. I rate sales team and often award win but don't think SJE has given me more than 2 wins all season. Obviously does not like my type of players which Is fine. It's about opinions

Quite appreciate that you rate my team come predictions time but you might want to check that again Matt...

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:10 pm

Great match matt. Love MVG

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:12 pm

This could go on late into the night Steve. Taylor not as good as he was but still Some player. His experience could sneak it. Top sport

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:13 pm

I always watch the later stages. Don't see much during the year but love the World Championships

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Post by prop_lyd Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:17 pm

I was aiming for an early night but can't keep my eyes off this darts match!!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:19 pm

Did you just call Darts a sport?!?!

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:20 pm

I watch the final and semi finals only. I start a new job tomorrow but can't switch this off. Aaaggghhh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:21 pm

Nah not a sport just a game.

But a great game to watch.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:23 pm

Darts Is sport.
Pure pressure and mentally draining. If snooker is a sport then so is darts.

Admittedly they are not athletes by anyone's standards.

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:24 pm

Game is probably correct term Steve but what these darts players do is pretty epic

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:27 pm

Games is pretty accurate.

I can't see how things get classed as sports if our lass is fitter than the pro's. snooker, darts etc

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Post by Guest Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:34 pm

Don't have to be that fit
For cricket although that is changing now. More of a mental game darts

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Post by DHLS07 Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:31 pm

I'm about for deals for a bit people.

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Post by DHLS07 Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:39 pm

I'm looking mainly at the moment for a decent lineout lock and a 10 with good game management and a decent boot as well as English players.

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Post by DHLS07 Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:46 pm

How much can I get for releasing Eifion Lewis-Roberts, Rocky Elsom, Shane Jennings, Yannick Jauzion and Chris Bell?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:53 pm

You'd get £7 million for them mate. Stick them on the transfer confirmation page if you want it.
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Post by prop_lyd Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:46 pm

I'll buy Jennings off you for cash Ok!
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