Munster vs Saracens

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Just kicked off looks like it will be a bruising encounter

good clearance

What a kick, Zebo.

LeinsterFan4life wrote:

Feckless Rogue wrote:Murray.

I have grave concerns about this chap playing for Ireland. Sometimes he looks like a decent 9. But mistakes and poorly executed kicks/passes are pretty much a constant feature of his game.

Agree with this. He is a great 9 when he's hot but he is just too inconsistent.

Marmion will be our next 9

I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

good tackle by jones. Great to see him back

Earls at 15? Or Zebo?

Jones saves Zebo's bacon! Great tackle!

maestegmafia wrote:

LeinsterFan4life wrote:

Feckless Rogue wrote:Murray.

I have grave concerns about this chap playing for Ireland. Sometimes he looks like a decent 9. But mistakes and poorly executed kicks/passes are pretty much a constant feature of his game.

Agree with this. He is a great 9 when he's hot but he is just too inconsistent.

Marmion will be our next 9

I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

And he is 27 and has a dodgy pass at times.


Keatley needs to be brought on.

Munsters defence today has been excellent

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Earls at 15? Or Zebo?

Zebo, LLL to the wing.


Earls has been great today.

Even a penalty will kill off Sarries now. But a try would be deserved. Fans have been fantastic and munster have had a torrid time with the refs calls

valjester wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Earls at 15? Or Zebo?

Zebo, LLL to the wing.


Earls has been great today.

Surely it would be Earls on the wing? Stange call when LLL isn't a wing.

valjester wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

And he is 27 and has a dodgy pass at times.

Bollix he does, he's the best passer in the country.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

valjester wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Earls at 15? Or Zebo?

Zebo, LLL to the wing.


Earls has been great today.

Surely it would be Earls on the wing? Stange call when LLL isn't a wing.

No, Earls has been the better centre in defence this season.

Saracens are driving before the ball is in.

rodders wrote:

valjester wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

And he is 27 and has a dodgy pass at times.

Bollix he does, he's the best passer in the country.

Think youll find thats Madigan

That makes me laugh every once in a blue moon a ref ever calls a crooked feed...

How can he do that once in a game when all the feeds are crooked ???

rodders wrote:

valjester wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

And he is 27 and has a dodgy pass at times.

Bollix he does, he's the best passer in the country.

No, he's not. Stringer would be, and Marshall is a long way behind.


Ref has made some farcical decisions.

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:Great defence by Munster...

How did Sarries butcher a three man over lap...?

You answered your question - great defence!

Easy, nobody straightened the line, the move just kept going right, it never checked the defence.

Ireland is not exactly blessed with super scrum halves. In fact we never have been really. So Murray may well be the best of a very mediocre bunch I guess.

My favourite ever scrummy is Joost van der Westhuizen. We could really do with an Irish version of him. Jimmy O'Westhuizen.

This referee hasnt got a clue at the scrum

maestegmafia wrote:This referee hasnt got a clue at the scrum

He has been terribly inconsistent.

Zebo in pain there

valjester wrote:

rodders wrote:

valjester wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

And he is 27 and has a dodgy pass at times.

Bollix he does, he's the best passer in the country.

No, he's not. Stringer would be, and Marshall is a long way behind.

Stringer?? Do you still have a black and white TV as well? Think you've been reading the Indo too much Val....

Golden wrote:

rodders wrote:

valjester wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

And he is 27 and has a dodgy pass at times.

Bollix he does, he's the best passer in the country.

Think youll find thats Madigan

Agree 100%. He regularly throws passes that make the Leinster crowd actually gasp in amazement.

Feckless Rogue wrote:Ireland is not exactly blessed with super scrum halves. In fact we never have been really. So Murray may well be the best of a very mediocre bunch I guess.

My favourite ever scrummy is Joost van der Westhuizen. We could really do with an Irish version of him. Jimmy O'Westhuizen.

Marmion played really well yesterday.

Joost is definitely the best SH ever. No doubt.

Marmion has been a revelation for Connacht. He could be the next big thing at 9.

Another miss

You never going to win a match if your miss your line outs, your kicks and suffer in the scrums.

GunsGerms wrote:Joost is definitely the best SH ever. No doubt.

No even Joost would say Gareth or Ken were better

rodders wrote:

valjester wrote:

rodders wrote:

valjester wrote:

maestegmafia wrote:
I rate that Marshall fella at Ulster, great skills and game reading, superb pace too.

And he is 27 and has a dodgy pass at times.

Bollix he does, he's the best passer in the country.

No, he's not. Stringer would be, and Marshall is a long way behind.

Stringer?? Do you still have a black and white TV as well? Think you've been reading the Indo too much Val....

Considering I don't live in the country anymore, no I don't, and I rarely did. Stringer still has the best pass of any Irish scrumhalf, its no longer anywhere near consistent enough as he once was though.

Marshall's pass is the weakest part of his game.

I cannot believe Rog is still on.

did Rog just kick that straight out?

O'Gara you clampet, he's doing his silly chip to try and make his forwards contest it again.

O'Gara, really.

This ref has all but killed what couldve been the best game of the year!!

Awful by O'Gara

maestegmafia wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:Joost is definitely the best SH ever. No doubt.

No even Joost would say Gareth or Ken were better

No, he won't. You obviously don't knowJoost very well.

Get Keatley on.

And leave him on for the rest of the season.

thebluesmancometh wrote:This ref has all but killed what couldve been the best game of the year!!

Couldnt agree more

If Munster had a decent OH they would have a very good team

Feckless Rogue wrote:Get Keatley on.

And leave him on for the rest of the season.

He is on, but at full back.

I think Sarries would have taken the BP given their lack of control. Take it back home & win preventing Munster winning.

Ive still enjoyed the game, but the ref is whistle happy, and why has he gone 180 since half time, penalising the attacking players in the first half constantly then not pinging the attackers 2nd half.

Golden wrote:If Munster had a decent OH they would have a very good team

They have two. One of whom could be the future irish 10.

Farrell finally gets a penalty kick between the posts.

15 - 9 78 mins gone.

Well done ROG gifting saracens a point

valjester wrote:

Feckless Rogue wrote:Get Keatley on.

And leave him on for the rest of the season.

He is on, but at full back.

Oh deary me. I hadn't actually noticed that.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

Golden wrote:If Munster had a decent OH they would have a very good team

They have two. One of whom could be the future irish 10.

Yeah fair enough but they have to play him first.

Keatley isnt amazing either. definitely an improvement on O Gara at the moment though.

FT 15 - 9 Munster concede the bonus point...

Those bonus points can come back to bite you.

Keatley has been good so far this season, but I hope Hanrahan will start at 10 for Munster very soon. Looks unlikely though with ROG consistently getting game time for Munster despite offering very little. Ah well.