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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:04 pm

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Just kicked off looks like it will be a bruising encounter

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:47 pm

FFS Rog, WTF are you at? Murray is box kicking quite well for a change but Rog's kicking has been hopeless.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:48 pm

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valjester wrote:The ref has given that for popping up in the scrum, which last night we were told wasn't a penalty, but more to the point Saracens popped first.

Sarries clearly won the hit. You could see that from the side.

Winning the hit is not a rule either Trev...!

Sarries hooker Britz was first up, valjester has a valid point.

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:49 pm

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
valjester wrote:The ref has given that for popping up in the scrum, which last night we were told wasn't a penalty, but more to the point Saracens popped first.

Sarries clearly won the hit. You could see that from the side.

Its quite easy to win the hit when you drive early, but that was not what he awarded the penalty for anyway so its irrelevant.

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Post by GunsGerms Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:49 pm

Daycent game. Would love a good fight to kick the second half off.

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Post by Pot Hale Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:55 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
Its practically a Curry Cup match with a bunch of irish players for good measure ... ha ha ha

One is a gold trophy donated to SA rugby by Sir Donald Currie in 1891 before the arrival of the touring British Isles team to South Africa.
The other is something to have possibly with your chips on Friday night after the pub.


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Post by Knackeredknees Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:56 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
valjester wrote:The ref has given that for popping up in the scrum, which last night we were told wasn't a penalty, but more to the point Saracens popped first.

Sarries clearly won the hit. You could see that from the side.


Winning the hit is not a rule either Trev...!

Sarries hooker Britz was first up, valjester has a valid point.

Popping up first is not a penality against you its a reset or penality for, check the laws. (i wish refs would)

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:57 pm

GunsGerms wrote:Daycent game. Would love a good fight to kick the second half off.

Why?

Headscratch

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 08 Dec 2012, 6:58 pm

valjester wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
valjester wrote:The ref has given that for popping up in the scrum, which last night we were told wasn't a penalty, but more to the point Saracens popped first.

Sarries clearly won the hit. You could see that from the side.

Its quite easy to win the hit when you drive early, but that was not what he awarded the penalty for anyway so its irrelevant.

Maybe but Ghyll managed to get underneath Botha & he lost his bind as he was going backwards & sideways.

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Post by Knackeredknees Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:00 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
Biltong wrote:There's a good number of SA born l,ayers in this game, I like watching how they do individually.

11 in Saracens alone.

Its practically a Curry Cup match with a bunch of irish players for good measure ... ha ha ha

Care to name them all Maes?

Or just trolling for the night?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:01 pm

Theres only 1 on munster's team isn't there?

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:02 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Theres only 1 on munster's team isn't there?

And DuPreez on the bench.

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Post by GunsGerms Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:03 pm

Hound_of_Harrow wrote:
GunsGerms wrote:Daycent game. Would love a good fight to kick the second half off.

Why?

Headscratch

Cause you cant bate a good brawl. Get everyone pumped for a big 2nd half .

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:09 pm

Munster haven't got a break from the officials all day.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:12 pm

That ref looks like he weights about as much as Borthwick's head.
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:12 pm

Knackeredknees wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
valjester wrote:The ref has given that for popping up in the scrum, which last night we were told wasn't a penalty, but more to the point Saracens popped first.

Sarries clearly won the hit. You could see that from the side.


Winning the hit is not a rule either Trev...!

Sarries hooker Britz was first up, valjester has a valid point.

Popping up first is not a penality against you its a reset or penality for, check the laws. (i wish refs would)

I know we all said the same. Ref is not having a great day

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Post by rodders Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:13 pm

OK just in...what have I missed? This one any good?

Come on Munster!
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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:14 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
Knackeredknees wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
BigTrevsbigmac wrote:
valjester wrote:The ref has given that for popping up in the scrum, which last night we were told wasn't a penalty, but more to the point Saracens popped first.

Sarries clearly won the hit. You could see that from the side.


Winning the hit is not a rule either Trev...!

Sarries hooker Britz was first up, valjester has a valid point.

Popping up first is not a penality against you its a reset or penality for, check the laws. (i wish refs would)

I know we all said the same. Ref is not having a great day


The standard of French reffing has unfortunately dropped off quite a bit since the days of Joel Jutge.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:14 pm

This scrum should be epic...!

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Post by George Carlin Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:15 pm

Munster's 9 has one of the best box kicks I've seen in ages.
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Post by Golden Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:15 pm

Jeeez didnt Saracens have 100% record in the lineout coming into this. how many have they lost so far?

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Post by mbernz Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:16 pm

Not sure what Brits brings around the park is worth it for Saracens at the moment, the lineout is costing them big.

Cracking game.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:16 pm

Saracens are going to get man binned very soon for the breakdown.

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Post by Biltong Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:16 pm

About 5 I think
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:17 pm

15 - 6

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:17 pm

George Carlin wrote:Munster's 9 has one of the best box kicks I've seen in ages.

That's the most frustrating thing, he has a huge boot and can be excellent on his day but sometimes they are terrible.

Its also annoying when Rog calls for the ball for a clearance kick when Murray can clear it further with a box kick.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:18 pm

I wont hear anyone question earls physicality he just smashed Ashton.

He has also waltzed through the Saries midfield about eight times.

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:19 pm

FFS never ever let a ball bounce.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:20 pm

Ref won't let the game develope. Blows his whistle for everything

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:20 pm

maestegmafia wrote:I wont hear anyone question earls physicality he just smashed Ashton.

He has also waltzed through the Saries midfield about eight times.

His feet and body movements are so quick that he can make a half break through gaps that most people wouldn't even think about going through.


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Post by GunsGerms Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:21 pm

valjester wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Munster's 9 has one of the best box kicks I've seen in ages.

That's the most frustrating thing, he has a huge boot and can be excellent on his day but sometimes they are terrible.

Its also annoying when Rog calls for the ball for a clearance kick when Murray can clear it further with a box kick.

Murrays bk is cak. Ususlly too long, rarely any accuracy.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:21 pm

Farrell misses again.

15 - 6 still 57 minutes gone

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:23 pm

Rog destroys quick ball.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:24 pm

Lovely line from Downey there. Sarries midfield are having an awful day. Lucky Lualala wasnt playing.

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Post by rodders Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:24 pm

Damn Donnacha O'Callaghan was clean through there! censored
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Post by GunsGerms Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:24 pm

valjester wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:I wont hear anyone question earls physicality he just smashed Ashton.

He has also waltzed through the Saries midfield about eight times.

His feet and body movements are so quick that he can make a half break through gaps that most people wouldn't even think about going through.


Agreed

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Post by Golden Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:24 pm

Thought Farrell was a pressure kicker?

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Post by Feckless Rogue Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:25 pm

I think a try from Munster would finish off Sarries here. Cmon Munster.
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:26 pm

I dont think anyone in the Munster team has had a stomach bug this week. Farrell, Barritt, Ashton and Botha looking very average this weekend.


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Post by nth Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:26 pm

3 missed kicks and 5 lost lineouts for Saracens, they're very kindly handing Munster this game on a plate. If Munster can deny Saracens the losing bonus point I think they'll top the group.

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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:27 pm

GunsGerms wrote:
valjester wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Munster's 9 has one of the best box kicks I've seen in ages.

That's the most frustrating thing, he has a huge boot and can be excellent on his day but sometimes they are terrible.

Its also annoying when Rog calls for the ball for a clearance kick when Murray can clear it further with a box kick.

Murrays bk is cak. Ususlly too long, rarely any accuracy.


It has been excellent today, and there have been a lot of matches were it has been spot on. The chase can be the difference between a bad and a good box kick.

Rog is killing the Munster momentum, he is standing too deep and not offering any option to Murray. Munster seem to be using anyone besides Rog as a first receiver if possible.


Docv2's best ever game for Munster.

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Post by Feckless Rogue Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:29 pm

Murray. steam

I have grave concerns about this chap playing for Ireland. Sometimes he looks like a decent 9. But mistakes and poorly executed kicks/passes are pretty much a constant feature of his game.
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Post by Golden Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:29 pm

What a tackle dont think that was try

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Post by rodders Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

No try.
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Post by Feckless Rogue Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

try or no try?
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Post by valjester Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

Feckless Rogue wrote:Murray. steam

I have grave concerns about this chap playing for Ireland. Sometimes he looks like a decent 9. But mistakes and poorly executed kicks/passes are pretty much a constant feature of his game.

He has had a great game today, two passes aside, and brilliant defence there.

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

Great defence by Munster...

How did Sarries butcher a three man over lap...?

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Post by Golden Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:30 pm

Nope thats not a try. Great defence

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:31 pm

Sarries applying the pressure now & nearly score. Good defence by Munster.

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:31 pm

Feckless Rogue wrote:Murray. steam

I have grave concerns about this chap playing for Ireland. Sometimes he looks like a decent 9. But mistakes and poorly executed kicks/passes are pretty much a constant feature of his game.
Agree with this. He is a great 9 when he's hot but he is just too inconsistent.

Marmion will be our next 9

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat 08 Dec 2012, 7:32 pm

maestegmafia wrote:Great defence by Munster...

How did Sarries butcher a three man over lap...?

You answered your question - great defence!

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