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Post by Liam Sat 22 Dec 2012, 12:12 pm

Thought i'd set up a new page for the game today starting at 1:30. I'm predicting an India win unfortunately.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 12:46 pm

Any chance of it being rained off? pretty wet here Whistle

cricinfo are predicting England to swap Dernbach for Harris otherwise be unchanged.
hardly fills one with confidence does it.

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Post by Shelsey93 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 12:52 pm

Root plays, but in place of Briggs not Lumb. No cap for Harris.

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Post by Liam Sat 22 Dec 2012, 12:53 pm

Yeh Dernbach was average at best in the last T20. As a Glammy fan I'd love to see Harris in an England shirt, just not a T20 shirt. His game just isn't suited to it (Apart from his batting of course).

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Post by Liam Sat 22 Dec 2012, 12:54 pm

Shelsey93 wrote:Root plays, but in place of Briggs not Lumb. No cap for Harris.

Perhaps because Root can bowl a bit of spin. Harsh on Briggs, everyone knows my feelings on Lumb. Rather a youngster in Briggs carry on than someone in their 30's who struggles against spin.

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Post by Shelsey93 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 12:56 pm

I don't see the logic in playing Lumb again. Ashwin will surely come straight on.

If restricted to this squad I'd have just put Root up the top.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:13 pm

they did need to do something about the batting depth and the squad is very short on options.

Given Patel wasnt even used in the last game theres already enough bowling ( although personally I wouldve had shot of him, and dernbach for Waokes too)

Im not really sure about Root in T20 but ho hum

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:51 pm

Afternoon all,

I see England's ugly scrappy bowling continues after an unusually tidy first two overs.

15 off that, this second string are deeply flawed. Can England not pick an even half good side for these matches? I admire them having more guts than India to experiment but there are limits.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 22 Dec 2012, 1:59 pm

20 off Wright's over.... Shocked

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:10 pm


Yeah Wrights made amends for his horror over already!


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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:11 pm

71 - 3 couple of wickets have brought England back into it a bit...

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:13 pm

Gambhir looks like hes batting to save a test match

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:25 pm

But Gambhir falls to wright who has made a good comeback after horrendous first over.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:40 pm

Credit where it is due, the bowlers have tidied up after that mess well at the moment.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:41 pm

Pity for england India bat so deep, theyve kept taking wickets through the game but still cant peg the rate back enough to look in control.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:50 pm

this is big a case of "fulfil the fixture because we have to" as I've seen from the ECB. They were here for tests not this.

Now we have ODI's coming up. Bored stiff of it myself, wish they'd move onto the kiwi test series, had quite enough India series of late.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:53 pm

Good point on Indias batting depth, especially with eng stripped of all bowlers. No surprise this is happening.

allow the india fans to go mad and pretend the tests never happened and sadly sours englands tour a bit.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 22 Dec 2012, 2:59 pm

Surrey pair go for 38 in two overs.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:14 pm

If we had our best batsmen then we might have a chance but I doubt this lineup will get within 20.

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:16 pm

177. Pretty chaseable ?

Wouldn't be betting my house on England getting it , but if not too many of them commit suicide they must have a fair chance. Morgan due a big one...

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:23 pm

177 is getable but you wouldnt look at a side that only has two good batsmen, one of whome is off form, and expect them to get it.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:25 pm

Yeah few good batsmen short of competitive today.

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:29 pm

With India's bowling, 177 doesn't make me hyper confident. But a good score nevertheless, fine efforts from Kohli and Dhoni, and Raina too did alright.
Gautam Gambhir proves yet again its time he's send back to domestic cricket.

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:29 pm

Bright start , anyway. Couple of fielding fumbles , dew might aid England later...I dare to be hopeful...

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:32 pm

Good first over for England. 12 of it.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:33 pm

Jeepers MSP I see what you mean about certain Indian bowlers

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:34 pm

Seems like Dhoni missed a trick by not bringing Ashwin on against Lumb. He's enjoying the pace on the ball here. This is turning out to be a fine start for England already.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:34 pm

Good was 38 from two overs like India did. 12 seems very mild.

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:37 pm

The boundaries are shorter by a meter or so than it was in the firstt match and even the top edges are flying away for 6.

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:38 pm

13 off the second

They're improving Smile

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:39 pm

12 of the first over from Dinda, and Awana has followed up with a 13 run 2nd over. England in charge.

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:43 pm

Well that was bad cricket all round : 7-2 field , bowls a short rubbish ball , batsman picks out the one man in a hundred yards on the leg , and he spills a sitter !
Gives us all hope ...

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:46 pm

Dhoni did speak about the improved fielding after the first match. Sorry skipper, spoke too soon!. Dreadful drop that was.

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:49 pm

Awana isn't having a good game, a horrible drop, the ball is following him a bit and that over he bowled wasn't great either.
6 of Ashwin's first over, a sense of control for India the first time, some panicked running in that over from England.

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Post by msp83 Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:51 pm

Dhoni continuing with Awana and pace is going for plenty of runs.
India are without Jadeja today.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:51 pm

More Awana, brilliant

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:52 pm

Lumb moves on to 35 - his highest T20 score

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:54 pm

For a fellow who everyone thinks is rubbish , Lumb isn't doing too badly here...

Don't think India will want to bowl too much more pace today.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:58 pm

Pace was our undoing, wierd we came in with less spin options today.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 3:59 pm

Lumbs best ever innings for england....about time!

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:00 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Pace was our undoing, wierd we came in with less spin options today.

Not really...the worst was the 18 took of the guy who was dropped, and neither spinner did much. The third spinner wasnt used in either match theyve always had a spare.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:02 pm

alfie wrote:For a fellow who everyone thinks is rubbish , Lumb isn't doing too badly here...

Don't think India will want to bowl too much more pace today.

true but I know a lot of monkeys who cant type, the one who banged out the Harry Potter series doesnt change that

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:04 pm

13 overs at 8.5 with all your wickets in hand ...could be doable but they have to figure out how to score off chawla

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:08 pm

Fifty for Lumb. clap

May indeed be "about time too" , but credit where it's due , this has been a good knock.

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:09 pm

Indeed.

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:09 pm

Dangerman Yuvraj on now...and strikes immediately !

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:11 pm

And he goes as we say something nice.

And suddenly it looks a million miles away again.

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:13 pm

In a way I think I would tweak the batting order after that opening stand , and have Morgan in straight away...but let us hope Wright can carry it on ...just don't want to lose several quick wickets , as this is now quite getable.

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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:14 pm

England have bags of wickets in hand and a better rate to get tahn when they started, we had Lumb down as 10 anyway so really there has to be more optimism than when the innings started.

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Post by alfie Sat 22 Dec 2012, 4:21 pm

Trouble with this twenty over thing is you can't really afford even an over or two of not much scoring. And Yuvraj is proving a problem again.
...and as I type he gets number two...

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