The Hull Kingston Rovers Thread

by Luke Fri 18 Jan 2013, 1:47 pm

First topic message reminder :

The title of the thread says it all.

by Luke Mon 22 Apr 2019, 12:23 pm

2nd half they were just a shambles. Defense poor as per usual, attack one paced and easy to defend. And a very questionable attitude.Hull were okay but nothing special, but we made them look like world beaters.

by Luke Wed 24 Apr 2019, 6:56 am

Well, after scoring 18 and conceding 110, you could say I'm glad Easters out the way.
Big game at Leeds this Sunday.

by George Hotel1895 Fri 26 Apr 2019, 9:07 am

Antoni Maria signs on loan. I think a good stop gap signing
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/48045901

by The Beast Sat 27 Apr 2019, 10:55 am

George Hotel1895 wrote:Antoni Maria signs on loan. I think a good stop gap signing
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/48045901

Certainly better than having no option but to play back rowers at prop. Good luck Sunday, hope you get the usual Rovers reaction after a couple of bad results (in fairness you played Warrington at exactly the wrong time IMO).

by George Hotel1895 Wed 01 May 2019, 12:25 pm

The Beast wrote:
George Hotel1895 wrote:Antoni Maria signs on loan. I think a good stop gap signing
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/48045901

Certainly better than having no option but to play back rowers at prop. Good luck Sunday, hope you get the usual Rovers reaction after a couple of bad results (in fairness you played Warrington at exactly the wrong time IMO).

Indeed

by The Beast Fri 10 May 2019, 7:32 pm

A defeat yes, but a better performance by all accounts? Cup tomorrow, Salford away feels a bit of a free hit. Hopefully you can some forwards back asap.

Sounds like you are looking at Bulls winger Ethan Ryan. I would be disappointed to see him go but he deserves his chance, one of the best wingers outside of SL IMO. Fantastic finisher and perhaps more impressive he can defend.

by The Beast Sun 12 May 2019, 6:57 am

Great result for KR yesterday, a welcome boost for sure.

by Luke Sun 12 May 2019, 4:24 pm

Yeah. And a decent performance. Need to turn it on in the league, but this cup run should give us some confidence.

by George Hotel1895 Mon 13 May 2019, 2:25 pm

Luke wrote:Yeah. And a decent performance. Need to turn it on in the league, but this cup run should give us some confidence.

It should, but lets hope you don't pick up any injuries along the way.
Like you i believe a good cup run is great as confidence builder, and to get to Wembley and play in a cup final must be really great and a great day out for the fans of any club

by The Beast Mon 13 May 2019, 4:32 pm

Warrington at home, they will be favourites but at the KC hopefully a big crowd not impossible.

by The Beast Mon 13 May 2019, 4:34 pm

Interesting that Leeds were apparently trying to get Maguire back for the rest of the season.

by Luke Mon 13 May 2019, 7:44 pm

The Beast wrote:Interesting that Leeds were apparently trying to get Maguire back for the rest of the season.

I think that says more about the problems at Leeds, than anything McGuire us doing. Personally not against it that much, if it gives Atkins a ru, and helps us re-sign him.
Looks like Shaw,Lee,Lunt not being offered a new contract. Shane about Shaw as I like him

by George Hotel1895 Sat 18 May 2019, 10:03 am

The Beast wrote:Interesting that Leeds were apparently trying to get Maguire back for the rest of the season.

It begs the question, "Why did they let him go?"

by The Beast Sat 18 May 2019, 10:22 am

I have not seen it but sounds like you were on the wrong end of a tough call last night. I still think you will be ok.......when you get your forwards back.

Looks like Jordan Abdul is heading your way for next season.

by The Beast Sat 18 May 2019, 10:25 am

George Hotel1895 wrote:
The Beast wrote:Interesting that Leeds were apparently trying to get Maguire back for the rest of the season.
It begs the question, "Why did they let him go?"

Kevin Sinfield answered that on Thursday, there is something wrong at Leeds at the moment which could yet see them relegated. If at the hands of KR would be quite the irony.

by Luke Sat 18 May 2019, 5:14 pm

The Beast wrote:I have not seen it but sounds like you were on the wrong end of a tough call last night. I still think you will be ok.......when you get your forwards back.

Looks like Jordan Abdul is heading your way for next season.

It wasn't the call that cost us. The 2nd half performance was dire. No go forward, and dire defence. Been a problem all season. We should be okay, but I feel that will be more to do with other teams problems than anything we do.

Not sure about Abdul. There's a talented players in there, just doesn't do it enough for me. And I just don't think he's the player that will take us forward.

by The Beast Sun 19 May 2019, 4:10 pm

Luke wrote:
The Beast wrote:Interesting that Leeds were apparently trying to get Maguire back for the rest of the season.

I think that says more about the problems at Leeds, than anything McGuire us doing. Personally not against it that much, if it gives Atkins a ru, and helps us re-sign him.
Looks like Shaw,Lee,Lunt not being offered a new contract. Shane about Shaw as I like him

It would not be the biggest shock if effectively Shaw & Ethan Ryan swapped clubs. Lunt I am sure will find a club, perhaps Championship but he can still do a job.

by Luke Mon 20 May 2019, 11:09 pm

Apparently, it's because we couldn't say we were certainly giving them contracts us why they're up. We could still re-sign them.
Lunt gas gone unfortunately,mainly due to his injuries. Championship us probably the right level now. But a good servant,and excellent player previously.
I like Shaw, he's improved massively, and us a bit unsung. Personally would keep him. Don't know alot about Ryan, so maybe.

Scruton and Jewitt leave the club. Scruton retired due to injuries. Solid player in his career,and was good when he managed to get on the Field. But that wasn't enough.
Jewitt taking time away also because if injuries.

by The Beast Sun 26 May 2019, 6:52 am

Shame for Scruton, I was a real workhorse at Bradford and I was disappointed when he left through one of the financial meltdowns (been so many I can't remember which).

I see you have Minns back next year who seems to be in a better place and should be a positive signing.

Good luck later, it would be good to see you get the win.

by The Beast Mon 27 May 2019, 8:11 am

I went out and saw the Salford win. Much needed and important, strange game as Salford seemed completely lost for 50 minutes but for some reason KR stopped running hard. I though Garbutt went well for you and whilst I (& many others) have bagged him McGuire short kicking game was exceptional I can't remember a grubber that they did not need to defend or did create panic.

Rumours are that Sheens is leaving to be replaced by James Ford (York). Apparently the COH academy is to be scrapped and the two clubs to have separate entities. KR's led by John Bastian (Bradford) which if correct is a fantastic signing for you, he has been exceptional at Bradford.

by Luke Wed 29 May 2019, 8:41 pm

It is true. Bastian us coming in to run our academy. May take a couple if years but I have high hopes. As you say what he's done at Bradford us fantastic. So hopefully will turn our poor youth around.
The CHOA us closing, never really worked, and this is probably the right idea. Especially if the reserve league us now implemented.
McGuire becoming head if recruitment as well, is an interesting move.
The rumours about Sheen's I will wait to comment on if they become true. The one thing I will say, is I believe it the right way getting a young English coach to go if he does leave.
Oh and Minns us only till the end of this year at the moment.

As for Sunday, typical Rovers, played well for a while, then stop doing what was making us win. But as you say an important win, and a needed win. Garbutt has been immense all season.
Now a free hit on Friday, nice to get a win and another semi, but if we get the expected loss hopefully it's not by alot to ruin any confidence.

by George Hotel1895 Thu 30 May 2019, 8:47 am

An excellent win for the Robins over the Red Devils and with Leeds beating London i Hull KR are more or less safe for the season as i can't see London winning another game

by Luke Tue 04 Jun 2019, 11:00 pm

I can as we've still got to play them twice.
I think your right though, but it's been a struggle when really it shouldn't have been. Not saying we should be higher up, but with the squad we have we should be doing slightly better.
Though why Tim keeps having one unused sub is beyond me, once okay, regularly we're just hampering ourselves.

Also this speculation about Tim is bad, if he's going announce it,as all this is doing us harming recruitment.

Though rumours are we've got Abdul and Minikin. Never been overly impressed with Abdul, there's a player there but not regularly. Minikin if true us a strange one, as we have Crooks, Hall (though contract up end of season), VaiVai, Kleinhorst, so wouldn't have thought a priority. But decent signing, and makes me think that the Ford rumour is true as he played for ford at York.

by Luke Wed 05 Jun 2019, 11:11 pm

And Sheen's is sacked with immediate effect.

Not a surprise. And while he did get us out if the championship, you do have to cavite that with we had a ridiculously strong squad in the weakest championship for years.
Injuries certainly haven't helped, but the boring rugby, team selection quirks and unused subs. Haven't helped, and it's not really a suprise.
Now Mr personally, Ford is 90% certain to be the new coach. Then keep Hodgson and Webster as interim and let him finish the great job he's doing at York this season, keeping the goodwill with York.

by Luke Thu 06 Jun 2019, 10:45 pm

And the new coach for the rest of this season is...Tony Smith.
Just did not see this coming.

by The Beast Sun 09 Jun 2019, 10:44 am

I was just thinking they are making a porridge of not saying anything and then sacking Sheens, Smith however looks an excellent signing for both parties. Good luck today, important game.

by Luke Tue 11 Jun 2019, 11:13 pm

So a bad weekend for Rovers. A better display but still a defeat, meanwhile London get an excellent win v Saints. Putting us both level on points. And with Warrington at home (3rd time in less than 2 months) probably again ending in defeat

. Makes next Thursday's game in London a massive game.

by The Beast Thu 13 Jun 2019, 7:22 pm

Those two results were a kick in the nuts no doubt about it. Credit to London they battle hard however a side at Saints level should not be losing that game.

20/6 yes massive, tomorrow night Leeds/Wigan not insignificant either. Still plenty of rugby to be played, I still think you will be ok.......just.

by Luke Fri 14 Jun 2019, 1:07 pm

True. There are a lot of important matches between now and the end of the season. And there will be swings and roundabouts. And despite it being my team, in a way I'm glad that London are fighting and it's not just them going straight down. Otherwise this year would be boring.
Hopefully it will be alright. I think we should just have enough.

Latest rumours are Leeds and Rivers could be looking to swap hookers. Leeds getting Lunt, Rovers getting Parcell, which would be a great deal if it gets done.

by Luke Sat 15 Jun 2019, 7:01 pm

Typical.
Rovers pick up a much needed 2point win v Warrington. And straight afterwards London go to Catalan and get a great win themselves.

by Luke Mon 17 Jun 2019, 7:37 pm

So Thursday's game between ourselves and London becomes bigger due to us both on even points. It's not the biggest game of the season too many games keft, but it could be a defining game in how both go on.

In other news.
Craig Hall has signed a new 1 year deal for next season. Useless as a defender, but naturally gifted in attack, I like this as since he returned to the club, he has been performing well.
And on the down side, it looks more likely that Atkin us gone (Salford it looks like). Wasted at Rovers as he should have been out starting Hb for the last 2 years, and we should have been looking to build a side around him. Instead Sheen's used him as a bit part player in a number of roles.

by The Beast Tue 18 Jun 2019, 6:12 pm

Luke wrote:So Thursday's game between ourselves and London becomes bigger due to us both on even points. It's not the biggest game of the season too many games keft, but it could be a defining game in how both go on.

In other news.
Craig Hall has signed a new 1 year deal for next season. Useless as a defender, but naturally gifted in attack, I like this as since he returned to the club, he has been performing well.
And on the down side, it looks more likely that Atkin us gone (Salford it looks like). Wasted at Rovers as he should have been out starting Hb for the last 2 years, and we should have been looking to build a side around him. Instead Sheen's used him as a bit part player in a number of roles.

It's no over for the loser on Thursday but yes no question an important game, good luck.

Good news Re; Hall I can't however understand why only 1 year? You don't want players unnecessarily distracted mid-season by looking at offers where possible IMO.

I see you have Harvey Livett for a month from Warrington. Looks a good player from what I have seen and I can see him fitting in well.

by Luke Wed 19 Jun 2019, 1:35 pm

I think n our case, it's important that we back up Saturday with a win to try and get on a role. Same for London, so in that sense it's important. But there's still 2 months to go for it to be majorly important to anything but the here and now.
The 1year thing with Hall I tend to think is so he doesn't become complacent with the security (I could be completely wrong about this).
Livett yeah us a good signing, but maybe not what we need as with Hall, Quinlan,Dagger,Crooks,Shaw,Oakes, Kleinhorst and if course VaiVai (at York at the moment), the back division is not our major problem.

by The Beast Sun 23 Jun 2019, 7:42 am

Tight game, tough loss. I thought too many ball handling errors when you had that lead cost in the end. I also thought Crookes would score from the interception but he appeared to be stuck in treacle.

Plenty of time but now KR have to start winning, Thursday will be tough but I suspect the Leeds & Wigan games might prove to be crucial.

by Luke Sun 23 Jun 2019, 2:05 pm

To be honest I thought London fully deserved there victory, they respected the ball and Abdull was excellent in controlling London's play. The mistakes did kill us, but it was disappointing after coming back into and taking the lead that we just seem to stop playing.
Thursday i can see either another result like GF, or a really tight win.

by George Hotel1895 Tue 25 Jun 2019, 8:27 pm

Luke wrote:To be honest I thought London fully deserved there victory, they respected the ball and Abdull was excellent in controlling London's play. The mistakes did kill us, but it was disappointing after coming back into and taking the lead that we just seem to stop playing.
Thursday i can see either another result like GF, or a really tight win.

I think if you can win 3 more games you will be safe as i can't see London winning any more than 2 games the rest of this season, as you have a better points difference

by Luke Wed 26 Jun 2019, 1:40 am

Hope so George.

Junior VaiVai has left the club, and joined Toulouse (not sure on his contract).
Shame as he really did burst onto the scene,but since signing his new contract last year just seemed to go backwards.
Hopefully this will rejuvenate him and I wish him the best.
With Livett on a months loan, not surprising. And also free's up the quota place for Parcel joining from Leeds.

by The Beast Wed 26 Jun 2019, 7:08 pm

Parcell move confirmed today. I like Lunt but I have to say that looks an excellent piece of business for you, particularly with Garbutt being back in your squad.

by George Hotel1895 Wed 26 Jun 2019, 7:36 pm

The Beast wrote:Parcell move confirmed today. I like Lunt but I have to say that looks an excellent piece of business for you, particularly with Garbutt being back in your squad.

Agreed. I think Parcell is a better player than Lunt

by Luke Thu 27 Jun 2019, 12:07 am

The Beast wrote:Parcell move confirmed today. I like Lunt but I have to say that looks an excellent piece of business for you, particularly with Garbutt being back in your squad.

Totally agree, only issue that I have with it is that it's on loan till the end of the season. Would have much preferred to just sign him to a contract now, rather than risk losing him at the end of the season.

by Luke Fri 28 Jun 2019, 3:02 am

Well that was an unexpected result. Played really well and for me ran out deserved winners. Crooks try is just brilliant.

Also just how tough was Westerns.

by The Beast Sun 30 Jun 2019, 8:55 am

Very entertaining game, I thought KR played some excellent rugby on the back on hard work from the forwards. I was a bit concerned after an hour when they scored (12 - 10) as the ball movement was there without the hard yards being made.

Crooks try was outstanding, scoping up the ball at that pace was fantastic skill. Westerman...........just when you think you've seen it all.

I see you have Daniel Murray who I think is another good signing and IMO has the potential in the next 3-4 years to be a top SL prop.

Vaivai left presumably to make quota place for Parcell. Another good move, exciting with the ball as he is, defence is all over the place from what I have seen.

by The Beast Sun 30 Jun 2019, 8:57 am

Just to add hopefully today's results will go in your favour.

by Luke Sun 30 Jun 2019, 11:26 am

The Beast wrote:Very entertaining game, I thought KR played some excellent rugby on the back on hard work from the forwards. I was a bit concerned after an hour when they scored (12 - 10) as the ball movement was there without the hard yards being made.

Crooks try was outstanding, scoping up the ball at that pace was fantastic skill. Westerman...........just when you think you've seen it all.

I see you have Daniel Murray who I think is another good signing and IMO has the potential in the next 3-4 years to be a top SL prop.

Vaivai left presumably to make quota place for Parcell. Another good move, exciting with the ball as he is, defence is all over the place from what I have seen.

The fact we couldn't put Hull to bed was a worry. If we'd won by another couple of scores I don't think anyone would complain. Hull were off form, but alot if that was because we didn't let them play or establish a platform.

Murray agree, again only on loan (Lannons gone back to Salford), whilst I understand the reasons. I would just prefer to sign these players and build the side.
Also agree about VaiVai, more last year excellent with ball in hand, a real attacking talent. Defensively a liability, made worse by our wingers not being great. Can see him doing very good in the championship, and good luck to him.

by The Beast Sun 30 Jun 2019, 6:52 pm

Agreed, particularly over the derby game, their timing was off, due to the hard work by your forwards.

by The Beast Sun 07 Jul 2019, 5:50 am

I will admit I thought it would be difficult against a resurgent Wigan but did not expect 50, apparently they were very good. Next week at Leeds is a big game and a big performance will be needed. Good news is of course that London were well beaten at home by Wire.

by Luke Sun 07 Jul 2019, 7:55 am

It's a bad defeat.not unexpected in anyway just bad on points difference, and we play them there again within a month.
Having seen the tries, looks like we were really poor in defence.
As long as we keep winning or home games that should keep us going. But Leeds is big, as a win brings them back into it.

by George Hotel1895 Fri 12 Jul 2019, 8:27 am

Good result for your club last night with London losing and now you need to beat Leeds

by Luke Fri 12 Jul 2019, 2:12 pm

Next week could be the big one (Huddersfield at Home), not expecting slot from tonight. Just hope we put in a performance,that was lacking last week.

by The Beast Sat 13 Jul 2019, 9:02 am

Well that it nothing short of a massive result and well deserved. I saw some of game whilst out, KR played some fantastic rugby, Quinlan's try was magic, Linnett and Hauraki were top class. McGuire again I owe an apology to after suggesting he might not finish the season completely outplaying Myler.

They of course must back this up next week but a win and a London/Leeds loss will make life a lot more comfortable.

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