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Post by Luke Fri Jan 18, 2013 1:47 pm

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Post by Luke Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:15 pm

It was a great performance, especially after last week's result. We clicked, and looked good. Though helped by Leeds being poor. McGuire was always going to have a good game with it being his last ever appearance at Headingley.
Could really do with Hull beating Leeds next week. Still think London, but the form Wakefield and Huddersfield are on could see them slip up.
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Post by George Hotel1895 Sat Jul 13, 2019 4:05 pm

The Beast wrote:Well that it nothing short of a massive result and well deserved.  I saw some of game whilst out, KR played some fantastic rugby, Quinlan's try was magic, Linnett and Hauraki were top class.  McGuire again I owe an apology to after suggesting he might not finish the season completely outplaying Myler.

They of course must back this up next week but a win and a London/Leeds loss will make life a lot more comfortable.
You are playing some very attractive Rugby League Football under Tony Smith and winning.

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Post by The Beast Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:04 am

Disappointing result last night, a shame as a win following last weeks' showing would have set you nicely for the rest of the campaign.

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Post by George Hotel1895 Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:22 am

The Beast wrote:Disappointing result last night, a shame as a win following last weeks' showing would have set you nicely for the rest of the campaign.
I must admit i was surprised they lost to the Giants and i don't suppose i would be alone

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Post by Luke Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:31 am

I wasn't really.
We haven't won 2 games in a row all season, plus Huddersfield stuffed us twice at there place. And with Warrington calling back Johnson and Livett and Parcell's injury. We were always going to be against the wall.
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Post by George Hotel1895 Sat Jul 20, 2019 11:35 am

Luke wrote:I wasn't really.
We haven't won 2 games in a row all season, plus Huddersfield stuffed us twice at there place. And with Warrington calling back Johnson and Livett and Parcell's injury. We were always going to be against the wall.
I still don't think you will be relegated. Not unless you get a horrendous injury situation

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Post by Luke Sat Jul 20, 2019 12:07 pm

No, I agree. There are a few teams on a terrible run of form. Plus I'm not sure London will win enough games.
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Post by George Hotel1895 Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:41 am

Luke wrote:No, I agree. There are a few teams on a terrible run of form. Plus I'm not sure London will win enough games.
I don't think London will win another game this season even today against a weakened Saints side

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Post by The Beast Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:18 pm

I agree that London are still favourites for relegation despite today's result however Wakefield now have to be in the frame with their spectacular fall down the table. I saw the first half of their game v Wigan, yes the Warriors are playing well but Wakey looked every inch a championship side.

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Post by George Hotel1895 Sun Jul 21, 2019 6:07 pm

The Beast wrote:I agree that London are still favourites for relegation despite today's result however Wakefield now have to be in the frame with their spectacular fall down the table.  I saw the first half of their game v Wigan, yes the Warriors are playing well but Wakey looked every inch a championship side.
Like you i think London will get relegated, but still worrying times for the Robins, the Rhinos and Wakey

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Post by The Beast Sun Aug 04, 2019 5:14 pm

Big win today, nice to see KR getting over the line in a tight finish.

Wigan away next will be tough, I would be more focused on Wakey at home the following week.

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Post by Luke Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:50 pm

Yeah, a good win.
Think we only really need to win one of wakey or London at home to stay up. London's big loss today means points difference is on our side.
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Post by The Beast Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:47 pm

I see you have brought Kyle Trout for the rest of the season, not a big name but he is IMO a good player. Doubly pleased as he won't play against the Bulls in a couple of weeks!

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Post by George Hotel1895 Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:46 pm

Luke wrote:Yeah, a good win.
Think we only really need to win one of wakey or London at home to stay up. London's big loss today means points difference is on our side.
After this weekends results i would be amazed if you were relegated

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Post by George Hotel1895 Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:49 pm

The Beast wrote:I see you have brought Kyle Trout for the rest of the season, not a big name but he is IMO a good player.   Doubly pleased as he won't play against the Bulls in a couple of weeks!
Strange signing in my opinion as didn't cut it at Wakey, but obviously Tony Smith would know far more about his ability than i would

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Post by Luke Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:45 pm

It's an interesting signing. Not one I would have expected, but hopefully a decent one for rest of the season.
Strange how we're going for signings next year. As if you look at the believed signings most are players with a point to prove. Trout is only loan rest if the year so far but Ryan, Minikin,Hadley,Litten, Abdul. Could be a strong core for a while with the players we've already got.
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Post by George Hotel1895 Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:16 am

With London losing again last night its certain now that you wont be relegated now as London have to win at least 2 more games and that isn't going to happen

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Post by The Beast Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:36 pm

I see London going down but I don't think its quite over yet. They have Catalans away next week who have multiple suspensions, KR & Wakey on the last game.

If London don't win and KR beat Wakey then yes that might seal it and put the latter under a lot of pressure.

Looks you are getting McClelland on loan next year from Leeds who looks useful. I saw him in a academy game, granted behind a dominant pack but he certainly took the line on. He has also being doing well in their reserves i.e. Featherstone.

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Post by Luke Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:12 pm

I think we will stay up, as we're doing well at home. And both home games left are against teams directly in competition with us (Wakefield this week, London the other one). And with the way other teams form is going think we'll just have enough.

Saw that about McClelland, it's an interesting one. A him and Abdull Hb partnership could be a very exciting one. And our pack isn't the main issue with the team with the likes of Garbutt,Tompkins,Harauki, etc. We could be an exciting team to watch next year😀 (I say that at the start of every year). WI be interesting to see who leaves.
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Post by Luke Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:13 pm

I should add if we're going the youngster route,would prefer Micky Lewis, who a) us already a Rovers player, B) did very well on loan at Newcastle.
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Post by Luke Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:49 pm

Absolutely dire performance. No go forward or defence. To turn in that performance in a important game is worrying.
London have ourselves and Wakey, and I still think will go down. But not without a fight, and can't see much change next year either.
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Post by The Beast Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:46 pm

Luke wrote:Absolutely dire performance. No go forward or defence. To turn in that performance in a important game is worrying.
London have ourselves and Wakey, and I still think will go down. But not without a fight, and can't see much change next year either.

i must admit to be stunned at that scoreline. OK being relegated should be not the disaster of old but some have to realise they are literally playing for their jobs. Still in your hands but game on for sure.

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Post by Luke Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:34 am

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Luke wrote:Absolutely dire performance. No go forward or defence. To turn in that performance in a important game is worrying.
London have ourselves and Wakey, and I still think will go down. But not without a fight, and can't see much change next year either.

i must admit to be stunned at that scoreline.  OK being relegated should be not the disaster of old but some have to realise they are literally playing for their jobs.  Still in your hands but game on for sure.

It will be interesting should we get relegated again. The championship is an excellent division. But if as expected Toronto go up, it's a very even division. And be interesting to see how the club and fans react to it all again.

As for the fixtures, London's are most interesting as they play sides around them (Leeds,Us, Wakefield). We're as we've got a couple of real banana skins (Catalan and Salford away). Your right still in our hands but make the next rs after the cup final very interesting.
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Post by George Hotel1895 Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:45 pm

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Luke wrote:Absolutely dire performance. No go forward or defence. To turn in that performance in a important game is worrying.
London have ourselves and Wakey, and I still think will go down. But not without a fight, and can't see much change next year either.

i must admit to be stunned at that scoreline.  OK being relegated should be not the disaster of old but some have to realise they are literally playing for their jobs.  Still in your hands but game on for sure.

It will be interesting should we get relegated again. The championship is an excellent division. But if as expected Toronto go up, it's a very even division. And be interesting to see how the club and fans react to it all again.

As for the fixtures, London's are most interesting as they play sides around them (Leeds,Us, Wakefield). We're as we've got a couple of real banana skins (Catalan and Salford away). Your right still in our hands but make the next rs after the cup final very interesting.
You wont go down.

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Post by The Beast Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:30 am

Good day yesterday Smith extends his contract and a good (essential) win in France), big game next week a win would seal it for you and London. A loss and it's back on given that they have Wakey which I can see them in necessary winning and KR are at Salford.

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Post by Luke Mon Sep 02, 2019 5:18 pm

True Saturday was a good day. Smith signing will wait and see the impact (we got excited by sheens and and that was boring rugby). But on paper great signing.

Friday was always going to be a big game given its against London. But it's taken on extra significance after the weekend results. It's just a game that hopefully we will be up for, and get the result.
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Post by Luke Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:26 pm

Rovers have confirmed that Josh Drinkwater, Chris Atkin and James Greenwood. Are to leave at the end of the season. Disappointed with the Atkin one (who's going to Salford), otherwise not really surprised with these 3. It will be an interesting pre season.
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Post by The Beast Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:28 am

Talk of Shaun Kenny-Dowall for next season, presumably dependent on SL status.

I saw the game last night on TV, first 20 killed you. Credit to get back in but again once in lead as a neutral looking in they seemed to stop playing and the late try did not surprise me in the least.

Brock Lamb's take and pass for London's first try was exceptional skill.

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Post by George Hotel1895 Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:24 pm

Luke wrote:Rovers have confirmed that Josh Drinkwater, Chris Atkin and James Greenwood. Are to leave at the end of the season. Disappointed with the Atkin one (who's going to Salford), otherwise not really surprised with these 3. It will be an interesting pre season.
It might be an interesting week

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Post by Luke Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:23 pm

To be honest beast.
I don't understand why you change a winning side. We'd played well in France and won so surely stick with that side. But yeah the first 20 minutes put us behind the 8 ball. And the last 10 when we were leading, the game management was non existent. And unfortunately like you, watching on TV it was more a case of praying that time run out then anything to see Rovers home. So no suprise when they scored.
Agree about the Lamb skill, that was a truly wonderful piece of skill.
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Post by George Hotel1895 Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:13 pm

Luke wrote:To be honest beast.
I don't understand why you change a winning side. We'd played well in France and won so surely stick with that side. But yeah the first 20 minutes put us behind the 8 ball. And the last 10 when we were leading, the game management was non existent. And unfortunately like you, watching on TV it was more a case of praying that time run out then anything to see Rovers home. So no suprise when they scored.
Agree about the Lamb skill, that was a truly wonderful piece of skill.
Horses for courses perhaps?

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Post by Luke Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:25 pm

Well we stayed up. As Wakefield beat London to send them down.
Now expecting a big turn over of players for next year.
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Post by The Beast Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:12 am

A big relief for you and the club. I am no expert but how to play when ahead in a game would be in my pre-season drills. As previously mentioned IMHO this has been a big factor in KR being involved in last nights' drama, thankfully thanks to Wakey not paying the major price.

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Post by Luke Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:21 pm

Well apparently upto 12 players left or leaving. Other than the 4 above (Greenwood has also gone to Salford), as and the players who retired. Danny Addy has left (rumoured Leigh), Ryan Shaw Yorkshire Carnegie.

And now it looks like Joel Tompkins is leaving.

Will do more detailed with time.
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Post by Luke Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:31 pm

Shaun Kenny-Mcdowell signed.

Not a signing that massively inspires me, a good signing but that's it.
And backs isn't a massive issue in the team, given that still at the club (as far as I know), are Quinlan,Dagger,Hall, Crooks,Keinhorst, Linnett (though more if a forward I know). And if you add in Minkin and Ryan seems alot of back's.
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Post by George Hotel1895 Sat Sep 21, 2019 11:03 am

Luke wrote:Well apparently upto 12 players left or leaving. Other than the 4 above (Greenwood has also gone to Salford), as and the players who retired. Danny Addy has left (rumoured Leigh), Ryan Shaw Yorkshire Carnegie.

And now it looks like Joel Tompkins is leaving.

Will do more detailed with time.
I just hope the Robins don't go down the road of signing has been's and never was players from the NRL

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Post by Luke Sat Sep 21, 2019 5:16 pm

George Hotel1895 wrote:
Luke wrote:Well apparently upto 12 players left or leaving. Other than the 4 above (Greenwood has also gone to Salford), as and the players who retired. Danny Addy has left (rumoured Leigh), Ryan Shaw Yorkshire Carnegie.

And now it looks like Joel Tompkins is leaving.

Will do more detailed with time.
I just hope the Robins don't go down the road of signing has been's and never was players from the NRL
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If who we've signed is right, were not. Abdull, Minkin,Ryan, Rawsthorne all young British takent
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Post by George Hotel1895 Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:09 pm

Luke wrote:
George Hotel1895 wrote:
Luke wrote:Well apparently upto 12 players left or leaving. Other than the 4 above (Greenwood has also gone to Salford), as and the players who retired. Danny Addy has left (rumoured Leigh), Ryan Shaw Yorkshire Carnegie.

And now it looks like Joel Tompkins is leaving.

Will do more detailed with time.
I just hope the Robins don't go down the road of signing has been's and never was players from the NRL
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If who we've signed is right, were not. Abdull, Minkin,Ryan, Rawsthorne all young British takent
Good stuff, I hope they continue to sign only British players

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Post by George Hotel1895 Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:09 pm

Luke wrote:
George Hotel1895 wrote:
Luke wrote:Well apparently upto 12 players left or leaving. Other than the 4 above (Greenwood has also gone to Salford), as and the players who retired. Danny Addy has left (rumoured Leigh), Ryan Shaw Yorkshire Carnegie.

And now it looks like Joel Tompkins is leaving.

Will do more detailed with time.
I just hope the Robins don't go down the road of signing has been's and never was players from the NRL
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If who we've signed is right, were not. Abdull, Minkin,Ryan, Rawsthorne all young British takent
Good stuff, I hope they continue to sign only British players

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Post by The Beast Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:14 pm

On the face of it Shaun Kenny-Dowell is exactly what SL does not need, he might not be box office but I suspect he'll arrive with a point to prove.

I see Abdul is confirmed, surprised about Tompkins.

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Post by Luke Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:30 pm

Tompkins supposed to be compassionate, but lots think just doesn't fit into a Tony Smith side.
Apparently we are strongly linked with Ritchie Myler not really sure about that, but I do think him and Abdull could form a decent partnership.
Just don't quite to understand our obsession with backs🤔
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Post by The Beast Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:09 pm

The Myler rumour seems to stem from the Gale/Richardson moves. I have always liked Myler particularly his individual skills and maybe a bit harsh given how that team played for most of the season but for me at Leeds he seems to have lost an ability to control the game and guide the team around the pitch.

I do agree that is back line heavy. I have seen Harvey Livett being mentioned which would be a good replacement for Tompkins.

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Post by Luke Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:51 pm

Latest round up if Rovers signings.

Dean Hadley and Jez Litten both begin there 3 year deals after signing from Hull FC. Ethan Ryan (Bradford) also starts a 2 year deal. We have signed Matty Gee from London. And have agreed a season long loan of Harvey Livett from Warrington.
Though I expect more coming and goings, looks like we're running with a big young squad next year.
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Post by The Beast Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:20 pm

Very surprised that Craig Hall is going out on loan for 12 months (Fev). Minikin confirmed but looking in from the outside a strange decision.

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Post by Luke Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:51 am

To be honest,I'm surprised that it is just a loan. He's not going to get game time with Rovers so makes sense. Useless defensively, but amazing with the ball. We should never have broken up his partnership with Crooks.

I just don't rate Minkin, never seen him have a game where I thought I wish he was at Rover's. And I'd personally rather have kept Hall.
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Post by The Beast Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:26 pm

Nick Rawsthorne confirmed from Toronto on a two year contract. Perhaps I am being unkind but personally whilst taking in your comments on his defence I don't see this is a big step up from Craig Hall.

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Post by Luke Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:06 am

No neither do I, only think the thing for him is he's young. But given the latest three names that gave been told to find another club, that makes no sense.
The 3 are Keinhorst (surprised by this, and much rather him and crooks were centers than Minkin). Walis who's a young back I've not seen. And Lakes (again surprised, needed improvement but he's looked good, and Rovers used him wrong as he's a centre not winger).
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Post by George Hotel1895 Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:36 pm

From the outside looking in i don't see any of the Rovers signings so far as inspiring, but there not my club

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Post by Luke Fri Oct 18, 2019 4:43 pm

George Hotel1895 wrote:From the outside looking in i don't see any of the Rovers signings so far as inspiring, but there not my club

Personally neither do I. Ethan Ryan to see how he goes in SL. Parcell & Litten who I think will be a good tandem at hooker. Hadley who's just a workhorse and a good addition.
Otherwise, yeah not great so far
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Post by George Hotel1895 Sat Oct 19, 2019 2:20 am

Luke wrote:
George Hotel1895 wrote:From the outside looking in i don't see any of the Rovers signings so far as inspiring, but there not my club

Personally neither do I. Ethan Ryan to see how he goes in SL. Parcell & Litten who I think will be a good tandem at hooker. Hadley who's just a workhorse and a good addition.
Otherwise, yeah not great so far
Perhaps Tony Smith is just waiting for that player who has that X factor that gets crowds off their seats

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