Wolfhounds v Saxons

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue 22 Jan 2013, 11:25 am

First topic message reminder :

Sportsground in Galway Friday night.

Anyone else going?

Went to the last one 2 years ago in Ravenhill and had great crack. Fock all people there though. Probably the same this time or worse.

Cheap night out though. Hour and a half drive from Dublin. Cheap B&B.

by bluestonevedder Thu 24 Jan 2013, 3:26 pm

Have to admit, I'm looking forward to seeing Cave play. Whenever I watch Ulster, he always seems to put in a good shift, and from what I remember, is quite a ferocious tackler- which is always a good watch!

by **LondonTiger** Thu 24 Jan 2013, 3:28 pm

As to the quality of players, well I guess we will see on Friday night. (though with the weather forecast of wet and windy perhaps we won't). I suspect that as is usual, the Saxons are not as good as the followers of AP rugby think, but then the Wolfhounds too are not as good as the Irish fans think.

by Mickado Thu 24 Jan 2013, 3:30 pm

beshocked wrote:If he's no 1 why didn't he face Fraser in either Munster match?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20730461

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20651884

Cave is like BOD but not in the squad?

If these guys are so good in your eyes why are none in the Irish squad?

With Kruis I am going more with his MOM at 6 vs Munster. Maybe blinkered and over optimistic but I think he can match his opposite number.

That's not what was said, Cave is the most like for like replacement for BOD that we have in Ireland at the moment, he's not in the squad because his replacement is a different type of player.

by formerly known as Sam Thu 24 Jan 2013, 4:11 pm

Actually it's Crane who worries me the most. If B.Vunipola was at 8 I would be much more at ease.

I wouldn't be worried Beshocked big Jordan is returning to form slowly but surely and is a good captain. I'm surprised he's come back into the England fold so quickly whilst team mate Waldrom is overlooked.

England have good kicking options at 9, 10 and 15 as well as a defensively strong midfield. Clearly they are expecting bad conditions on Galway. A real test for Wade, if he shines in a wet and windy Galway I think he'll make his debut in the 6N.

by Geordie Thu 24 Jan 2013, 4:13 pm

Then a wet and windy Kingston Park next Friday v the Scots!!

by **LondonTiger** Thu 24 Jan 2013, 4:15 pm

Sam,

Waldrom is in the main training squad, so is not available for this game. Billy V was also training with them, except he is now injured.

by formerly known as Sam Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:35 pm

Ah right, though TTE had been dropped. Looks like Noone will get a game for Tigers on the weekend then.

by yappysnap Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:45 pm

Just realised that's both our hookers gone as well. We'll be playing Ward and...

by formerly known as Sam Thu 24 Jan 2013, 5:59 pm

Tell me about it Yappy, Tigers are down both 8s and three locks (one of which would have offered cover at 8). Not to mention both 10s as well.

Wasps again get to play against a weakened Tigers. Our team will be a bit stronger than last time at least.

Ayerza, Hawkins, Castro
Deacon, Andrew
Croft, Noone, Salvi
Harrison, Bowden
Allen, Smith
Morris, Tait, Thompstone

Mulipola, Chuter, Balmain, Thorpe, A N Other forward, Young, Cornwall, Goneva.

We are really stuck for locks with Wells and Price on England under 20s duty, Cain picking up an injury playing for Notts (not sure how serious that is), Slater, Kitchener and Parling with the Saxons and England first team. Mafi's muscle strain hasn't come at a good time.

by yappysnap Thu 24 Jan 2013, 6:07 pm

Good to see Croft back there though and alongside Salvi they should work well against Wasps who'll be without their key 6 and 8.

Quins are only missing Marler, Gray, Buchanan, Robson, Robshaw, Care, JTH, Lowe and Brown so not too bad to be honest we have cover for all of them. Lambert, Ward, ?, Mathews, Wallace, Dickson, Casson, Hopper and OLH.

We have a couple of injured players too (Brooker, Skinner and Chisholm) but touch wood we're quite lucky on this front.

If they U20's can't be selected then this'll probably be our team:

Marfo, Ward, Collier
Twomey, Matthews
Trayfoot, Wallace (C), Clifford

Dickson, Botica
Smith, Casson, Hopper, Stegmann, OLH

Allen,Mayhew,Lambert,Guest,Chisholm,Burns,Grimoldby,Walker

by yappysnap Thu 24 Jan 2013, 6:27 pm

Although thinking about it Hopper may also be rested.

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 24 Jan 2013, 7:43 pm

Leinster are missing (due to Irish call ups)

Healy-Cronin-Ross
Toner-McLaughlin
Ruddock-Heaslip-O'Brien
Reddan-Sexton
Darcy-O'Driscoll
Fitzgerald-Kearney-McFadden

HK-LH-Bent-Lock-BR-Boss-Madigan-OB

by **Notch** Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:25 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Leinster are missing (due to Irish call ups)

Healy-Cronin-Ross
Toner-McLaughlin
Ruddock-Heaslip-O'Brien
Reddan-Sexton
Darcy-O'Driscoll
Fitzgerald-Kearney-McFadden

HK-LH-Bent-Lock-BR-Boss-Madigan-OB

You don't have a game this weekend. Some of those guys will definitely be released the first weekend of the Six Nations.

by LeinsterFan4life Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:26 pm

Hope we get Ruddock, Boss and Madigan back.

by yappysnap Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:40 pm

So what are the Irish Provinces going to be doing this weekend then? Do they not play in the B&I cup?

by HammerofThunor Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:48 pm

A teams. They don't have the LV cup so have more room in the season for off weekends

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:52 pm

Is there not a game against Treviso????

by thebandwagonsociety Thu 24 Jan 2013, 8:58 pm

Notch wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Leinster are missing (due to Irish call ups)

Healy-Cronin-Ross
Toner-McLaughlin
Ruddock-Heaslip-O'Brien
Reddan-Sexton
Darcy-O'Driscoll
Fitzgerald-Kearney-McFadden

HK-LH-Bent-Lock-BR-Boss-Madigan-OB

You don't have a game this weekend. Some of those guys will definitely be released the first weekend of the Six Nations.

It's still a lot of players being taken from an Amlin team. Surely form would dictate that the majority of the names above won't be starting 6N opening match?

by neilthom7 Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:05 pm

It's not just who starts it's those on the bench and Deccie holds on to some players for inexplicable reasons even when they aren't playing, but some will go back to Leinster, Munster, Ulster and Connacht before next weekends games.

by thebandwagonsociety Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:20 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Is there not a game against Treviso????

I think the next game is away to Cardiff on the 8th feb?

by thebandwagonsociety Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:27 pm

neilthom7 wrote:It's not just who starts it's those on the bench and Deccie holds on to some players for inexplicable reasons even when they aren't playing, but some will go back to Leinster, Munster, Ulster and Connacht before next weekends games.

I agree that he holds on to players a little too long. If you factor out injuries, he tends to be very slow and methodical on bringing through players for the 1st XV.
You get added in to the end of the 'Carton House' style bonding sessions.
Then you get to be part of the wolfhound squad.
Then you get to start for the hounds.
If you do well then you start getting into the main squad.
Up till then it all seems great............ if you were part of a club/province where this would happen in half a season. The problem is that this process takes 2 6Ns, 2 AIs and possibly a churchill cup trip to happen.

Then you hit the brick wall which is the inability to cut poor performers.....

by DaveM Thu 24 Jan 2013, 9:38 pm

Rinsure wrote:Side announced!

15 Elliot Daly (London Wasps)
14 Christian Wade (London Wasps)
13 Joel Tomkins (Saracens)
12 Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins)
11 Tom Biggs (Bath Rugby)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens)
1 Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby)
2 Joe Gray (Harlequins)
3 Paul Doran-Jones (Northampton Saints)
4 Graham Kitchener (Leicester Tigers)
5 George Robson (Harlequins)
6 George Kruis (Saracens)
7 Will Fraser (Saracens)
8 Jordan Crane (Leicester Tigers, captain)

Replacements:
16 Rob Buchanan (Harlequins)
17 Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors)
18 Shaun Knight (Gloucester Rugby)
19 Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers)
20 Jamie Gibson (London Irish)
21 Joe Simpson (London Wasps)
22 George Lowe (Harlequins)
23 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby)

Tomkins at 13, and Kruis at 6 the big stories, I think. I thought Kruis was a 7?

Anyway, more on RFU here:

http://www.rfu.com/news/2013/january/news-articles/240113_saxons_squadire

Well, Daly at FB is interesting, lenty of people seem to think that's where he'll end up. Also the England coaches clearly see something in Tompkins. May isn't fit enough I presume. The most interesting selection is Eastmond covering FH. Balancing out the experimental backs is quite an experienced pack.

Poor weather and the Saxons have struggled away from home recently. I think the coaches will be happy if the score is tight and they get some promising displays from the younger players.

by formerly known as Sam Thu 24 Jan 2013, 10:37 pm

Although thinking about it Hopper may also be rested.

I think Tigers will rest players against the Scarlets as we tend not to give a frig about away games in the LV but fortress Welford needs it's reputation maintaining and the fans get a bit irked if they turn up and we lose at home. Though as I've said Deacon might have to suck it up and play both unless Cain recovers or England under 20s release one of the two.

by nathan Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:09 pm

Forgot to mention, people might have some look watching the game here > http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/

by bluestonevedder Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:12 pm

Nice one, cheers nathan

Starting to get excited about this.

by **rodders** Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:30 pm

Doesn't seem to be available on RTE Player..... furious

by LeinsterFan4life Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:35 pm

Is kick off not at half 7???

by **rodders** Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:39 pm

7.35? ..... right gotta go buy a new HD freeview box to get RTE2 .... later..... Run

by GunsGerms Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:45 pm

Ireland to win by 13

by UlstermaninGlasgow Fri 25 Jan 2013, 5:49 pm

Just beware, RTÉ is sometimes region locked for sports, so you might not be able to watch it in the UK! Although RTÉ 1 is working for me at the moment! Fingers crossed!

by nathan Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:01 pm

rodders wrote:Doesn't seem to be available on RTE Player.....

I can see it on the rte two schedule at 7:30.

by nathan Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:03 pm

Hmmm, turns out I can get the channel on sky, woohoo

by neilthom7 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:06 pm

Yes I have it on Virgin media so I am sorted, goodluck finding it Rodders.

by majesticimperialman Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:38 pm

neilthom7 wrote:Yes I have it on Virgin media so I am sorted, goodluck finding it Rodders.

What channel?

by neilthom7 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:54 pm

Channel 876

by EnglishReign Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:57 pm

I get bbc2 England (helpful) on 876. Why is it so difficult? RTE player only works for Irish residents for sport, must be a stream somewhere.

by majesticimperialman Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:14 pm

dont seem to have 876. furious

Thing is i am suppose to have (ALL) the channels. steam

by UlstermaninGlasgow Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:34 pm

Link anyone? RTE player is being a pain in the rear...

by valjester Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:36 pm

Anyone got a link to the match? None of my usual ones are working.

by Morgannwg Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:39 pm

Say that you had the BBC iPlayer app on your Xbox. Would the channel be on there?

by valjester Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:42 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:I have to say I love these games, they are always so informative. Also looking forward to seeing a depleted and hopefully young Irish team head to North America in the summer.

There is a fair bit of talent I want to see over the next few months and hopefully the Wolfie game this week will see a lot of them on the pitch
Pete, Ireland are visiting North America this summer? You have a link or know the schedule? If I am still in the States st thst time, I would love to take my lads. Thanks.

They are playing the USA on the 8th of June in Houston, Texas. Canada on the 15th in a venue yet to be announced, and a second test against Canada in Vancouver on the 22nd.

I might try and head up to Vancouver for the weekend, should be easy enough to get tickets.

by **rodders** Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:43 pm

Shoite! Can't get RTE player to work! anyone have a link!

by neilthom7 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:46 pm

Weird my virgin media has RTE 2 on 876 how odd, try thefirstrow.eu

by **rodders** Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:47 pm

Score update Neil!

by neilthom7 Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:48 pm

Ireland lead 7-0 McGlauchlin with the try paddy jackson converts

by Morgannwg Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:50 pm

Can someone also pass me the link if they have it. Thanks.

by EnglishReign Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:50 pm

Already? Jesus.

by **rodders** Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:50 pm

Flip that was quick cheers Neil! Stream not working .....

by UlstermaninGlasgow Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:52 pm

Neither stream I've tried has worked...

RTE player seems to be refusing to accept that RTE TWO exists tonight!

by Golden Fri 25 Jan 2013, 7:52 pm

Ireland have a scrum on the English 5 metre line and get shoved off the ball. Bent in trouble

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