Wolfhounds v Saxons

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue 22 Jan 2013 - 11:25

First topic message reminder :

Sportsground in Galway Friday night.

Anyone else going?

Went to the last one 2 years ago in Ravenhill and had great crack. Fock all people there though. Probably the same this time or worse.

Cheap night out though. Hour and a half drive from Dublin. Cheap B&B.

by MrsP Fri 25 Jan 2013 - 23:25

Must be me eyes then lads!

Mind you, it would have been more enjoyable to spend those 40mins having someone stick needles in my eyes than try to figure out what was the point of that second half.

by Golden Fri 25 Jan 2013 - 23:51

Are Fitzpatricks continual fitness problems down to unlucky injuries or is it a case of him not putting in the work?

by DaveM Fri 25 Jan 2013 - 23:54

Great result for a thrown-together Saxons side.

by neilthom7 Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 0:20

Fitzpatrick is having a nightmare with Injuries he just seems to keep getting them every time he is back, I suspect he could have played a lot longer than he did today though

by Cumbrian Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 0:44

UlstermaninGlasgow wrote:15 Elliot Daly (London Wasps) - Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
14 Christian Wade (London Wasps) - Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster/49)
13 Joel Tomkins (Saracens) - Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster/3)
12 Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins) - Dave McSharry (UCD/Connacht/)
11 Tom Biggs (Bath Rugby) - Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/Leinster/23)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers) - Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens) - Paul Marshall (Ballymena/Ulster/)

1 Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby) - David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster/2)
2 Joe Gray (Harlequins) - Mike Sherry (Garryowen/Munster)
3 Paul Doran-Jones (Saints) - Michael Bent (Dublin University/Leinster/2)
4 Graham Kitchener (Leicester Tigers) - Lewis Stevenson (Malone/Ulster)
5 George Robson (Harlequins) - Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster/3)
6 George Kruis (Saracens) - Kevin McLaughlin (St.Mary's College/Leinster/5)
7 Will Fraser (Saracens) - Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster)
8 Jordan Crane (Tigers, captain) - James Coughlin (Munster) Captain

Replacements:
16 Rob Buchanan (Harlequins) - Damien Varley (Garryowen/Munster/2)
17 Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors) - Tom Court (Malone/Ulster/29)
18 Shaun Knight (Gloucester Rugby) - Declan Fitzpatrick (Dungannon /Ulster/2)
19 Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers) - Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster/2)
20 Jamie Gibson (London Irish) - Rhys Ruddock (St. Mary's College/Leinster/1)
21 Joe Simpson (London Wasps) - Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster/15)
22 George Lowe (Harlequins) - Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster)
23 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby) - Ian Keatley (Young Munster/Munster/2)

Bolded are my picks for the winners in each match-up.

Irish backs much more experienced and tight enough up front but the Wolfhounds bench the better of the two.

Bump.

by The Great Aukster Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 7:46

Cumbrian wrote:
UlstermaninGlasgow wrote:15 Elliot Daly (London Wasps) - Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/Connacht)
14 Christian Wade (London Wasps) - Andrew Trimble (Ballymena/Ulster/49)
13 Joel Tomkins (Saracens) - Darren Cave (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster/3)
12 Jordan Turner-Hall (Harlequins) - Dave McSharry (UCD/Connacht/)
11 Tom Biggs (Bath Rugby) - Luke Fitzgerald (Blackrock College/Leinster/23)
10 George Ford (Leicester Tigers) - Paddy Jackson (Dungannon/Ulster)
9 Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens) - Paul Marshall (Ballymena/Ulster/)

1 Nick Wood (Gloucester Rugby) - David Kilcoyne (UL Bohemians/Munster/2)
2 Joe Gray (Harlequins) - Mike Sherry (Garryowen/Munster)
3 Paul Doran-Jones (Saints) - Michael Bent (Dublin University/Leinster/2)
4 Graham Kitchener (Leicester Tigers) - Lewis Stevenson (Malone/Ulster)
5 George Robson (Harlequins) - Devin Toner (Lansdowne/Leinster/3)
6 George Kruis (Saracens) - Kevin McLaughlin (St.Mary's College/Leinster/5)
7 Will Fraser (Saracens) - Tommy O'Donnell (UL Bohemians/Munster)
8 Jordan Crane (Tigers, captain) - James Coughlin (Munster) Captain

Replacements:
16 Rob Buchanan (Harlequins) - Damien Varley (Garryowen/Munster/2)
17 Matt Mullan (Worcester Warriors) - Tom Court (Malone/Ulster/29)
18 Shaun Knight (Gloucester Rugby) - Declan Fitzpatrick (Dungannon /Ulster/2)
19 Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers) - Iain Henderson (Ballynahinch/Ulster/2)
20 Jamie Gibson (London Irish) - Rhys Ruddock (St. Mary's College/Leinster/1)
21 Joe Simpson (London Wasps) - Isaac Boss (Terenure College/Leinster/15)
22 George Lowe (Harlequins) - Ian Madigan (Blackrock College/Leinster)
23 Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby) - Ian Keatley (Young Munster/Munster/2)

Bolded are my picks for the winners in each match-up.

Irish backs much more experienced and tight enough up front but the Wolfhounds bench the better of the two.

Bump.

Actually all the ties were about right, as were the backs. The forwards were the direct opposite!

by DaveM Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 10:24

Reading the match reports it sounds like the English backs did ok. The strength in depth in English rugby is good and getting better.

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 12:46

I had such a great feeling of positivity when McLaughlin got over in the first ten minutes....disappointing.....

by neilthom7 Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 12:58

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:I had such a great feeling of positivity when McLaughlin got over in the first ten minutes....disappointing.....

Me too it faded fast when the first scrum happened

by yappysnap Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 13:31

DaveM wrote:Reading the match reports it sounds like the English backs did ok. The strength in depth in English rugby is good and getting better.

Which is why it's a shame that there's only two games for them to play in the 6N's A tournament. Don't all the other Unions have A teams save Wales as well? It would surely be far more beneficial for the guys to play 3 or 4 matches then just the two.

Likewise the summer tour yes it's great that a select dozen or so get to go with the EPS and play midweek games (it is a 42 man squad that's taken right?) but still that leaves a whole host kicking their heels who could be better off playing a bit in the old Churchill cup or something similar.

by doctor_grey Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 14:03

Yappy,
I agree its a shame each of the 6 Nations do not have an 'A' side. That would really help the growth and improvement of Rugby in the NH. The 'A' side matches could be played the day before the main teams in smaller stadia, or even the first match of a 6 Nations double-header. Would be a real investment in the future across the board. And, handled right, might break even financially, meaning no undue monetary burden (and no excuse not to do it).

by lostinwales Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 14:26

I thought the churchill cup was a great idea and its a real shame nothing has come to fill its place

by doctor_grey Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 14:33

lostinwales,
Churchill Cup was a great concept. In the last finals, they held it here in northern New jersey and the kids in my club were the ball runners and had a fantastic experience. My sons got a signed jersey from the French 'A' team and a couple of Rugby balls signed by the Saxons.

But from a development standpoint, it was great for the US and Canadian teams. I think it helped their squads, and gave quaity matc time for the participating 'A' sides.

by HammerofThunor Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 18:27

Well from the US and Canada's point of view they've replaced it with the PNC. From the European nations point of view they've gone for bigger tours (three games and mid-week). Don't think there's been any improvement for the odd invited team like Russia and Georgia but Georgia in particular didn't/couldn't send their best team.

by Feckless Rogue Sat 26 Jan 2013 - 22:07

It's very hard to play rugby in those conditions and even harder to watch. This is the main reason why I believe the 6 Nations should be played at the end of the NH season in early summer.

by The Great Aukster Sun 27 Jan 2013 - 20:28

Feckless Rogue wrote:It's very hard to play rugby in those conditions and even harder to watch. This is the main reason why I believe the 6 Nations should be played at the end of the NH season in early summer.

There was only a bit of wind and I'm told that can happen in Galway at any time of year!

by Jenifer McLadyboy Sun 27 Jan 2013 - 20:42

The Great Aukster wrote:
Feckless Rogue wrote:It's very hard to play rugby in those conditions and even harder to watch. This is the main reason why I believe the 6 Nations should be played at the end of the NH season in early summer.

There was only a bit of wind and I'm told that can happen in Galway at any time of year!

Galway was actually lovely weather. Nearly got blown off the road on the way across. Torrential rain made overtaking trucks a major scare. But as soon as we got to Galway it cleared up. There were even people sitting outside the pub at midnight. Some of them without coats....Mad Ba$tards.

by TrailApe Mon 28 Jan 2013 - 9:11

Some of them without coats....Mad Ba$tards..

Probably the Tyneside Irish Wink

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