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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.



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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:51 pm

I think they have a point with Henry tbh.

I've not seen Heaslip turn it on for a long long time.

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Post by Driver Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:56 pm

Ireland miss Ferris.

6.Ferris
7.O'Mahoney
8.SOB

Tasty back row.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:58 pm

O'Mahoney not a 7, and also not produced a top performance in an Ireland jersey yet.
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Post by Driver Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:00 pm

I think Ireland only really have one out and out 7 tbf and that's Shane Jennings.
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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 6:18 am

Also pooly you will find that people on these forums get heated about the last game so people are either loved or discarded on that basis.

If you went via what sports writers said then you would get a more accurate picture. If he has been terrible why would they make him captain of Ireland permanently just before 6 nations. ? Surely his form must have been good enough to warrant it?

They had a few options to be fair

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 13 Feb 2013, 7:22 am

Many are baffled to why he got it.

Borthwick comes to mind....

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 8:40 am

From a welsh newspaper

And 52-times Ireland capped star Heaslip fits the bill at No.8 because his main rival, Wales youngster Toby Faletau, has gone off the boil following a sensational first season in international rugby.

Heaslip was the Lions Test No. 8 in South Africa, and is bang in form.

He has been consistently excellent for Heineken Cup holders Leinster and was lauded for his leadership skills with Ireland.



Read more: Wales Online http://www.walesonline.co.uk/rugbynation/rugby-news/2012/12/14/ireland-s-jamie-heaslip-emerges-as-lions-captaincy-favourite-91466-32423641/#ixzz2KlbRHKHm

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Post by stnick88 Wed 13 Feb 2013, 9:51 am

I think the 8 jersey is wide open.

Beattie is on good form. Heaslip, Morgan and Faletau around a similar level for me.

Can't see Jenkins going, has not been playing well and will likely be involved in playoff final. For that reason think he will not take Steffon Armitage and we have good sevens in Robshaw, Tipuric, O'Brien.

Steve I don't know much about Mulchrone or the other fella but I have heard we are raiding the championship a bit for next season.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:02 am

Jenkins was much better against France, good in the loose. Just needs games.

Back row so tough to call. Probs 6. SOB 7. Robshaw 8. Beattie right now but will most certainly change.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:15 am

Kahui off to Japan.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:17 am

I like Jenkins, he has the experience of the Lions which we will likely lack in the front row with only Jones having any.

I would take him as he is class. Form is only temporary, many people forget that when players are playing well!

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Post by Driver Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:19 am

LukeLovesLuka wrote:Kahui off to Japan.

Really? Both Berrick and Kahui off to the J-League? Bad week for me and Matt lol.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:20 am

No one will be crying any tears for you with the squads you've got!

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Post by Driver Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:22 am

Lol , anyone who wants to can though , don't be put off with the sympathy lol.
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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:34 am

Barnes will not go but Kahui I could definitely see going. Had lots of
Injuries and a big pay day makes sense

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:36 am

For me SOB will not be in reckoning for 6 and will be considered as a 7 where he plays most rugby. Ferris back now I believe ?

If both fit between wood and him for 6. Robshaw 7 on current form although to counter pocock we may look for a genuine 7. That may decide the captaincy

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:40 am

Looks like burger will play this weekend. Be great to see

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 13 Feb 2013, 11:56 am

SOB and Robshaw could be an awesome left/right combo.

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 11:59 am

Think Backrow is somewhere we can really go after wallabies. Pocock aside they are not the best and Palu whilst a unit is often injured and up and down form wise

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 13 Feb 2013, 1:49 pm

Disagree Matt. Hooper and Pocock on the flanks would be lethal. rate Hooper so highly will become the world's best 7 sharpish in my view. Got a bit of everything!

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Post by Driver Wed 13 Feb 2013, 1:52 pm

I'd say Hooper is Aus's Robshaw. Does a bit of everything and links play up a bit more than Pocock. Australia really lack a quality 8.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:05 pm

If we tell the Ozzies we reckon our back row is weak they would laugh in our faces. Palu good but seems to struggle with injures and Higginbottom struggles at the top level

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:15 pm

Rate hooper massively can't see them playing him 6 though

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Post by DHLS07 Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:17 pm

My couple of bob on the Heaslip debate is that none of the available 8's for the Lions have done enough to consider themselves the front runner for the test shirt. All have deficiencies which have been evident over the last 12 months. They all have a lot to play for in the remaining three rounds of the 6 nations.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:18 pm

I wouldn't be surprised at all. Deans would be a fool to not at least try it in my eyes.

Hooper embarrassed the English back row at Twickenham in November, and the English back row have shown how that isn't that easy to do in the last 3 tests.

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:24 pm

Was that a Waldron tj and Robshaw Backrow Steve ?

I really rate hooper and think he was one of the best signings on here ever. Personally I think he could dislodge pocock but not sure if they will go both in same side.

Personally i think it's worth a go as Dennis is 3rd rate and the cupboard is relatively bare.

Horwill staying fit is a big issue for the aussies. He gives them a lot.

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Post by Driver Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:44 pm

Is it getting to the point where we have a out and out better pack than most sides bar NZ and SA?
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:45 pm

not yet. Needs to be proven over more than 3 games.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:49 pm

I wouldnt say the English pack was much better then Irelands at the weekend. Bad handling errors and ROG at 10 was the big difference between the two sides.

English front 5 probably edges as best in the 6 nations but the backrow would only be on a par with France, Ireland and when on form Wales

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 2:51 pm

Exactly we can't jump on bandwagon. Of people like croft etc get fit we have depth.

Lack of a th backup is startling. Wilson is very poor as back up. Need a back up 8 and 7 also

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 13 Feb 2013, 3:27 pm

Think Vunipola will come through as the backup 8, as much as it pains me to say it I think he will improve a lot at Sarries and playing higher level rugby and competing for trophies.

Couple of players starting to emerge in the no7 shirt, Kvesvic and Fraser have looked good - think Sam Jones could have the makings of a very good backrower too and he'll get a lot of game time at Wasps next season.

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Post by captainunited Wed 13 Feb 2013, 3:54 pm

http://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/172452

if anyone interested newcastle are vacant and you can also get a 60M boost Whistle

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 13 Feb 2013, 6:01 pm

I just really think Heaslip is much cop Matt, he's had one or so great seasons but never really turned it on since Lions tour.

I think his form has been poor for over a year, the 6N has just backed that up for me.

I'll leave it with him though.

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Post by Guest Wed 13 Feb 2013, 10:09 pm

Healy 3 week ban about right for me. Not often you say that

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Post by stnick88 Thu 14 Feb 2013, 10:34 am

anyone got any backrowers, preferably number 8 or blindsides for sale??


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Post by stnick88 Thu 14 Feb 2013, 10:35 am

likewise anyone got any players for loan till end of season?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 14 Feb 2013, 10:36 am

Good to have you back mate.
Could have Roger Wilson available.

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Post by Fluxy Thu 14 Feb 2013, 10:36 am

I have the same query!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 14 Feb 2013, 10:39 am

Adam Thomson is available for a deal thumbsup

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Post by stnick88 Thu 14 Feb 2013, 10:51 am

lads let me know who you have available am up for some dealing

decent players i will let go are morne steyn, luke charteris, leo cullen, shane jennings to name a few.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Feb 2013, 11:58 am

All the best Nick, hopefully you'll have more luck than I did!!
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Post by Driver Thu 14 Feb 2013, 12:37 pm

Morgan ruled out of France clash.

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 14 Feb 2013, 2:08 pm

Good news for me on here then!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 14 Feb 2013, 2:47 pm

Some interesting selections and reasons in James Hudson's 'dream team' in the rugby paper...

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/features/dream-team/7336/dream-team-james-hudson-newcastle-and-former-bath-london-irish-and-england-saxons-lock/
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 14 Feb 2013, 3:06 pm

From that...

5. Patricio Albacete – I could have picked one of a bunch of top locks that I’ve played with but the experience of playing against this guy in Toulouse will always stay with me. He can run the lineout and does so much work around the park.

Does that mean I have had a lineout lock all along?

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Post by Driver Thu 14 Feb 2013, 3:07 pm

Jimmy Goppereth and Ally Hogg? Though he would of played with better players than that over the years lol.


He's Gloucester bound anyway is Mr.Hudson.
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Post by Guest Thu 14 Feb 2013, 3:44 pm

Driver wrote:Jimmy Goppereth and Ally Hogg? Though he would of played with better players than that over the years lol.


He's Gloucester bound anyway is Mr.Hudson.

I would have hoped for better than that for Gloucester

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Post by Driver Thu 14 Feb 2013, 3:45 pm

What happened to Myall and Grey coming to yous'
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Post by stnick88 Thu 14 Feb 2013, 4:05 pm

I imagine the Gray deal would depend on whether Sale stay up, and I reckon they will. Welsh will struggle to win any more games this season looking at their fixtures, their home game v Sale this weekend is massive for them.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 14 Feb 2013, 4:19 pm

Would it be possible to get tactics in first thing in the morning please? Been dumped with a set of accounts that need to be done this evening and my first Valentines married will be a bloody massacre if I'm on here tonight! Teamsheet is in so you know the side if allowed Pete

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