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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:09 pm

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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.



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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 8:38 pm

1. Jaimie Cudmore
2. Mamuka Gorgodze
3. Andrew Hore (wouldn't see it coming)
4. Jim Hamilton
5. ??
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 07 Feb 2013, 8:49 pm

Bakkies Botha still has it!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 07 Feb 2013, 9:02 pm

5. Manu Tuilagi?

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 07 Feb 2013, 9:07 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:5. Manu Tuilagi?

Only if your name's Chris Ashton!!
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Post by Guest Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:45 pm

Morgan confirmed out prop

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Post by Guest Thu 07 Feb 2013, 11:48 pm

Just reading this " Goode best engand 15 of
Last 3 years"

Come off it.

Foden and brown easily. Goode was top vs Fiji and decent against nz but what else.

Never see foden brown or even Balshaw and abendanon get bumped by Hogg.

this week a huge test for Goode. Reckon Ireland will test him big style. Real acid test

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 08 Feb 2013, 8:36 am

Ah ballz, didn't see that till now matt. Cheers anyway.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 12:12 pm

just watching Ireland v England 2003.

'POC is the future the Irish beleive'

Probably got that one right

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 12:17 pm

http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/02/2992/quade-cooper-wins-first-professional-fight-with-first-round-knockout

With regards to that punchers in rugby discussion of yesterday

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 08 Feb 2013, 5:07 pm

If anyone fancies having a crack with Worcester then let me know. I'm pretty busy at the moment so trying to decide which league to continue with and to be honest, getting praised for deals, taking a long time to write tactics and yet still being the only team getting hammered in this league is really pi$$ing me off
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Feb 2013, 5:58 pm

Do you fancy a crack at Irish prop?
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Post by Driver Fri 08 Feb 2013, 6:04 pm

I was about to suggest the same thing Pete.

Prop's a cracking tactition and would really push Irish onto the top 4.


Will get my predictions up soon but will only be scores on the doors tonight , might get full description in tomorrow morning though. I'm off out tonight to sort somethings out at rugby. Had our first county juniors selected yesterday so i'm getting a lot of praise for that lol!
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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 7:04 pm

To be fair prop you are only a few points away in predos from my point of view. Done a cracking job and players like Lambie will get you out of the jam.

End of 6 n will see you come good. That Backrow is top and you have a built a pack and decent side

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 08 Feb 2013, 8:14 pm

P.m for ozzy. Ta all for commentz, I'll have a think over cider
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 8:32 pm

referee struggling in Sale v Exeter game. guess work.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 8:33 pm

Mumm should be in the sin bin. No bottle

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 8:49 pm

To stop all these people leaving why don't the top 4 kick in a marquee player

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:01 pm

In future transfer windows maybe open it up a week early for the bottom teams so that they can get the better players, or have first dibs before teams with more money can come in and make the gulf wider.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:05 pm

Pretty fast.....

http://www.rugbyrugby.com/news/features/rugby_rugby_features/7008773/fastest_man_in_rugby

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:13 pm

I agree that people shouldn't be giving up players, but there should be a clear advantage to lower sides in the Transfer windows. Whether that means top sides having 1 or 2 transfers and the bottom sides having upwards of 5. Can improve academy by doing that as many sides have had to sacrifice academy quality for short term fixes and gains.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:21 pm

Anyone up for a deal?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:38 pm

Jesus this is nerve wrecking.

GETTTT INNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:41 pm

TMO trial at televised matches could end up costing us dear this season. No extended TMO powers and that's a try for Exeter and Sale draw at best. We've dropped about 10 points this season as a result of TMO decisions that although correct, wouldn't have been given if the game wasn't televised.

Good win for Sale.
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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:54 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Pretty fast.....

http://www.rugbyrugby.com/news/features/rugby_rugby_features/7008773/fastest_man_in_rugby

Been doing rounds for a while. Watching his defence is more funny

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 9:59 pm

If we win at Welsh next week then they are right back in the quagmire. I still reckon they could go down.

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:09 pm

Sale and Irish proper clubs hate to see either go down. Worcester on other hand .....

That said don't mind worcester. Can irish afford going down chaps? Sale can but not sure re Irish. Nick could answer this him
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:12 pm

Can now that we have planning permission for Hazelwood, as we will be selling The Avenue to housing development. If we didn'tnhave planning permission, relegation could have killed us.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:19 pm

See SBW beat Botha in their fight today.

Seems like he's been gone ages but has actually played int rugby more recently than BdP by a week.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:31 pm

Contoversy in the fight though. Was scheduled for 12 rounds but cut to 10 during the fight and SBW was taking a battering towards the end. Which NRL club i he playing for now, is it the Roosters?
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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:36 pm

Botha must be nearly 50 he was garbage 15 years ago

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:43 pm

44 I think Mat, but seriously fat.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Feb 2013, 10:52 pm

I think he starts NRL in March???

I was just reading through predo's as mrs is watching some crap on tele.

Odd how SBW (who played int Aug 25 and in Japan for few months) gets slated yet BdP who's been injured and has played zero rugby since Aug 18th is fine.

Interesting read.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:05 pm

SBW has left the sport. That is the different to being injured

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:07 pm

To be fair when injured you are in the environment and also train with team just modified version.

Was talking to olly Morgan at game we lost to Irish and he is attending every nonsense do for nick woods testimonial year and also doing all charity stuff for club.
Know him to say hi through the years and said he must find it difficult not training and playing with the chaps. He said he is involved all the time in all gym and cv stuff to point he can but then sits out contact and more impactful things. Also said that he goes on away trips a games and other rugby related stuff.

Being in the environment helps. Sbw not a union player through and through and not in the day to day which makes a difference.
Juan smith for etc has been involved in coaching and strategy. Picking sbw is the same as me playing Greg Somerville or vickery straight after they retired. They would be decent but if you are not playing and have shown intention to not play union your rating is affected

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:08 pm

Steven_Sharks wrote:SBW has left the sport. That is the different to being injured

Steve says it more concise than my ramblings. 1-0 to
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:24 pm

In the context of this game he hasn't though?!?!

In real life he's played union back in November (3 month ago in Japan) and Int rugby Aug 25.

BdP has played ZERO rugby since Aug 18th.

Just funny how people rate things like that.

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:29 pm

Every player in Japan takes 3
Months to get near ready for super 15. It is dross

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:34 pm

Is playing in Japan worse than not playing?

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Feb 2013, 11:35 pm

Maybe yes as bad habits happen and comfort zone.


Also he has been training for a fight and not rugby. Can't turn on and off for me.

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Post by Fluxy Sat 09 Feb 2013, 12:21 am

Looking to beef up my backrow lads.

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Feb 2013, 1:56 pm

Glos looking good. May is absolute dynamite

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Feb 2013, 1:59 pm

I don't think May has been that good matt. He has scored to tries, the first of which excellent and the poor defence was caused by his ability with ball in hand. Second try a run in. He still looks miles away from international class for me with his all round game.

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Feb 2013, 2:16 pm

For me he Is so dangerous ball in hand and he defends well. Kicking needs a bit
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Feb 2013, 2:29 pm

His defence was dire for Saxons, I was really disappointed as I think he's an outstanding attacking talent.

Left wing is a bit of a concern really, no wingers are looking good enough really.

Biggs has actually looked the best of an average bunch but is he good enough for England?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 09 Feb 2013, 2:31 pm

Biggs probably not.

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Feb 2013, 2:33 pm

May generally strong defensively. Did not see Saxons game. Today he looked properly fit for first time this year

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Feb 2013, 2:39 pm

Not on that showing Matt, he slipped off loads of tackles.

Nobody was worse than Ford though, worst 10 performance I've seen at KP for a long time.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Feb 2013, 3:15 pm

Good half from Scotland, Harley looking good.

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Feb 2013, 3:42 pm

Matt Scott and Hogg having good games. I think Scott is a bolter for lions said it before and still think it. 12 is not a position of massive depth so it will be Roberts plus Scott/ Barritt or Darcy maybe

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Feb 2013, 4:05 pm

Scott playing quite well, not a fan mind.

Be desperate times if he makes Lions.

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