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Breaking News: Former London Irish boss stnick88 returns in charge of Worcester Warriors and Quins win the top of the table clash with Tigers to narrow the gap between the two teams to a single point.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.



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Post by stnick88 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 8:41 am

Does that mean Billy V is out of the Irish game Sunday Chris Smile

Although I was looking forward to him and Hala'ufia having a clash.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:25 am

I'd have been surprised if Billy V was involved even if fit

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:47 am

Apparently so Nick - I didnt even realise he was training with England.

Should be a good game, we are a bit short of no8s though without Vunipola and Haskell.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:51 am

Johnson will play 8 I would imagine.
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Post by dammit_chris Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:57 am

It is understood that Waldrom only retained his place in the matchday squad because Wasps No 8 Billy Vunipola was ruled out of the contest with an ankle injury on Tuesday.

Vunipola, who has been an impressive figure during England’s training sessions, was expected to join his brother Mako in the 23-man squad after delivering another top-notch display for Wasps in their Premiership victory over Gloucester last Saturday.

“Billy hurt his ankle this morning in training,” said England forwards coach Graham Rowntree. “He was certainly one player who could be in the mix for this weekend. His form over the last six weeks has been impressive but he hurt his ankle in training and probably won’t be available for Saturday.”


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Post by stnick88 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:59 am

Is Poff injured? As Sam Jones played 7 v Glos. No Haskell, Poff or Billy V would be great news and give us a chance of a result.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:00 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I'd have been surprised if Billy V was involved even if fit

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:06 am

Yeah Pete, backrow should be Sam Jones, Poff and AJ, if Poff is fit, if not it's Everard - AJ has been in top form these last few weeks, think last two games he's been given motm, so that gives us some go forward.

Should be a good game, looking forward to watching Yarde play, he seems to have come on a lot this season.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:10 am

Yarde v Wade will be a great battle.

AJ has looked quality, he's such a lump, probably a great golfer, huge a ss.

Our backrow should be Garvey, Sincair/Treviranus, Hala'ufia which is a big unit.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:15 am

Wade v Yarde definitely a great one to watch.

Sam Jones is showing signs of developing into a very good AP player, but we could come a bit unstuck in the backrow if Poff and BV aren't available, as like you say you've got a huge backrow there.

One area that Wasps have improved on this year is the scrum with Taulafo and Swainston coming through very well, so hopefully we can get the upper hand there as I assume Corbs is still out?

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Post by stnick88 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:18 am

Corbs is pretty much out for the season.

Lahiff could struggle against Swainston, I'd like to think Aulika can more than handle Taulafo though. Don't think there will be much give either way.

It's odd though, Lahiff got the better of Stevens the other week then got mullered by Wilson the week after. Seems to be a bit of a lottery on the day.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 20 Feb 2013, 11:47 am

Taulafo is a really good scrummager now - Woodman is doing a top job with him, he's been doing a number on a lot of packs.

Front row seems really odd now as like you say one week someone can do a complete number on his opposite number and then the next get done by someone you'd think was a lot worse!

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Post by DHLS07 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 11:56 am

stnick88 wrote:It's odd though, Lahiff got the better of Stevens the other week then got mullered by Wilson the week after. Seems to be a bit of a lottery on the day.

I haven't seen the match so can't say for sure, but didn't Saracens have Auterac playing at loosehead? If he was struggling against Aulika on that side then it would have certainly helped Lahiff in his battle against Stevens as it's never as simple as a one on one effort in the front row.

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Post by DHLS07 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 11:58 am

And I am still after signing a loosehead and an inside centre if anyone wants to do any deals.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 12:16 pm

Yeh Aulika battered Austerac, so fair point that probably helped Max.

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Post by Guest Wed 20 Feb 2013, 12:38 pm

To be fair when I have seen lahiff I have been unimpressed by lahiffs progression in scrummaging. Seems to have very little technique. Hell of a specimen

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 20 Feb 2013, 12:42 pm

Great calfs

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Post by stnick88 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 12:51 pm

Yeh his technique isnt the best but it has improved from last year.

his legs are ridiculous. however Yanuyanutawa's legs are even more impressive, you seen the videos of him on youtube squatting 260kg or something ridiculous. apparently holds some sort of record. unfortunately not a very good scrummager.

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Post by Driver Wed 20 Feb 2013, 1:53 pm

15. Rob Kearney
14. Craig Gilroy
13. Brian O’Driscoll
12. Luke Marshall
11. Keith Earls
10. Paddy Jackson
9. Conor Murray

1. Tom Court
2. Rory Best
3. Mike Ross
4. Donnacha O’Callaghan
5. Donncha Ryan
6. Peter O’Mahony
7. Sean O’Brien
8. Jamie Heaslip

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Post by DHLS07 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 3:54 pm

I might have a few quid on Scotland looking at that.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 20 Feb 2013, 5:03 pm

As would I. Seen absolutely nothing which suggests Paddy Jackson is anything close to international standard.

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Post by Guest Wed 20 Feb 2013, 6:06 pm

That is a really weak 10/12 combo for Ireland

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 20 Feb 2013, 6:23 pm

I like it, they've got nothing to lose.

I wouldn't have Marshall far off 36 tbh

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 20 Feb 2013, 6:32 pm

Agree on Marshall. Good player, but not outside Jackson

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 20 Feb 2013, 7:33 pm

See what your saying Steve, I do like Jackson though

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Post by Driver Wed 20 Feb 2013, 7:34 pm

I like Jackson , good player.

Luke Marshall is something special at 12 though.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 20 Feb 2013, 7:36 pm

I think it is a hell of an ask of both players to play a test at 10/12 away from home with such little experience. I know BOD is there with them but he is outside them.

Club relationship will help them but they play outside Pienaar, who is a step up in class from Murray.

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Post by Driver Wed 20 Feb 2013, 7:42 pm

It's a hell of a ask for any young player to do.

The best example for me in rising to the occasion in int rugby for a young player is Frans Steyn , won the RWC at 12 within a year.
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Post by Guest Wed 20 Feb 2013, 8:43 pm

Is Marshall a regular for ulster. ?
How much top level has he played. ?

Looks a prospect but not international yet for me.

Jackson is akin to playing Ryan lamb internationally for me. Goes to pieces and very inconsistent .

Think Scotland will win and kidney out of a job

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Post by Driver Wed 20 Feb 2013, 8:55 pm

Marshall been Ulsters 12 most of this season , Played vs Fiji in the AI and created everything good about Ireland.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:06 pm

Marshall probably first choice 12 for Ulster, but strangely Jackson has looked better when Paddy Wallace has been playing outside him.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:07 pm

Marshall has shared the 12 shirt with Wallace but seems to of edged ahead of him till he picked up an injury. Decent player and deserves a chance at 12 but Jackson isn't ready for internationals yet. Not been playing well for Ulster last few months but Kidney has been backed into a corner with ROG finished at this level. Personally Madigan looks he better option for 10 but can understand why he went with the Ulster link up.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:09 pm

This is his first season really at Heineken cup level Matt. Was injured most of last year but there have always been high hopes for him. Some decent young 12s in Ireland at the moment with McSharry going well and Hanrahan getting some game time now

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:22 pm

Anyone see Juan Smith may not be retiring?!
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Post by Fluxy Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:25 pm

Yeah posted the link off PR on the other page. I think it will be like Hill's retirement in the end.

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Post by Driver Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:30 pm

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Post by Guest Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:36 pm

my questions were to make a point he has played barely any top rugby and is sharing the shirt with Wallace .

He risks getting found out especially with Jackson who for me is yet to show he should be 1st choice for ulster let alone Ireland.

Wallace looks a prospect but there are millions of those.

Hanrahan looks quality also

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 20 Feb 2013, 10:55 pm

A pretty accurate Lions watch for once

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/lions-09/story/0,25883,16016_8511766,00.html

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Post by Steven_Sharks Wed 20 Feb 2013, 11:03 pm

Vunipola ahead of marler? Nahhh

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Feb 2013, 9:08 am

How to instantly improve the France side

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8513268,00.html

Pick the right players and it looks so much better

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 21 Feb 2013, 9:14 am

Nicky Robinson signed for Bristol!!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 21 Feb 2013, 9:23 am

That French side looks 100% better than what they have put out in the competition so far. It will be a tough game for us I reckon, but I still fancy us to win.
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Post by Guest Thu 21 Feb 2013, 9:40 am

Bristol have money and are spending whoever comes down may struggle next year. They have signed Buxton also and are in for some younger talent also. Building a nice blend

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Post by stnick88 Thu 21 Feb 2013, 9:55 am

Apparently Robinson was on big wedge at Wasps so must be taking a bit of a pay cut at Bristol.

Wasps fans will be delighted he is off, they hate him!

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Post by prop_lyd Thu 21 Feb 2013, 10:18 am

He follows fellow recent recruits Errie Claassens, Andy Short, Peter Buxton and Mark Sorenson, all of whom will join Bristol from Premiership clubs, while Andy Robinson will begin work as director of rugby on March 1.

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Feb 2013, 10:21 am

Robinson is so up and down. His downs make him play like a pub player.

He will be great at that level though

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Post by stnick88 Thu 21 Feb 2013, 10:30 am

such a poor goal kicker though.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 21 Feb 2013, 10:36 am

Yeah not exactly disappointed that Robinson is leaving us, never seen a playing who can go up and down so many times in a match. He normally takes one big hit in a game and he messes everything else up.

Sadly this means that Goode rumour could be true...balls. Would be a bad signing for Wasps, as we don't play a style that suits his tactics.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 21 Feb 2013, 10:48 am

Robinson has downs?

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Post by Guest Thu 21 Feb 2013, 11:08 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Robinson has downs?

Ha ha that has made me chuckle. I should have written that differently. Those shares are on a trajectory pooly just not upwards lol

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