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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Sun 24 Feb 2013, 9:35 pm

Medical cover , He's only 29 still.
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Post by Guest Sun 24 Feb 2013, 9:39 pm

They have enough Backrow though . Money no problem though

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Post by Driver Sun 24 Feb 2013, 9:41 pm

Trying to win HC and T14 could do with all the depth they can.

6.Lobbe/Elsom
7.Armitage/Gunther
8.JFL/JVN

Some depth.
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Post by prop_lyd Sun 24 Feb 2013, 10:57 pm

20mins into Cheetah;s-Sharks.....both breakdown's very messy. Botes doing well and Sharks scrum incredibly strong. Rhule looks like an exciting player.
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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 8:55 am

Rhule looks a real footballer and playmaking wing not just pace . My type of winger.

Was chuffed to get him from Driver

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 9:09 am

They have been talking a lot about this Petersen who scored 2 tries for the kings in super 15

Lots tipping him as a future star. Maybe worth a look for someone wanting an out and out gas man http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/sar-vault-super-sergeal

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Feb 2013, 10:15 am

Rhule will be a SA regular, class act

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 10:21 am

Just seen on Facebook that Adam Ashley-Cooper has signed for Leinster. Not sure how true it is.
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Post by Driver Mon 25 Feb 2013, 10:31 am

Leinster forum saying its just a rumour at the moment.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Feb 2013, 10:37 am

Be some signing

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Post by DHLS07 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 10:51 am

A recurring theme in comments on my games has been that we are solid and difficult to beat which is what I wanted but also that a lot of attacks would stop with de Villiers at 13 and we lack flair. Do I need to make a change in the centres and put somebody else in with one of de Villiers or Nonu, or is the current set up best to stick with?

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 10:55 am

Stick with them DHL you have done the first part of the job and made them hard to beat and won a few. Now it's about building some flair in. Your centres fit your game.

If you have steyn at 10 you will be kicking a lot and using those centres to truck it up

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Feb 2013, 10:57 am

If I were you I'd look to get some flair or pace on the wings. Thompstone good for that but Cueto not so much.

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Post by DHLS07 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 11:12 am

Ok, thanks. I see on the match page that fatigue has been mentioned. Do I need to rotate a bit more, as I've been sticking with the same players a bit as I needed to get some wins.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 11:14 am

It's more over a season really DHL I tend to rotate my front row and Backrow quite a bit and use a different team in the LV cup. Driver rotated sarries quite a bit so your team would be fine.


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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Feb 2013, 11:14 am

DHL I'd stick with Nonu and de Villiers, really good combination and makes you very hard to beat at home and will stop high scores away from home. It could stop you getting many BP wins.

I agree with Steve, get some pace on the wings and people who can run off the linebreaks that your team will make through the midfield.

Am hoping I avoid you during the 6Nations as could struggle with Giteau and Daly there!

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Post by DHLS07 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 11:25 am

Cheers. Have made a couple of alterations for this week. Changed a winger, beefed up the back row and added a ball carrier in the front row.

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Feb 2013, 11:52 am

Open to offers on following , likes of Franks , Tonga , McCaw , Bowe and AAC need big deals.

HK Agustín Creevy (Argentina)
TH Paul Doran-Jones (England)
TH Owen Franks (New Zealand)
TH Clement Ric (France)
LH Soane Tonga'uiha (Tonga)
LH Alex Waller (England)
LK Paul O'Connell (Ireland)
LK Brad Thorn (New Zealand)
LK Yoann Maestri (France)
LK Ed Slater (England)
OS Richie McCaw(c) (New Zealand)
OS Heinrich Brussow (South Africa)
N8 Chris Masoe (New Zealand)
SH Jimmy Cowan (New Zealand)
SH Luke Burgess (Austrailia)
SH Jean-Marc Doussain (France) (12/02/91)
FH Colin Slade (New Zealand)
IC Scott Wiliiams (Wales) (10/10/1990)
IC Ben Williams (England)
OC Jaque Fourie (South Afica)
OC Adam Ashley-Cooper (Austrailia)
WG Miles Benjamin (England)
WG Tommy Bowe (Ireland)
FB Jared Payne (New Zealand)
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Feb 2013, 11:56 am

We getting injuries soon Pete?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:00 pm

After 6 Nations Steve. Will be the last lot for the season. After 6 Nations there are 10 rounds left (all competitions including play offs), so everyone will have 8 players injured with one returning each week, starting 2 weeks after the injuries kick in.

Hope that makes sense.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:08 pm

8 players?!? Shocked

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:10 pm

Is it the 8 who play in the last game before injuries or random

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:15 pm

I'm not going to say Mat as it may mean people alter their team selections to avoid injuries to key men. However, the last week before the injuries there is only one match which is the LV final. I may select a random week already played and will be players from the teams put out in that round.
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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:17 pm

Carter is being wrapped up in cotton wool!

Will make sure goosen does not get bench as I can't afford to lose two int 10s

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:26 pm

Back row @tomwood678 was in titanic form vs FRA: made 23 tackles, hit 21 breakdowns, won two turnovers and grabbed four line outs

Whilst Robshaw has got a lot of the headlines (becoming a bit of a media darling?), Tom Wood has been fantastic this 6N.

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:28 pm

I'd say they both have been impressive , Tom Wood is the closest we've got to a world class back row.
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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:30 pm

Wood has been sensational. England's player of the tournament

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:50 pm

Wood gets a bit overrated for being underrated for me. It was similar with Robshaw pre call up.

Good player Wood, world class no.

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 12:59 pm

very good player.

id say players like o'brien get overated, his ball carrying etc makes people notice whereas wood does a lot more unseen work and doesnt get the praise he deserves sometimes.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:04 pm

Some people get overrated for unseen work too lol

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:06 pm

Sob made 23 carries this week....rated for a reason

Don't think wood is underrated personally.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:09 pm

Personally I would have wood over obrien. Obrien is useful if you have a team on top but not a very bright player and gives away stupid penalties and is not clever at the breakdown

If a team is on front foot he is a good carrier and does a very good job. Think he could do well for the lions against Australia's pack but you need to have the balance of the Backrow right

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:11 pm

He made tons if carries but also gave away stupid penalties.
Ireland were not let down by their Backrow they were let down by kidneys selections like Jackson and earls

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:11 pm

Sob was one of their best players yesterday

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:21 pm

Espn will be no more bt sport have bought espn UK

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:22 pm

well thats one way of getting onto the sky platform!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:35 pm

Anyone know what sort of price BT will be charging for their sport package?

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:47 pm

Assuming sky subscribers can get rugby through bt channel replacing espn ?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:49 pm

No idea how it will work. Is there going to be a BT sport channel on Sky, or do you need to get a BT box? I have BT internet, so can I get it as part of that package? They don't seem to have publicised very well what the score is.
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Post by dammit_chris Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:50 pm

I'm doing some work with BT this afternoon, will ask in the meeting!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:52 pm

I've heard Sky will be hosting the channels too, a bit like espn. I hope this is right as my dodgy box won't help me watch rugby.

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:56 pm

My dodgy box won't let me watch anything!
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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 1:56 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I've heard Sky will be hosting the channels too, a bit like espn. I hope this is right as my dodgy box won't help me watch rugby.

That is what I imagine I will happen

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:07 pm

I am curious as to the price of it really. Think ESPN is 10 a month so hopefully it won't increase.

Think it will be a ploy for BT to match sky in the phone, internet and tv market. Those bundle deals must hurt BT and other phone providers.

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:09 pm

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21577676

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Post by stnick88 Mon 25 Feb 2013, 2:24 pm

Hala'ufia cited

personally i thought the yellow was sufficient but no doubt they will throw the book at him

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Feb 2013, 3:25 pm

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8523789,00.html

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Feb 2013, 3:29 pm

2 of them backs in my academy.

Steve when will you get you team in? I will be on my phone for next 6 weeks with no laptop.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 25 Feb 2013, 3:35 pm

Errr I am not entirely sure. Not thought on it yet as have 3000 word essay to do for thursday.

Won't be playing any 6N players, likely to be similar to side that faced Leicester. Not planning any major suprises

Woodcock, Brits, Afoa, Botha, Borthwick, Kruis/Henry, Hooper, Easter, Dickson/Houghard, Burns, Guildford/Biggs, Contepomi/Faainga, JJ/Smith, Morahan , Taylor.

Be something like that.

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Post by Driver Mon 25 Feb 2013, 4:18 pm

Richie Grey off to Castres apparently.
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