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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 11:17 am

Yea I think Mako offers a little bit more all round tbh but needs testing from the off. He was outstanding against Exeter a couple of weeks back

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Mar 2013, 11:50 am

We'll see. I still think Mako needs to play for AP rugby myself to learn a bit more about it. He has 19 AP appearances with 9 starts which isn't much at all.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 11:52 am

I know you are a Marler fan Steve, and no doubt he's a good player, but do you honestly feel that he has been anything above average in this 6 Nations so far?
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 08 Mar 2013, 12:00 pm

Marker hasn't done anything of note. Not anonymous but not far short.

Big test for Vuni vs Castro.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Mar 2013, 12:13 pm

I don't think he has been at his best by any stretch.

My issue isn't with Marler not playing but I am just not convinced Mako is the answer at the moment. Worried about ruining him with a few bad experiences. He is not experienced by any stretch and I feel it would be more beneficial to play more rugby for Saracens before he is thrown into a starting test shirt against Castro and a powerful Italian scrum. I would feel better if he were along side Hartley but Youngs is also only a pup when it comes to the front row in general let alone at international level. 22 AP starts between Mako and Youngs against a hugely experienced and powerful Italian trio.

Might be proved completely wrong, but that would be my plan, although I understand Rowntree is very excited by him.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 12:21 pm

I think Corbs England debut was against Castro and I remember him more than holding his own. Hopefully Mako can do the same.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 08 Mar 2013, 12:23 pm

Steve did you not see Mako's speed to get into position for the set up for Manu's try the other week - such deft footwork to get the ball straight to his hands to. Any other prop would have been pinged for being offside...

Mako needs to keep improving his fitness, great ball carrier but even in his cameos off the bench he has been lazy at rucks - huge step up from AP to international.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 12:24 pm

Steve, I do agree that in an ideal world a young loosehead like Mako would get his first start alongside an experience hooker and tighthead. I suspect that Lancaster is happy to settle for parity at scrum time, and wants to dominating the breakdown and try to open them up in the backs.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 12:29 pm

I've been very disappointed with Marler, he's not transported AP form onto the Int stage.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 4:23 pm

Lots of rumours on The Craic that Max Lahiff is off to Super Rugby next season, with the Reds or Rebels the most likely destinations. Makes sense for the lad as he is great in the loose and is Aus qualified.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 08 Mar 2013, 4:26 pm

Reds could do with a younger loosehead, but would prefer a better scrumagger.

Reds played well in patches this morning. They simply look a better coached sides than the other Oz sides bar the Brumbies.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 4:31 pm

Scrummaging isn't the strongest part of his game, but he has improved massively in that area over the last 12 months. I'd go as far as saying that even where he's at now with scrummaging, he would be slightly ahead of most Australian Super Rugby props.
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Post by stnick88 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 4:50 pm

probably agree with you there pete.

be a real shame to lose him. if he could improve his scrummaging he could be a top AP prop in the future. so strong in the loose.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 08 Mar 2013, 4:54 pm

Out of interest who do people rate as the best props in the AP now - where would Matt Mullan feature, think he's Wasps best signing so far.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

Sounds very much as if Lahiff has signed for the Rebels.
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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:17 pm

Best in ap for me

Ayerza loose head followed by marler and then wood. Corbs best by quite some distance but often out. Mako great but not enough games or fitness yet.

Cole tighthead followed by Jj and castro. both him and Jj a bigger scrummager

We are strong at front row in the league .

Best unit probably Quins or Leicester with glos just behind although we usually combust in the scrum around now due to lack of depth.

Saints a great unit but have had out of form/ fitness props.


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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:20 pm

To be fair all of them have the upper hand on each other sometimes.

Every prop has a certain one they struggle with.

Cole struggles against squat compact props. Admitted he had no idea what to do with Domingo.

Castro struggles vs wood who struggles like mad against JJ.

Complex stuff.

Seen marler get obliterated by many players but usually comes back strong the next time he plays them
Which is a sign of a class act. All props take a beating sometimes

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:22 pm

Think cole and ayerza blend around the pitch with scrummaging best out of the props.

Think mako will be a star in that respect but he is nowhere near fit enough for int 80 minutes

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:31 pm

Lifetime ban for Mike Scott then.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:47 pm

I've seen Gloucester take some right pastings in scrum this season Matt. I wouldn't have them anyway near a top 3 unit

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 7:49 pm

Watching the bath game the other day the commentators all said about glos being one of the best units around and I agree.

For me that unit is wood dawiduik and Harden.

That unit has not played much this year due to injuries wood and harden and poor form dawiduik who looked back to his best before sending off.

Also locks play a big role. We are tons better when Hamilton plays.
He is a beast scrum wise.

We have had a few hidings but Edmunds would be involved in most of them

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 8:00 pm

"Watching the bath game the other day the commentators all said about glos being one of the best units around and I agree."

Did they say that as Bath marched them backwards?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 8:10 pm

http://m.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story.html?aid=18313541

"We must fix our scrum to reach playoffs"

Doesn't sound like a team with one of best scrums in AP. Sarries, Bath, Tigers, Quins much better stronger than Gloucester.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 8:31 pm

Cowan-Dickie is immense!!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 8:42 pm

But he can't throw for sh1t, why put a fantastic LH prospect to hooker??

Slade looking much more comftable this year, not a bad outfit

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:06 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:http://m.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/story.html?aid=18313541

"We must fix our scrum to reach playoffs"

Doesn't sound like a team with one of best scrums in AP. Sarries, Bath, Tigers, Quins much better stronger than Gloucester.

Proves my point no Hamilton Etc. as I said our bare 5 is up there but around this time of
Year usually falls to pieces due to playing too many games. Harden out now and dawiduik see us get smashed. Knight did well when harden was out but we are down to chistoloni which is dire.

Hamilton most important glos player and you look at how many games we have lost when he is playing and its nearly nil. Without him we are not a top. 4 side.

Saracens Leicester and Quins way ahead of the others

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:13 pm

"Saracens Leicester and Quins way ahead of the others"

This for me. Stevens going well has helped Sarries. Quins always dominate sides and tigers probably the best.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:18 pm

Stookes looks nothing special, this England 9 Brady is bloody awful.

LCD to LH at last

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:22 pm

How we doing ?

Stookes has a huge interest to England. They monitor him all the time and are investing serious time in him. I have not seen enough to see what warrants it and he is often injured.

Rowntree is a huge fan.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:26 pm

Only mentioned him as he gets a lot of press. Big lad but not great.

Execution is really poor but were way to powerful.

LCD is a class above everyone on park. Clifford looks great but can't imagine him kicking on too much for some reason. Sisi/Wells good

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:28 pm

Hard to judge on one game. It's a real curates egg watching England under 20 we always lack cohesion

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Post by Driver Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:29 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Lifetime ban for Mike Scott then.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:30 pm

Can't keep hold of ball, LCD the new Marler, carrying is unreal

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Post by Guest Fri 08 Mar 2013, 9:51 pm

Ross moriarty from glos is a good player at u20 he got sent off against Ireland but is a big hope

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 08 Mar 2013, 11:45 pm

Phew. Got off lightly...

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_8547052,00.html

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 09 Mar 2013, 12:05 am

Hes a lucky boy!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Mar 2013, 7:37 am

Cheetahs blew Highlanders away there! Pretorious/Goosen great.

Good to see Colin Slade back, looks rusty mind

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:18 am

Goosen 8/8, some turnaround.

Brussow and Ooustaisan looking good, Poki & Ben Smith strong for Highlanders.

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:35 am

Goosen is coming back after injury so expected to be rusty first couple of games. His kicking generally is superb. Thought he was excellent today. Being able to boom the ball over from. 60m scares opposition teams

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:38 am

Good to see coonie and Brussow back. Coonie best prop around the park you will see. Always near the top of stealing balls and is a prop.

Interesting to see how Brussow comes back.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:53 am

Brussow was in everything, looked good.

Conie great round the park but no TH, Woodcock got on top of him, much better at LH

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Mar 2013, 8:55 am

George Smith on, Pocock injured

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Mar 2013, 9:13 am

He is better at lose head but they may be able to convert him. He is only 23

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Mar 2013, 9:16 am

Yea still young, big fan.

Hooper not playing well here, Smith looking the better 7

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Mar 2013, 9:21 am

How can a hooker as bad as the waratahs reserve have a pro
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 09 Mar 2013, 9:55 am

Drew Mitchell looking good

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Post by Guest Sat 09 Mar 2013, 9:57 am

Mogg great again. Can see him being wallabies 15. Think a lot of folk on here will be in for him

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 09 Mar 2013, 10:08 am

How bad was Pocock's injury??
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Post by Guest Sat 09 Mar 2013, 10:17 am

ACL probably. George smith been great

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 09 Mar 2013, 10:18 am

Questionable for Lions then! Smith been good, been impressed by Auelua too.
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