Wales v England Official Match Thread

by RubyGuby Wed 13 Mar 2013, 1:32 pm

First topic message reminder :

It's 5th v 4th in the World Rankings on Sat. and a real opportunity for 1 of these sides to put another marker down in their development - These games now have even greater significance given that we share the same RWC Pool in 2015 - The fact that Wales have won the last 2 meetings between these old foes will count for nothing - It should be Awesome . thumbsup

Good luck to both teams and both sets of fans thumbsup

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:10 pm

nathan wrote:please dont lt this game be about scrums

There was a time eng would have loved that. What want wrong with our forward play?

by Shifty Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:10 pm

Cmon Cmon Cmon kick it! Yahoo

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:11 pm

3 - nil then.

by Looseheaded Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:11 pm

I may have made an involuntary noise at the beauty of that first scrum. Destroyed.

by **Biltong** Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:11 pm

Geez its a tad difficult to roll away when someone is sitting on your face. Laugh

by Shifty Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:11 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:No corbs means eng are going to have a horrible afternoon in the scrum I fear.

Hmm Wales by ten?

Very very early yet mate. there is a long way to go and I'd be amazed if Wales dominated england for the entire game. It will be 50/50 all the way I think.

by IanBru Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:12 pm

At times, it's good to state just how much I love this bloody game.

Wales v England. With beer. Wicked.

by **Biltong** Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:12 pm

I suspect a few of those spectatorscare going to pull a throat muscle.

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:13 pm

Yup I'm afraid the welsh will be right to crow all day, their forward pack is going to kill ours at this rate.

As the press said then. A welsh 6n and eng humiliated.

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:13 pm

what the hell was that for???

by flyhalffactory Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:13 pm

Good afternoon folks

Dribbling here with jealously at the awesome atmosphere at the MS. Needless penalty by England

by Looseheaded Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:14 pm

Ashton is so f**king stupid in that ruck. Great start for Wales here

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:15 pm

dummy throw by hibbard...

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:15 pm

Ashton really is a liability at the moment. A good player but he's hurting the team.

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:15 pm

We're picking sides that are just too light weight and small.

by **George Carlin** Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:15 pm

I'll give it 10 minutes before Moore calls Ashton a halfwit.

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:17 pm

this ref doesnt seem to like england....

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

Yeah, we're not winning this are we.

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

how long till we hear a welsh player called "world class" by Jiffy

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:18 pm

nathan wrote:this ref doesnt seem to like england....

Why does this ref, banned for attacking eng coaches once, get to ref eng?

He hates them and it means he can never be trusted and there is never validity to his officiating even if it is correct.

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:19 pm

Youngs didn't roll away as Robshaw was too quick to the ruck. Shame but can't blame Walsh for that.

by Shifty Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:19 pm

I don't think Walsh likes England at all, but you are giving him reasons to penalise you to be fair. censored

by flyhalffactory Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:19 pm

F**k Halfpenny is good

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:20 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:We're picking sides that are just too light weight and small.

Yep, zero ball carriers. This is what you get. Poor back-row pick from SL. Hopefully we'll pick up.

by Looseheaded Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:20 pm

Hood83 wrote:Youngs didn't roll away as Robshaw was too quick to the ruck. Shame but can't blame Walsh for that.

Also it looked to me as if Robshaw had his weight actually on Youngs, so could've been pinged for that really

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:20 pm

Hood83 wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:We're picking sides that are just too light weight and small.

Yep, zero ball carriers. This is what you get. Poor back-row pick from SL. Hopefully we'll pick up.

How badly do they miss Morgan against this heavy superior pack?

by flyhalffactory Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:21 pm

This ref likes England......... that was a dodgy pen 50/50 shout

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:21 pm

Very close call for Warburton there.

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:21 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:
Hood83 wrote:
trebellbobaggins wrote:We're picking sides that are just too light weight and small.

Yep, zero ball carriers. This is what you get. Poor back-row pick from SL. Hopefully we'll pick up.

How badly do they miss Morgan against this heavy superior pack?

alot!

by Shifty Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:21 pm

jammy bástard boxing

6-3

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:23 pm

Shifty wrote:jammy bástard
6-3

nothing jammy about it, he intended to do thta! lol

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:23 pm

I don't think a scrum is any help to us whatsoever. Our pack's way too light.

by Looseheaded Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:23 pm

Dan Cole's hopes of sneaking the Lions shirt ahead of Adam are starting to falter

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:23 pm

hibbard was the first up then!!!

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:23 pm

Keeping it to within 8 seems impossible with every scrum getting beaten.

After marler got stuffed by Aussie I'm afraid he should have been forgotten. Not good enough.

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

Saw that coming a mile off.

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

Looseheaded wrote:Dan Cole's hopes of sneaking the Lions shirt ahead of Adam are starting to falter

at scrum time yes, he still better than jones in the loose.

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

Our scrum has been pretty damn poor all tournament.

by EnglishReign Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:24 pm

Who stood up first there?!

by flyhalffactory Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

The Welsh scrum is just awesome these days, how valuable is Robyn McBryde to Wales. Tucked us up last week, now hitting the scrum low on Coles side

by Shifty Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

9-3 yeah!

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

And that is frustrating when eng should be able to produce good prop forwards.

This lack of forwards deserves punishing in all honesty.

by Hood83 Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:25 pm

trebellbobaggins wrote:Keeping it to within 8 seems impossible with every scrum getting beaten.

After marler got stuffed by Aussie I'm afraid he should have been forgotten. Not good enough.

Yeah, it's the one problem with the knock-on rule. Wales mess up then instantly get a chance for 3 points with a better scrum.

by Shifty Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:26 pm

flyhalffactory wrote:The Welsh scrum is just awesome these days, how valuable is Robyn McBryde to Wales. Tucked us up last week, now hitting the scrum low on Coles side

I think it's more to do with Adam Jones and Gethin Jenkins who have been first choice props since oh erm 2002, lol Shocked

by Looseheaded Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:26 pm

Phillips' work and composure at the restart is great, rarely picked up on but he's got on the front foot and given platforms every time

by flyhalffactory Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:26 pm

nathan wrote:
Looseheaded wrote:Dan Cole's hopes of sneaking the Lions shirt ahead of Adam are starting to falter

at scrum time yes, he still better than jones in the loose.

He certainly is not, have you seen Jones two covering tackles over the last five mins

by nathan Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:27 pm

great, so we have to have our players screaming at the ref to get the pen

by **Biltong** Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:27 pm

This is going to be a penalty fest.

by trebellbobaggins Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:27 pm

Shifty wrote:
flyhalffactory wrote:The Welsh scrum is just awesome these days, how valuable is Robyn McBryde to Wales. Tucked us up last week, now hitting the scrum low on Coles side

I think it's more to do with Adam Jones and Gethin Jenkins who have been first choice props since oh erm 2002, lol

I remember jones emerging and giving my cornish boy Vickery a good going over.

He is world class. And he is a lovely bloke too. I only ever wish the best for players like him whoever they play for.

by flyhalffactory Sat 16 Mar 2013, 5:28 pm

Shifty wrote:
flyhalffactory wrote:The Welsh scrum is just awesome these days, how valuable is Robyn McBryde to Wales. Tucked us up last week, now hitting the scrum low on Coles side

I think it's more to do with Adam Jones and Gethin Jenkins who have been first choice props since oh erm 2002, lol

In 2002 Adam Jones was the most unfit prop you could get furious

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