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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 17 Mar 2013, 1:10 pm

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Breaking News: One point now separates the bottom three teams after London Wasps home win against Saracens.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:38 pm

He was injured Mat, and the guys that have been playing have done well so Brian Smith has stuck with them.
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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:42 pm

theres a little bit more to it than that as well pete. all will be revealed in time!

Matt thoughts on Monahan? would you be annoyed if he left and signed for us? apparently were in talks with him

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:45 pm

You can have him nick.

Poor in defence as he is so slow
To turn. Decent squad player but we have tons of wings coming through.

Very strong on front foot and a lump. Better than Rudd who you had although that's not saying much.

He is a bog standard club player who could do a job

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:47 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Heaslip been immense for Leinster and had 2 poor games in 6n. You need experience and characters on a lions tour. He was great vs Wales and good against France

I think making him captain and Ireland being
Poor has affected him but I would have him in my team every week.

Just offers
More than the others and reads a game

He hasn't been immense for Leinster and wasn't great against Wales and France.

I just can't see how you can think he's playing well

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:51 pm

Haha mate Rhino Rudd was absolutely useless!!

just a lump.

To be fair we dont really need Monahan, Fenby from Scarlets who we signed is a better player.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:54 pm

How's Corbs coming on Nick?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:54 pm

With regards the 6N players playing in AP they are rested much more in real life than on here with regular breaks throughout normal AP weeks.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:54 pm

doubt will play again this season.

knees in bits.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:55 pm

Said he was decent vs France and every rating for that game
Put him above Pom.

against Wales he was top drawer .

Leinster performances not in doubt. He had a poor 6n like
Most of Irish team including BOD.

I know he is your hobby horse at the moment along with your perennial one of Hartley.

Faletau had dross season but decent 6n and you have him head and shoulders above?

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 12:55 pm

I genuinely think Rudd is the worst ap player of all time. He was dreadful
for every club yet still got contracts

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:01 pm

Faletau had poor start to season but has been much better than Heaslip imo.

You state Faletau has had dross season and Heaslip immense.....both of these statements are so far from the truth.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:33 pm

This would be my Lions squad.

1. Cian Healy, Gethin Jenkins, Ryan Grant
2. Richard Hibbard, Rory Best, Dylan Hartley
3. Adam Jones, Dan Cole, Euan Murray
4. Jim Hamilton, Richie Gray
5. Geoff Parling, Ian Evans
6. Tom Wood, Chris Robshaw, Kelly Brown
7. Sam Warburton, Justin Tipuric
8. Johnnie Beattie, Toby Faletau

9. Mike Phillips, Conor Murray, Ben Youngs
10. Johnny Sexton, Owen Farrell, Dan Biggar

11. George North, Craig Gilroy
12. Jamie Roberts, Matt Scott
13. Manu Tuilagi, Brian O'Driscoll
14. Christian Wade, Sean Maitland
15. Stuart Hogg, Leigh Halfpenny, Rob Kearney

That's 37 players, broke down by nationality as follows.

England 9
Wales 12
Ireland 7
Scotland 9

The breakdown of players by nationality actually surprised me, as I thought I would select mainly English and Welsh, but the split is pretty even. I think we have an issue on the wing, where I didn't want to pick Maitland as I would prefer not to select brought in from other nations players. I've also gone for Wade as a bolter, as on hard ground out there he could be a real weapon for us.
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Post by Fluxy Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:36 pm

Wouldn't be surprised by that! Neither any complaints, only might see Launch in for Brown to cover both lock and 6

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:37 pm

From the squad that I've selected, if the first test was tomorrow my team would be...

15. Hogg
14. Halfpenny
13. Tuilagi
12. Roberts
11. North
10. Farrell
9. Phillips

1. Jenkins
2. Hibbard
3. Jones
4. Hamilton (c)
5. Evans
6. Wood
7. Tipuric
8. Beattie

16. Best 17. Healy 18. Cole 19. Parling 20. Brown 21. Youngs 22. Sexton 23. Not sure
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:39 pm

I was mulling over a lock/back row option Fluxy, and was considering Launchbury and Donnacha Ryan, but I just felt that Kelly Brown was very good and deserved a place on tour more than either of those two players.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:40 pm

How much for not sure?

SOB has to tour for me. Can't see Wade going personally.

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:44 pm

Not a bad stab Pete think heaslip and launch will go. Much as I love Hamilton captaincy is not his forte and he is more comfortable at 5. Gray will be 4 maybe with Hamilton

Also think sexton will be in for defo

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:46 pm

You can have him for free luke! Wink

I have not been impressed with SOB, he carries and not much else for me. I can honestly say that I think he has been better than any of the back rows I've gone with. I agree that Wade will not go, but I would want some X factor in my backs, and I think none of the wings really excited me in the 6 Nations.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:48 pm

So from the squad that i would select, who do you leave out to accomodate SOB, Launchbury and Heaslip? or do you take a bigger squad?

Thinking about it, I would actually take 38 and add Launchbury to the squad I've selected.
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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:50 pm

I actually would take heaslip and Beattie and leave faletau behind if it was me.

Would take 2 full backs to accommodate.

Always said I am no sob fan he carries and nowt else prefer more intelligent players who offer a bit more.

That said with right Backrow he could work

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:51 pm

I will do similar Pete. This is who I'd take if I was coach.

Squad of 39.

1. Healy, Jenkins, Grant
2. Hibbard, Best, Hartley
3. Jones, Cole, Ross
4. Launchbury, Hines, Gray
5. Parling, Ryan
6. Wood, SOB, Brown
7. Warburton, Tipuric, Robshaw
8. Beattie, Faletau
9. Youngs, Phillips, Laidlaw
10. Sexton, Farrell, Biggar
11. North, Zebo
12. Roberts, Davies
13. Tuilagi, BOD
14. Cuthbert, Visser
15. Hogg, Kearney, Halfpenny.

With a first test team of

1. Healy
2. Hibbard
3. Jones
4. Gray
5. Parling
6. Wood
7. Warburton (c)
8. Beattie
9. Youngs
10. Sexton
11. Zebo
12. Roberts
13. Tuilagi
14. Cuthbert
15. Kearney

16. Best 17. Jenkins 18. Cole 19. Launchbury 20. SOB 21. Phillips 22. Farrell 23. BOD


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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 1:57 pm

I actually forgot about Hines Steve. I might think about taking him, although if ASM reach the play offs am not sure he'd be available anyway.
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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 2:11 pm

My Team

1 Healy
2 Hibbard
3 Jones
4 Hamilton
5 Gray
6 Wood
7 Warburton
8 Beattie
9 Phillips
10 Sexton
11 North
12 Roberts
13 Tuilagi
14 Halfpenny
15 Hogg

16 Jenkins
17 Best
18 Cole
19 Parling
20 Brown
21 Youngs
22 Farrell
23 Kearney

There is a lot of close calls. Jones the better scrummager but against a weak Aussie scrum Cole could be more useful in the loose.

I like the Hamilton / Gray combo, has everything. Could get Parling involved.

Back 3 combo could be changed, Zebo or Maitland could be involved if you want someone different to North/Cuthbert.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Mar 2013, 3:56 pm

Going down to Sale tonight. Gonna be baltic so we best win!! Think we have a fair chance

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 3:58 pm

Yes you have a good chance. Not cipriani weather though !

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Mar 2013, 3:59 pm

He isn't playing. Macleod at 10 thankfully!

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 4:06 pm

I wouldnt be surprised to see you win. You have a good home record on Friday nights. Bath are a good side though. think it will be a close one.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Mar 2013, 4:07 pm

I haven't heard anything about Welsh yet today either. If their points are reinstated then it will make the league a mockery.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 4:16 pm

if there points get reinstated then there will be an uproar from a number of clubs. cant see them going back on their original decision.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 22 Mar 2013, 4:30 pm

I think it will remain the same. If you broke the rules, I'm afraid to say you broke the rules!

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 5:14 pm

Rfu say welsh have a strong appeal

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 5:16 pm

For you pooly http://planetrugby.com/lions-09/story/0,25883,3551_8582864,00.html

Halfpenny voted player of 6 nations. 100% agree has become a fantastic player and will be a big name for lions

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 5:17 pm

A few players having a late tilt at the lions

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8583776,00.html

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 5:19 pm

Can't believe how bad he was at Toulouse
. Actually a decent player
http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,9818_8582882,00.html

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 5:20 pm

anonmattyt wrote:A few players having a late tilt at the lions

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8583776,00.html

Guarantee POC will be injured again before the end of the season.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 5:57 pm

anonmattyt wrote:For you pooly http://planetrugby.com/lions-09/story/0,25883,3551_8582864,00.html

Halfpenny voted player of 6 nations. 100% agree has become a fantastic player and will be a big name for lions

Well it shows how bad he's being playing if he feels the need to come out with that. Odd that he'd say it after getting slated and playing so bad too.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 6:04 pm

"I actually would take heaslip and Beattie and leave faletau behind if it was me."

That's quite funny.

Lions squad:

1. Healy/Jenkins/Grant
2. Best/Hibbard/Youngs
3. Jones/Cole/Ross
4. Gray/Launchbury/Evans
5. Ryan/POC(fitness)
6. SOB/Brown/POM
7. Robshaw/Warburton/Tipuric
8. Faletau/Beattie

9. Youngs/Phillips/Laidlaw
10. Sexton/Farrell
11. North/Maitland/May
12. JD/Roberts/36
13. Tuilagi/BOD
14. Cuthbert/Bowe
15. Kearney/Halfpenny

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 6:07 pm

Squad limit is 37 garland announced that's what he is taking

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Post by Guest Fri 22 Mar 2013, 6:40 pm

"I actually would take heaslip and Beattie and leave faletau behind if it was me."

I really would. Prefer intelligent players at 8 who can offload or throw
A pass. I like faletau but think he would be better as a flanker

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 7:13 pm

Despite him having no form?? Strong case of team bias wanting Heaslip, he's not in the other 2's league imo

I'm glad you're not on the Lions selection team Wink

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 22 Mar 2013, 7:32 pm

Fotuali'I just gets better each time I watch him! Interesting how O's are playing their Welsh contingent yet that would get slated on here just after 6 nations.
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Post by CJB Fri 22 Mar 2013, 8:03 pm

Lions lineup

1 Cian Healy
2 Richard Hibbard
3 Adam Jones
4 Richie Gray
5 Geoff Parling
6 Sean O'Brien
7 Sam Warburton
8 Toby Falateu
9 Connor Murray
10 Jonathon Sexton
11 George North
12 Jamie Roberts
13 Manu Tuilagi
14 Leigh Halfpenny
15 Staurt Hogg

16 Gethin Jenkins
17 Tom Youngs
18 Dan Cole
19 Ian Evans
20 Chris Robshaw
21 Mike Phillips
22 Owen Farrell
23 Rob Kearney/Jonathan Davies/Alex Cuthbert

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 22 Mar 2013, 8:06 pm

My squad. We should all post, closest gets £5m

15. Kearney/Hogg
14. North/Cuthbert/Visser
13. BOD (c)/Tuilagi
12. Roberts/JD2/Barritt
11. Halfpenny/Zebo
10. Sexton/Farrell
09. Phillips/Youngs/Laidlaw

1. Jenkins/Healy/Grant
2. Best/Hibbard/Youngs
3. Jones/Cole/Ross
4. Hamilton/Hines
5. Parling/Gray
6. Robshaw/Wood
7. Warburton/Tipuric
8. SOB/Falatau/Heaslip

England: 9
Wales: 12
Ireland: 9
Scotland: 7

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 8:38 pm

Falcons are getting beat Shocked

Hardest game this season

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 8:43 pm

Updates from Sale vs. Bath on twitter indicate it's a shoite game which is currently level at 3-3.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 8:45 pm

We're getting beat 12-5, Gopperth playing poorly.....again

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 8:57 pm

Who you playing?
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Mar 2013, 9:00 pm

Sale 9-3 up at half time.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 9:00 pm

Nottingham, only team that look like challenging us tbh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Mar 2013, 9:02 pm

12-8 now.

Be good win for Sale

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