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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 17 Mar 2013, 1:10 pm

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Breaking News: One point now separates the bottom three teams after London Wasps home win against Saracens.

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Mon 08 Apr 2013, 1:43 pm

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8625729,00.html

Apart from borthick and Stevens would agree.

Would replace with cole and Bakkies

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Apr 2013, 1:44 pm

Quins suffer from not having the same depth as Sarries, Tigers, Saints. Their form has really dropped off since they lost their players in the 6Nations.

Whole pack seems to have suffered, they aren't making hard yards or able to compete physicality wise.

Only guys who have been playing well I've seen are Dickson, Botica and Casson.

Nick - JTH not injured, played the week before.

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Post by Guest Mon 08 Apr 2013, 1:51 pm

Same happens to glos but is more pronounced for Quins as they have played more high profile games.

They have also had more injuries this year.

Monye has been great all year and whilst not
So much of a threat ball in hand has been a rock in defence and really improved with age in that respect

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 08 Apr 2013, 1:55 pm

No lies no Matt Wink

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 08 Apr 2013, 2:01 pm

Monye become a beast under the high ball.

Excited for both Semis.

Munster will need more than a brilliant 20 mins to beat Clermont but POC v Bonnaire at lineout will be fascinating.

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Post by Guest Mon 08 Apr 2013, 2:21 pm

Think clermont will have too much physicality for them.

Thought the Munster 7 was excellent yesterday. No seen much of him before.

If you can get after bonnaire then clermont lineout can fall to pieces. A bit like Leicester without croft.

Once croft went off Leicester were forced in to front ball a lot more and when they did go longer it did not that well. Shows how much easier to throw in it is when you have a world class jumper like bonnaire and croft.

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Post by Guest Mon 08 Apr 2013, 5:27 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8625783,00.html

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Apr 2013, 7:15 pm

Mata'u seems to be getting quite a few mentions on that team of the week these days. Not complaining about that.

Can't believe how much Julian Savea has come on in the last 12 months either, almost released him at the end of last season!

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Post by Guest Mon 08 Apr 2013, 7:40 pm

Savea has become a monster and improved his all round game . He is involved so much and if you can get him one on one then he will generally get through. Very balanced runner.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 08 Apr 2013, 8:44 pm

Matu is a good carrier but raw, basics aren't great even for Super rugby. He's a bit like a worse TPN really.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 08 Apr 2013, 10:51 pm

Must be doing something right though to keep getting mentions in Planet Rugby team of the week section. Hopefully he will keep on improving. Can certainly tackle!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 08 Apr 2013, 11:09 pm

Was he in team of week?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 09 Apr 2013, 10:03 am

Anyone interested in George Merrick from my academy?

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Post by Fluxy Tue 09 Apr 2013, 10:05 am

Can be

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 09 Apr 2013, 10:08 am

Yours for 2.5 mil if you want him? Got too many young locks so he is being sacrificed to fit squad limits.

Is academy aged for 2 more years.

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Post by CJB Tue 09 Apr 2013, 4:16 pm

I'd do £2m

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 09 Apr 2013, 4:45 pm

Will give flux a chance to say yay or nay CJB but happy with that.

North officially signs for Northampton.

They are making good signings. Still need a 10 though!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Apr 2013, 5:24 pm

SA training group, think a few of you have some of the youngsters involved:

Forwards: Tendai Mtawarira, Jannie du Plessis, Frans Malherbe, Coenie Oosthuizen, Pat Cilliers, Adriaan Strauss, Bismarck du Plessis, Chiliboy Ralepelle, Eben Etzebeth, Flip van der Merwe, Juandré Kruger, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Franco van der Merwe, Siya Kolisi, Marcell Coetzee, Willem Alberts, Arno Botha, Duane Vermeulen, Pierre Spies, Ryan Kankowski.

Backs: Jano Vermaak, Francois Hougaard, Pat Lambie, Morné Steyn, Elton Jantjies, Jean de Villiers, Frans Steyn, Juan de Jongh, Jan Serfontein, Robert Ebersohn, Bryan Habana, Lwazi Mvovo, Raymond Rhule, JP Pietersen, Bjorn Basson, Zane Kirchner

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 6:55 pm

I have quite a few of those. Adriaan Strauss has been best hooker in s15 by a country mile.

Happy I managed to get rhule off driver as well he is developing nicely.

Serfontein looks great already. Cracking signing by Steve. Steph du toit has been tasty also

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 6:56 pm

Pete has malharbe who looks good.

Can't see why kankoski still involved

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 09 Apr 2013, 6:56 pm

What are the best teams in s15 this season? Hven't been able to watch too many matches so far.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 09 Apr 2013, 6:58 pm

I have Malherbe on the other game, cracking player. Might solve SA's TH issue.

Quite glad to see Ebersohn in there, I've had my eye on him.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 09 Apr 2013, 6:59 pm

Brumbies are a class side. Along with Cheetahs and Chiefs this year

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 7:18 pm

Brumbies slipped of late whilst cheetahs been on run of 5 wins. Ebersohn tidy player not sure he is bok material but very good.

Chiefs look really good. Biggest surprise is stormers. Many people's favourites but lost a lot of close games and have a massive injury list now.

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Post by Fluxy Tue 09 Apr 2013, 7:26 pm

Doubt you there mate. Ebersohn looks likes he could be a great 12

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 7:41 pm

You never know until they step up Fluxy. I really like ebersohn and his defence Is much better than last year. Weird watching him play against his twin the other week

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 09 Apr 2013, 7:59 pm

Strauss and Moore have been best two hookers.

Was hoping Jordaan would get in. A real prospect. SA look good for centres going forward. JdJ got two tries this weekend.

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:07 pm

Ebersohn isn't he the guy who is signing for Perpignan? Meant to be a pretty good player from what I've heard about him.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:10 pm

Kyle Cooper been the best hooker I've seen. Hanson also played well when he's played for Reds.

Delighted to see Serfontein and PDST in the squad. Massive talents. Sefortein still eligible for under 20's.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:15 pm

Think your over doing that Strauss has been best by miles Matt, I do think he's been very good though. He's been one of the best for def

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:16 pm

Ebersohn has done really well having moved in from 13 to 12. Is one I am considering in foreigns.
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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:22 pm

du Toit made an impact last couple of weeks. Got a bright future.

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:42 pm

Kyle cooper been excellent Steve.

Lots of posters on Sa sites saying BDP will have a battle to get in which is a high compliment.

If you named a hooker for team of s15 Strauss would be in it. Been excellent. Carried on his form from AI's.

One of the only universal picks so far this year for me. So many s15 players playing well in other positions.

Aussies have lots of wings in form who you would not have picked

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:43 pm

Du toit looks great and has been so powerful last few weeks . Ebersohn can play quite a few positions so really useful

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:50 pm

"One of the only universal picks so far this year for me. So many s15 players playing well in other positions."

That's a shock, the only nailed on pick is your player Whistle

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:51 pm

From who I've seen (mostly see games with Oz sides in) this would be my side of the season so far.

1. Ben Franks
2. Kyle Cooper
3. James Slipper
4. Brad Thorn
5. Hugh Pyle
6. George Whitelock
7. Liam Gill
8. Ben Mowen
9. Will Genia
10. Bernard Foley
11. Julian Savea
12. Christian Lealifano
13. Ben Volavola
14. Sergeal Pertersen
15. Jesse Mogg

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:52 pm

Stringer signs on for another season at Bath

http://www.therugbypaper.co.uk/latest-breaking-news/8802/peter-stringer-commits-to-bath/

Still quality mind, he was fantastic at Falcons. Well compared to Lawson anybody would tbh.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:54 pm

I'd say Mowen has been better when he played 6 and the polynesian lad from the Brumbies would be in at 8 for me. He lacks some finesse, but has had a huge impact for them.

Also would have both Ranger and TNW ahead of Volavola at 13.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:57 pm

Good team Steve.

I'd have Bekker over Pyle, Ranger over Vola. Don't think Slipper has been too good but TH options thin.

I'd love to get Piteau in but Mogg has been v good

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 09 Apr 2013, 8:59 pm

Afeaki kept Ben T out of the Chiefs side early season and looked very good at tighthead.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 09 Apr 2013, 9:01 pm

I've only seen Bekker once I think. Pyle has been good this season. Was concerned but has been playing well and resisted pressure from Neville to be dropped.

I'd rather forgotten about TNW. He goes in ahead of Volavola who has still be excellent. Not seen much of the Blues at all thus there lack of representation.

Anscombe played very well at 15 and Pitutai supposed to have been good.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Apr 2013, 9:05 pm

Blues have been great to watch, really enjoyed them this season.

I'm not a fan of Pyle if I'm honest, I think Bekker has been immense.

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 9:32 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:"One of the only universal picks so far this year for me. So many s15 players playing well in other positions."

That's a shock, the only nailed on pick is your player Whistle


Based on the fact that he has been standout and the only one near him Sinclair

Other positions have many candidates like 12 etc.

Labuschane of cheetahs is unanimous at 6 sorry forgot about him. Been best player in s15 for me

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 09 Apr 2013, 9:36 pm

Well not that universal as me and Steve don't have him as nailed on 2.

Agree he's been good though but not a standout.

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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 10:14 pm

Rumours sackey to Nottingham doing the rounds. Thoughts Geordie lads ?

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Post by Driver Tue 09 Apr 2013, 10:50 pm

Saw Notts at KP in November , Really forward orientated.

Good front 5 and had a power based back row so don't think he'll suit them.
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Post by Guest Tue 09 Apr 2013, 11:06 pm

Sackey to Newcastle that should have said sorry driver. Very strong seen it a few places.

Have to drive to Nottingham tomorrow so had Nottingham on my mind

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Post by Driver Tue 09 Apr 2013, 11:28 pm

Bit of a odd buy but with Lukey off with England 7s it makes sense to get a experienced campaigner in our back 3 with Suka Hufanga supposedly off to J League. Teams shaping up well for next season.

Golding/Haslam
Lawson
Tomas
Del Fava
McLeod
Wilson
Welch
York

Blair
New 10
Sackey
Tui'polatua
Powell
Shortland
Catterick

Still plenty of improvement needed but Deano has cash to splash.
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Post by Guest Wed 10 Apr 2013, 7:19 am

If that side was put out in ap it would get less points than welsh will get this year .

Be interesting to see how much falcons willing to spend

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 10 Apr 2013, 9:05 am

anonmattyt wrote:If that side was put out in ap it would get less points than welsh will get this year .

Be interesting to see how much falcons willing to spend

You'd be wrong.

We need more players but you know little about how we've came on this season. That team wouldn't set the world alight but it's stronger then the Falcons team that went down my quite a way.

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