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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:10 pm

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Breaking News: One point now separates the bottom three teams after London Wasps home win against Saracens.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:42 pm

[quote="LukeLovesLuka"]I thought Barnes had confirmed?

Jane, Dagg, Gear, Savea, Smith, Kahui, TNW

Any one of these players best English back. Depressing.

It's amazing luke we are way behind. Jane is out for the year and for me smith not an international he is jelly in defence.

Before he was injured Kahui was meant to be tried at 15 and 12. Think his distribution and pace would work at 12. Him and smith is a great partnership both could interchange.

Amazed smith not been played at 12 he has a sweet pass and vision.

Kahui probably my best signing as he can play anywhere. Kicks like a mule as well

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:40 am

Gents. there has been a draw in both the Heino and Amlin QF's, so I need you all to predict on extra time today please.
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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:07 am

Steve Walsh such a bad, bad ref

http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/04/3111/maa-nonu-puts-the-shoulder-into-former-team-mate-piri-weepu

Strange how Ashton is hitting some form for Sarries now, I really don't think we have the right attack coaches for England, or right player selections. Hoping Wade and May get their chance this summer!

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:15 am

They always say you don't notice a good ref. you always notice Walsh and he is a figure of controversy

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:29 am

I don't get how he is allowed to officiate, maybe it is to make all the other refs look better!

Mat - in answer to your qn about how well Savea played, for someone making their s15 debut he was brilliant. Completely different to any other no7 I've seen as he's so blooming quick. Hopefully their aren't any other Savea brothers out there as it could be tough for teams to cope with any more of them!!!

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:30 am

Such a weird story
http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/03/3094/jerry-collins-claims-physical-threat-from-gang-following-japan-arrest

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:58 am

Bit of a surprise

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2305152/Andy-Powell-switches-union-league-joining-Wigan-Sale.html

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Post by stnick88 Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:21 pm

In the paper Austin healey calls salvi the best natural 7 in the NH. Interesting call. Big battle with armitage today.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:47 pm

I read that nick. He does have a Leicester bias.

I like salvi but I think warburton, tipuric and a few others would be up there!

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:52 pm

Would probably agree in terms of natural no7's and the way he plays the game, but then you'd expect him to be having played s14. Definitely better all round no7s though in Europe - Warburton, Tipuric.

Seems as though there are completely different styles of 7s though in NH and SH, in northern much more emphasis on physicality and ball carrying, whilst SH it is more about turnovers and link play.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Apr 07, 2013 1:55 pm

reading that Afoa gave Mako a mullering yesterday. Afoa got a 9 in the rugby paper ratings.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:35 pm

Youngs has just done the worst box kick I've ever seen!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:37 pm

I get the feeling this game is going to get epic!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:42 pm

and another. awful

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:45 pm

He doesn't have any consistency - either top class, or can become pretty dross.

Have been impressed with Flood the last few weeks, his goal kicking has become brilliant this season.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:53 pm

Wonderful place kicking from Flood so far. Game nicely paused.

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Post by dammit_chris Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:00 pm

You can see why Healy said what he did about Salvi when he plays like this.

What a run by Tait there, could have been such a good player if he hadn't got so many injuries.

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Post by Guest Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:31 pm

Great game Toulon too strong

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 07, 2013 9:54 pm

Semi Finals

Heineken Cup

Harlequins vs. Gloucester
ASM Clermont Auvergne vs. Northampton Saints



Amlin Challenge Cup

Toulon vs. Bath Rugby
Toulouse vs. London Welsh


Heino semis are in neutral grounds in the country of the team drawn as home team, so will be at Twickenham and Stade de la Mosson. Not sure about Amlin ones, will look it up to see if it's home ground or home country advantage.
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Post by Guest Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:12 pm

Some tough games there. Reckon I could end up playing Quins in the AP play offs as well if things stay like they are

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun Apr 07, 2013 10:41 pm

Interesting that 3 French teams still in, but none from the Rabo!
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:56 am

We've signed Mike Blair for next season:

http://www.journallive.co.uk/newcastle-sports/north-east-rugby/newcastle-falcons/2013/04/08/61634-33133383/

Really happy with Blair, Lawson has been awful all season so hopefully offload him and keep a couple of the English lads.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:13 am

thats a great signing.

This season has shown me how important a good scrum half is.

Tomas O'Leary was superb for us before he got injured and Allinson was absolutely dreadful. Phibbs came in from Leicester and was very good and it was no surprise we started winning games once he started playing and Allinson was dropped.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:19 am

Agree Nick, a good 9 is vital. Really chuffed with Blair.

On the down side we're being strongly linked to Phil Goodman Sad

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Post by stnick88 Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:29 am

by the way the Lawson / Mayhew swap is true.

Should be done soon. Lawson isnt happy with being no. 2 behind Paice so I'm guessing Newcastle have assured him he will be first choice. Good player.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:31 am

Canny, pretty happy with that as we need a decent basics hooker.

Strange how Mayhew was never fancied up here

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Post by stnick88 Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:40 am

He hasnt had a bad game for us this season, does the basics well.
Only criticism of him is he is a bit small and doesnt carry that well. But thats being a bit fussy.
Mayhew looked good for us in his short loan spell but hard to judge someone over a short period of time. Next season we shall see.

He will be on the bench most of the time anyway as Paice is no.1

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:48 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Canny, pretty happy with that as we need a decent basics hooker.

Strange how Mayhew was never fancied up here

Lawson is without a shadow of a doubt the worst scrummaging hooker in British rugby. Even huia Edmunds scrums better.

He is dynamite around the field and arrows ok but was really glad to see him leave glaws like most people.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:49 am

Blair is a tremendous player. Top signing

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Post by dammit_chris Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:16 am

Anyone see what this was about, Cocerill saying that Botha kneed Ayerza and broke a bone? Missed it in the game.

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3822_8624811,00.html

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:18 am

Thinks its sour grapes. I think he is referring to when Bakkies ran through Ayerza.

Cockerill likes a moan after losing in Europe.

Bakkies was tremendous yesterday.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:31 am

Cockerill does my head in. never accepts losing. always has something to moan about or blame.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 10:58 am

We just need a hook with decent arrows really. Thompson is a massive scrummager, pity we couldn't mould him and Lawson

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:22 am

Lawson will be ok there and his work rate around the pitch is great.

He is tiny which does not help with his scrummaging. You will be amazed how weak he is at it.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:25 am

Can't say I have noticed that Matt.
Our scrum has been fine this season, more often than not getting on top of teams but that is probably mostly down to Halani Aulika.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 11:28 am

5ft 8" and 15st, he's pretty small.

We're turning into Newcastle Scottish!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:05 pm

Just watching games from yesterday. How bad was Robson, can't believe how far he's slipped from last season, total dross.

On the flip POC was immense in lineout & loose, world class(when he plays)

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:37 pm

Robson was poor first half but decent second half.

He has been good all season but poor the last month like all Quins. Evans is playing like he has never played rugby before.

Think lack of depth hitting them

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:40 pm

I thought Robson could get in England setup this year but he's been so bad. His line out work has struggled and seems to offer nothing in the loose.

Our 5 choices are Parling and ??

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Post by stnick88 Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:42 pm

I thought Kennedy was pretty decent for Toulon yesterday! Still dominating lineouts. put himself about in the loose as well.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:46 pm

You need to have a bit of a more stable view pooly. One or two bad games and you want people out.

Robson been immense this year. He has had a few bad games and it ties in with Quins slump. You could say the same for many Quins.

Marler, fasivalu, Evans, Easter and Robshaw who got completely outgunned physically as had happened last few games he has played. Looks knackered.

Quins have not one centre in form so keep chopping and changing. They have just hit a run of poor form after 18
Months of highs.
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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:47 pm

Would bet on Quins getting back to form soon

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:47 pm

"Robson been immense this year"

No he hasn't.

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Post by stnick88 Mon Apr 08, 2013 12:58 pm

Immense is a stretch too far.

He had a very good first 6 months of the season but has tailed off since Xmas a bit. Maybe he is fatigued or just out of form like many other Quins players.

Is JTH injured or do they just prefer Casson now?

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:15 pm

Casson picked on form I believe.

I thought Marler was good in the loose yesterday. Scrums were strangest ive seen.

One scrum Quins dominated then Munster the next.

POM and POC put up a big hand for the Lions jersey. Thought Brown was good as well.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:26 pm

Scrums were reffed terribly in that game. Great to see cole give Sheridan a working over. Did not expect that

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:28 pm

From a Quins fan:

ChequeredJersey wrote:Robson has been gash this year. As a Quins fan

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:31 pm

What was the rest of his comment pooly ?

Is he your new hobby horse for the month ? You always have one.

Like nick said he was very good and then like most Quins has dropped off a bit.

Genuinely think Quins are paying for lack of rotation.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:37 pm

How is this for irony. A quote from pooly on the other game.





"Re: Fantasy Aviva Season 1 - Homepage
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He talks utter rubbish on regular basis tbh, he bigs his players up like nobody else"




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Post by Guest Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:38 pm

Bakkies was tremendous yesterday Steve. Still such a great 4. So athletic and pure brute to play against

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