Rumour Mill - Mayweather to fight at Cowboys Stadium?

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I can't-in fact I WON'T-vouch for the accuracy of this statement, because the site it's from is pretty bloody awful, although behind their terrible writing there's usually a nugget of truth. Anyway, link's here:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2011/05/mayweather-to-fight-in-cowboys-stadium-by-end-of-summer-says-roger/#more-64787

Long story sport is that Roger Mayweather's apparently hinting at Floyd Jr fighting at the Dallas Cowboys stadium in late summer 2010. If true, the implications are obvious - pack the stadium more than a certain Filipino did, and restate your dominance as the so-called 'cash cow' of boxing.

Of course, uncle Roger could quite easily be saying something just to keep Floyd Jr's name in the media, but the other implication from this is that if Mayweather does fight at the Cowboys Stadium it's a clear precursor to setting the stage for a rubber match of negotiations, hopefully successful, between the Mayweathers and the representatives of the Filipino chap. I forget his name.

Wait and see, eh?

Steven_89 wrote:I actually agree with D4 that it will take someone with a similar style to Khan who can beat Floyd. But Khan and/or Pac are not the ones who can do it. Neither possess enough skill to beat a master boxer like Floyd.
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Pacquiao wouldnt rely on a daft shoulder roll that B level fighters cant expose, he would rough him up, suffocate him and outwork him, that doesnt require solely skill, Pacquiao would want it more, of course he'd tag Mayweather at more than 1 point, with his hands being 2 times faster, also his feet he has that attribute

And then he wakes up.

If Clottey can hit Pac with alarming regularity, I fear for him when Floyd peppers his head with stinging combos. Pac has never been hard to hit. Floyd is the most accurate puncher who has broken all compustat records. Amazing fighter. I can see a late stoppage or a very viscious beating dished out by Floyd.

For me its a relatively easy night's work for floyd. A total missmatch.

'2 times faster'? Scientifically proven, of course. Right?
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I've watched all their fights, Pacquiao is 2 times faster than him, as is Khan, he is a single puncher is speed is really overrated (Mayweather), Pacquiao is by a country mile the fastest in the world.

Steven_89 wrote:If Khan is such a force at welter why isn't lover boy fighting him ? oops ! I forgot. They're FRIENDS.

Aww ! Isn't that sweet ?
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You seem a bit wound up, isnt it like about a month since both have boxed? i doubt there gonna announce a fight so soon, Ortiz will absolutely wipe the floor with him if they do fight (Khan v Ortiz)

I'm not in the slightest wound up, Steven.

It is simply that Khan, a lightwelter, is nowhere near being the man to upset Floyd at welter, and if they DID meet, we all know that D4 would be the first to shout from the rooftops that Mayweather is taking an easy option.

azania wrote:

Steven_89 wrote:I actually agree with D4 that it will take someone with a similar style to Khan who can beat Floyd. But Khan and/or Pac are not the ones who can do it. Neither possess enough skill to beat a master boxer like Floyd.
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Pacquiao wouldnt rely on a daft shoulder roll that B level fighters cant expose, he would rough him up, suffocate him and outwork him, that doesnt require solely skill, Pacquiao would want it more, of course he'd tag Mayweather at more than 1 point, with his hands being 2 times faster, also his feet he has that attribute

And then he wakes up.

If Clottey can hit Pac with alarming regularity, I fear for him when Floyd peppers his head with stinging combos. Pac has never been hard to hit. Floyd is the most accurate puncher who has broken all compustat records. Amazing fighter. I can see a late stoppage or a very viscious beating dished out by Floyd.

For me its a relatively easy night's work for floyd. A total missmatch.

Clottey hit Pacquiao about as many times as Mosley hit Mayweather, that is quite alarming

HumanWindmill wrote:

Steven_89 wrote:If Khan is such a force at welter why isn't lover boy fighting him ? oops ! I forgot. They're FRIENDS.

Aww ! Isn't that sweet ?
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You seem a bit wound up, isnt it like about a month since both have boxed? i doubt there gonna announce a fight so soon, Ortiz will absolutely wipe the floor with him if they do fight (Khan v Ortiz)

I'm not in the slightest wound up, Steven.

It is simply that Khan, a lightwelter, is nowhere near being the man to upset Floyd at welter, and if they DID meet, we all know that D4 would be the first to shout from the rooftops that Mayweather is taking an easy option.

Never knew you could see into the future Windy or that you are a mind reader. Any other supernatural powers you possess?

D4thincarnation wrote:

azania wrote:

Steven_89 wrote:I actually agree with D4 that it will take someone with a similar style to Khan who can beat Floyd. But Khan and/or Pac are not the ones who can do it. Neither possess enough skill to beat a master boxer like Floyd.
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Pacquiao wouldnt rely on a daft shoulder roll that B level fighters cant expose, he would rough him up, suffocate him and outwork him, that doesnt require solely skill, Pacquiao would want it more, of course he'd tag Mayweather at more than 1 point, with his hands being 2 times faster, also his feet he has that attribute

And then he wakes up.

If Clottey can hit Pac with alarming regularity, I fear for him when Floyd peppers his head with stinging combos. Pac has never been hard to hit. Floyd is the most accurate puncher who has broken all compustat records. Amazing fighter. I can see a late stoppage or a very viscious beating dished out by Floyd.

For me its a relatively easy night's work for floyd. A total missmatch.

Clottey hit Pacquiao about as many times as Mosley hit Mayweather, that is quite alarming

That's not exactly true is it D4. Have you got the punch stats?

After 4 pages of debate it has arrived at the point where the two best fighters in the world are overrated B level fighters and Marquez is possibly a C lister.

Quite the acheivement.

D4thincarnation wrote:

HumanWindmill wrote:

Steven_89 wrote:If Khan is such a force at welter why isn't lover boy fighting him ? oops ! I forgot. They're FRIENDS.

Aww ! Isn't that sweet ?
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You seem a bit wound up, isnt it like about a month since both have boxed? i doubt there gonna announce a fight so soon, Ortiz will absolutely wipe the floor with him if they do fight (Khan v Ortiz)

I'm not in the slightest wound up, Steven.

It is simply that Khan, a lightwelter, is nowhere near being the man to upset Floyd at welter, and if they DID meet, we all know that D4 would be the first to shout from the rooftops that Mayweather is taking an easy option.

Never knew you could see into the future Windy or that you are a mind reader. Any other supernatural powers you possess?

Just the common sense to recognize what has happened before, D4.

For example, your endless and tiresome rants about Mosley's being too old to fight Mayweather have been followed, a year or so later, by your waxing lyrical about what a live opponent Mosley represents to Pacquiao. Then there are the countless, equally tedious, distortions of the truth to support your little fairy tale and which - correct me if I'm wrong - have earned you a formal warning as to your behaviour here, all of which persuade me that there are grounds to believe that you would trash Mayweather if he were to fight Khan in September.

D4thincarnation wrote:

azania wrote:

Steven_89 wrote:I actually agree with D4 that it will take someone with a similar style to Khan who can beat Floyd. But Khan and/or Pac are not the ones who can do it. Neither possess enough skill to beat a master boxer like Floyd.
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Pacquiao wouldnt rely on a daft shoulder roll that B level fighters cant expose, he would rough him up, suffocate him and outwork him, that doesnt require solely skill, Pacquiao would want it more, of course he'd tag Mayweather at more than 1 point, with his hands being 2 times faster, also his feet he has that attribute

And then he wakes up.

If Clottey can hit Pac with alarming regularity, I fear for him when Floyd peppers his head with stinging combos. Pac has never been hard to hit. Floyd is the most accurate puncher who has broken all compustat records. Amazing fighter. I can see a late stoppage or a very viscious beating dished out by Floyd.

For me its a relatively easy night's work for floyd. A total missmatch.

Clottey hit Pacquiao about as many times as Mosley hit Mayweather, that is quite alarming

How many were thrown?

Mosley landed 92 punches on Mayweather
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao

HumanWindmill wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

HumanWindmill wrote:

Steven_89 wrote:If Khan is such a force at welter why isn't lover boy fighting him ? oops ! I forgot. They're FRIENDS.

Aww ! Isn't that sweet ?
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You seem a bit wound up, isnt it like about a month since both have boxed? i doubt there gonna announce a fight so soon, Ortiz will absolutely wipe the floor with him if they do fight (Khan v Ortiz)

I'm not in the slightest wound up, Steven.

It is simply that Khan, a lightwelter, is nowhere near being the man to upset Floyd at welter, and if they DID meet, we all know that D4 would be the first to shout from the rooftops that Mayweather is taking an easy option.

Never knew you could see into the future Windy or that you are a mind reader. Any other supernatural powers you possess?

Just the common sense to recognize what has happened before, D4.

For example, your endless and tiresome rants about Mosley's being too old to fight Mayweather have been followed, a year or so later, by your waxing lyrical about what a live opponent Mosley represents to Pacquiao. Then there are the countless, equally tedious, distortions of the truth to support your little fairy tale and which - correct me if I'm wrong - have earned you a formal warning as to your behaviour here, all of which persuade me that there are grounds to believe that you would trash Mayweather if he were to fight Khan in September.

You are wrong.

D4thincarnation wrote:Mosley landed 92 punches on Mayweather
Clottey landed 108 punches on Pacquiao

How many were thrown?

He's not though is he D4. He's absolutely spot on.

Always good to see the facts back up you lying D4 isn't it

Mosley landed 92 of 452 punches against Mayweather at a connect of 20% whereas Clottey landed 108 of 399 punches at a connect of 27% but no doubt you'll twist these numbers in some way.

The Mighty Atom wrote:Always good to see the facts back up you lying D4 isn't it

Mosley landed 92 of 452 punches against Mayweather at a connect of 20% whereas Clottey landed 108 of 399 punches at a connect of 27% but no doubt you'll twist these numbers in some way.

Yes that just over 1 punch a round extra for Mosley, like I same it is about the same.

And then he wakes up.

If Clottey can hit Pac with alarming regularity, I fear for him when Floyd peppers his head with stinging combos. Pac has never been hard to hit. Floyd is the most accurate puncher who has broken all compustat records. Amazing fighter. I can see a late stoppage or a very viscious beating dished out by Floyd.

For me its a relatively easy night's work for floyd. A total missmatch.
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A mismatch, i watched that fight live, he won every second of every round, against a fighter who took a great fighter in Cotto to hell and back, i agree with what Watt and Darke said on the commentary that Pacquiao's energy and speed would cause him problems, for me though the fact you say the fight is relatively easy really is the brown stuff!. Pacquiao would be the first guy he's fought who's faster than him, just as good as him, hungrier than him and wanting the fight more than him. Pacquiao TKO 10TH ROUND

Not really though is it, it's a difference of 16 punches which equates to Clottey landing about 18% more than Mosley did, a significant difference

D4thincarnation wrote:

The Mighty Atom wrote:Always good to see the facts back up you lying D4 isn't it

Mosley landed 92 of 452 punches against Mayweather at a connect of 20% whereas Clottey landed 108 of 399 punches at a connect of 27% but no doubt you'll twist these numbers in some way.

Yes that just over 1 punch a round extra for Mosley, like I same it is about the same.

It's less connected for more thrown. So you're wrong. Again.

BALTIMORA wrote:He's not though is he D4. He's absolutely spot on.

I believe that D4 is referring to the ' formal warning part ' BALTI. The rest cannot be disputed, since there is copious evidence.

Regardless, D4, provision will be made for fair and open discussion about the Manny / Floyd issue because that is what the majority of members wish to have.

16 punches, 1.25 punches a round. Not a lot in my book or in the book of anyone that studies the punch stats.

Has to be taken in context of the whole fight where it becomes a significant different although doesn't change the fact that you alluded to Mosley landing more on Mayweather than Clottey did on Pacquiao which has been proved not to be the case.

HumanWindmill wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:He's not though is he D4. He's absolutely spot on.

I believe that D4 is referring to the ' formal warning part ' BALTI. The rest cannot be disputed, since there is copious evidence.

Regardless, D4, provision will be made for fair and open discussion about the Manny / Floyd issue because that is what the majority of members wish to have.

Where is this copious evdience that I'll will trash Khan if he signs to fight Mayweather in September?

Don't tell me you seen it in one of your trips to the future.

The Mighty Atom wrote:Has to be taken in context of the whole fight where it becomes a significant different although doesn't change the fact that you alluded to Mosley landing more on Mayweather than Clottey did on Pacquiao which has been proved not to be the case.

I never said more now did I.

I said it was about the same.

Are you quibbling over a miniscule 1.25 punches a round now?

Has to be taken in context of the whole fight where it becomes a significant different although doesn't change the fact that you alluded to Mosley landing more on Mayweather than Clottey did on Pacquiao which has been proved not to be the case.
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Does it matter how many shots Clottey landed though really, he was absolutely battered and shipped about 800 punches, the person who's had 8 cans of stella who said that Pacquiao would be beaten easily by Mayweather was freddie starr funny though

Steven_89 wrote:Has to be taken in context of the whole fight where it becomes a significant different although doesn't change the fact that you alluded to Mosley landing more on Mayweather than Clottey did on Pacquiao which has been proved not to be the case.
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Does it matter how many shots Clottey landed though really, he was absolutely battered and shipped about 800 punches, the person who's had 8 cans of stella who said that Pacquiao would be beaten easily by Mayweather was freddie starr funny though

246 is hardly 800 now is it Southy?

As for 1.25 punches a round, if they were landing at significant rates a round then it wouldn't matter as much but seeing at they landed less than a round on average it becomes a significant difference.

D4thincarnation wrote:

The Mighty Atom wrote:Always good to see the facts back up you lying D4 isn't it

Mosley landed 92 of 452 punches against Mayweather at a connect of 20% whereas Clottey landed 108 of 399 punches at a connect of 27% but no doubt you'll twist these numbers in some way.

Yes that just over 1 punch a round extra for Mosley, like I same it is about the same.

Stop trying to twist clear figures. Clottey landed 20% more punches than Mosley did. He threw about 13% less.

True, you can't, but as someone else on here said a while ago; you can roll it in glitter. You talk utter tosh 99% of the time, that's all there is to it.
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hhahahahahaha, do i now? because you said so, you could write on the back of a matchbox what you know about boxing, if someone disagrees with you, you know for a fact you bubble over behind the PC like a wallpaper steamer

D4thincarnation wrote:

HumanWindmill wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:He's not though is he D4. He's absolutely spot on.

I believe that D4 is referring to the ' formal warning part ' BALTI. The rest cannot be disputed, since there is copious evidence.

Regardless, D4, provision will be made for fair and open discussion about the Manny / Floyd issue because that is what the majority of members wish to have.

Where is this copious evdience that I'll will trash Khan if he signs to fight Mayweather in September?

Don't tell me you seen it in one of your trips to the future.

We both know exactly the context of my previous two posts, D4.

I am trying to keep the peace for the sake of EVERYBODY and I am not taking sides, here. You are intelligent enough to know that other members will be inflamed by your dismissal of Ortiz as a viable opponent for Mayweather and by your advocacy of Khan in his stead, when Khan has not yet fought a rated fighter at welter. You know perfectly well that this will stir the pot and I am trying to prevent the lid from blowing off.

A little cooperation would be appreciated.

HumanWindmill wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

HumanWindmill wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:He's not though is he D4. He's absolutely spot on.

I believe that D4 is referring to the ' formal warning part ' BALTI. The rest cannot be disputed, since there is copious evidence.

Regardless, D4, provision will be made for fair and open discussion about the Manny / Floyd issue because that is what the majority of members wish to have.

Where is this copious evdience that I'll will trash Khan if he signs to fight Mayweather in September?

Don't tell me you seen it in one of your trips to the future.

We both know exactly the context of my previous two posts, D4.

I am trying to keep the peace for the sake of EVERYBODY and I am not taking sides, here. You are intelligent enough to know that other members will be inflamed by your dismissal of Ortiz as a viable opponent for Mayweather and by your advocacy of Khan in his stead, when Khan has not yet fought a rated fighter at welter. You know perfectly well that this will stir the pot and I am trying to prevent the lid from blowing off.

A little cooperation would be appreciated.

Are you, Atom has said he think Floyd will beat Ortiz too, for several of the same reasons, some poster think Floyd will KO him.

But If I say it there is something wrong with that?

No other poster has taken objection to my view on Ortiz, only you.

Steven_89 wrote:And then he wakes up.

If Clottey can hit Pac with alarming regularity, I fear for him when Floyd peppers his head with stinging combos. Pac has never been hard to hit. Floyd is the most accurate puncher who has broken all compustat records. Amazing fighter. I can see a late stoppage or a very viscious beating dished out by Floyd.

For me its a relatively easy night's work for floyd. A total missmatch.
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A mismatch, i watched that fight live, he won every second of every round, against a fighter who took a great fighter in Cotto to hell and back, i agree with what Watt and Darke said on the commentary that Pacquiao's energy and speed would cause him problems, for me though the fact you say the fight is relatively easy really is the brown stuff!. Pacquiao would be the first guy he's fought who's faster than him, just as good as him, hungrier than him and wanting the fight more than him. Pacquiao TKO 10TH ROUND

Zab Judah is faster than Floyd yet Floyd schooled him. It would take Floyd 4 rounds to figure Pac out and then run away with it. Just as good as him? You are joking right?

@Humanwindmill
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Yeah i mean keeping the peace is telling someone they need help, and telling them they share there knowledge of the roach camp, mmmm sounds like your blowing someone's tyres up to me, but there you go eh! :sleep:

D4 I always think Mayweather beats Pacquiao via comfortable decision doesn't mean I don't think it's a viable fight, tend to be of the view that Mayweather knocks Khan out before the 5th

Steven_89 wrote:@Humanwindmill
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Yeah i mean keeping the peace is telling someone they need help, and telling them they share there knowledge of the roach camp, mmmm sounds like your blowing someone's tyres up to me, but there you go eh! :sleep:

D4 and I have a history of banter, Steven. Perhaps you don't realise that. He knows I mean no offence and I never take offence when he takes the mickey out of me, either.

Zab Judah is faster than Floyd yet Floyd schooled him. It would take Floyd 4 rounds to figure Pac out and then run away with it. Just as good as him? You are joking right?
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Who's ranked number 1 in the world by the genuine boxing experts, ring mag, etc, isnt it Pacquiao, ? i thought so. Comfort Zone wins are recognised by the people in the know, Pacquiao has been beating fighters he's avoided whilst he's sat on his ar*e. Who is number 1 im sure its Manny? i really am.

D4, you are advocating Khan taking on Floyd in the full knowledge that Khan is not a welterweight. Has never fought at welterweight and is unlikely to fight at welterweight for another year. You to advocate him, who is untested at WW over the WBC Champ is either silly in the highest order or a direct attempt at wumming.

BALTIMORA wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

The Mighty Atom wrote:Always good to see the facts back up you lying D4 isn't it

Mosley landed 92 of 452 punches against Mayweather at a connect of 20% whereas Clottey landed 108 of 399 punches at a connect of 27% but no doubt you'll twist these numbers in some way.

Yes that just over 1 punch a round extra for Mosley, like I same it is about the same.

Stop trying to twist clear figures. Clottey landed 20% more punches than Mosley did. He threw about 13% less.

Yes Pacquiao throwing punches stopped Clottey from throwing.

Punches that land that are important, not the ones that miss or the ones that have not been thrown.

And you know as well as I know, well you should know that 16 extra punches in a 12 round fight is miniscule.

D4thincarnation wrote:

HumanWindmill wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

HumanWindmill wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:He's not though is he D4. He's absolutely spot on.

I believe that D4 is referring to the ' formal warning part ' BALTI. The rest cannot be disputed, since there is copious evidence.

Regardless, D4, provision will be made for fair and open discussion about the Manny / Floyd issue because that is what the majority of members wish to have.

Where is this copious evdience that I'll will trash Khan if he signs to fight Mayweather in September?

Don't tell me you seen it in one of your trips to the future.

We both know exactly the context of my previous two posts, D4.

I am trying to keep the peace for the sake of EVERYBODY and I am not taking sides, here. You are intelligent enough to know that other members will be inflamed by your dismissal of Ortiz as a viable opponent for Mayweather and by your advocacy of Khan in his stead, when Khan has not yet fought a rated fighter at welter. You know perfectly well that this will stir the pot and I am trying to prevent the lid from blowing off.

A little cooperation would be appreciated.

Are you, Atom has said he think Floyd will beat Ortiz too, for several of the same reasons, some poster think Floyd will KO him.

But If I say it there is something wrong with that?

No other poster has taken objection to my view on Ortiz, only you.

Yes, I am.

I believe that Floyd will beat Ortiz, also, just as you believe Manny will beat Mosley. My point is that it's not a bad fight for a warm up and it is a better match up, at this stage, than Mayweather v Khan.

Steven_89 wrote:
Zab Judah is faster than Floyd yet Floyd schooled him. It would take Floyd 4 rounds to figure Pac out and then run away with it. Just as good as him? You are joking right?
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Who's ranked number 1 in the world by the genuine boxing experts, ring mag, etc, isnt it Pacquiao, ? i thought so. Comfort Zone wins are recognised by the people in the know, Pacquiao has been beating fighters he's avoided whilst he's sat on his ar*e. Who is number 1 im sure its Manny? i really am.

Of course Pac is #1 right now. That's because Floyd is inactive. All Pac's wins above 130 have been comfort zone wins. The only guy he fought at their natural weight was Hatton who as you know had already been flattened by Floyd.

D4thincarnation wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

D4thincarnation wrote:

The Mighty Atom wrote:Always good to see the facts back up you lying D4 isn't it

Mosley landed 92 of 452 punches against Mayweather at a connect of 20% whereas Clottey landed 108 of 399 punches at a connect of 27% but no doubt you'll twist these numbers in some way.

Yes that just over 1 punch a round extra for Mosley, like I same it is about the same.

Stop trying to twist clear figures. Clottey landed 20% more punches than Mosley did. He threw about 13% less.

Yes Pacquiao throwing punches stopped Clottey from throwing.

Punches that land that are important, not the ones that miss or the ones that have not been thrown.

And you know as well as I know, well you should know that 16 extra punches in a 12 round fight is miniscule.

Apparently SSM threw less punches against Floyd that against any other opponent. Any ideas why?

Yes, I am.

I believe that Floyd will beat Ortiz, also, just as you believe Manny will beat Mosley. My point is that it's not a bad fight for a warm up and it is a better match up, at this stage, than Mayweather v Khan.
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Ortiz would also do better and provide a more entertaining fight than

Mayweather v Baldomir (couldnt carry Victor's gym bag)
Mayweather v Judah
Mayweather v Gatti
Mayweather v Marquez (did he win a second? was a disgrace of a performance), Mayweather was brilliant however

Steven_89 wrote:
Zab Judah is faster than Floyd yet Floyd schooled him. It would take Floyd 4 rounds to figure Pac out and then run away with it. Just as good as him? You are joking right?
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Who's ranked number 1 in the world by the genuine boxing experts, ring mag, etc, isnt it Pacquiao, ? i thought so. Comfort Zone wins are recognised by the people in the know, Pacquiao has been beating fighters he's avoided whilst he's sat on his ar*e. Who is number 1 im sure its Manny? i really am.

And Mayweather is number 2. Marquez is top 5. Yet you conveniently dont seem to rate them despite the opinion of "genuine boxing experts".

D4thincarnation wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

Stop trying to twist clear figures. Clottey landed 20% more punches than Mosley did. He threw about 13% less.

Yes Pacquiao throwing punches stopped Clottey from throwing.

Punches that land that are important, not the ones that miss or the ones that have not been thrown.

And you know as well as I know, well you should know that 16 extra punches in a 12 round fight is miniscule.

In clear English? 16 extra punches isn't the whole story though, and you know that. Clottey threw less and landed more on Pacquiao than Mosley did on Mayweather. This, while Pacquiao was throwing something like a thousand punches too. Pretty good indication that Pacquiao isn't exactly Mr evasive.

Gents,

We've had some good clean debate on this thread can we try and keep it that way? I'm disappointed to see the personal digs coming in.

If the personal insults and abuse towards other posters continues we will start to hand out temporary bans.

We want good, reasoned debate on the site, not petty squabbles.

Lets continue the debate but keep it civil.

If you have any questions or want to discuss this further, drop myself or one of the other Administrators a PM.

DT.

And Mayweather is number 2. Marquez is top 5. Yet you conveniently dont seem to rate them despite the opinion of "genuine boxing experts".
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I dont rate Mayweather lol? get me up where i said that oh i forgot your jumping to conclusions big time, i think he's a quality fighter who insists on living in a comfort zone and fighting people he knows cant beat him or have little chance, i think he is brilliant as is Manny, but i think Pacquiao wants the fight more, that Mayweather is genuinely rattled/scared by him and would lose. Marquez? no i stick by what i said, greats dont lose to Norwood, John, get absolutely taken apart and not even compete when moving up weight divisons, ie Pacquiao, Mayweather himself

If you have any questions or want to discuss this further, drop myself or one of the other Administrators a PM.

DT.
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Funny only you say that, i thought the debate was ok
Cheers

SM

Steven_89 wrote:
And Mayweather is number 2. Marquez is top 5. Yet you conveniently dont seem to rate them despite the opinion of "genuine boxing experts".
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I dont rate Mayweather lol? get me up where i said that oh i forgot your jumping to conclusions big time, i think he's a quality fighter who insists on living in a comfort zone and fighting people he knows cant beat him or have little chance, i think he is brilliant as is Manny, but i think Pacquiao wants the fight more, that Mayweather is genuinely rattled/scared by him and would lose. Marquez? no i stick by what i said, greats dont lose to Norwood, John, get absolutely taken apart and not even compete when moving up weight divisons, ie Pacquiao, Mayweather himself

Of course he is in his comfort zone. He knows he can beat every man at his weight. He does after all have a ZERO on his record. Very comfortable if you ask me.

Steven_89 wrote:
And Mayweather is number 2. Marquez is top 5. Yet you conveniently dont seem to rate them despite the opinion of "genuine boxing experts".
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I dont rate Mayweather lol? get me up where i said that oh i forgot your jumping to conclusions big time, i think he's a quality fighter who insists on living in a comfort zone and fighting people he knows cant beat him or have little chance, i think he is brilliant as is Manny, but i think Pacquiao wants the fight more, that Mayweather is genuinely rattled/scared by him and would lose. Marquez? no i stick by what i said, greats dont lose to Norwood, John, get absolutely taken apart and not even compete when moving up weight divisons, ie Pacquiao, Mayweather himself

Perhaps Mayweather fights people he knows can't beat him because he knows he's that much better than everyone else...

Norwood and John are better than Torrecampo and Singsurat are they not?

azania wrote:D4, you are advocating Khan taking on Floyd in the full knowledge that Khan is not a welterweight. Has never fought at welterweight and is unlikely to fight at welterweight for another year. You to advocate him, who is untested at WW over the WBC Champ is either silly in the highest order or a direct attempt at wumming.

Khan has called out Mayweather a few times now, he said want he beats Bradly Mayweather is next. I have stated for some time. Mayweather vs Khan will be a close fight but by 2012 the balance will shift towards Khan and if he fights him then I will have Khan favourite to beat Mayweather.

Khan is a big light welter, and will move up to welter, light-middle maybe even middle.

Khan is more suited to beating Mayweather than Ortiz, a point that you agree with me on, so are you on the wum as well.

Steven_89 wrote:If you have any questions or want to discuss this further, drop myself or one of the other Administrators a PM.

DT.
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Funny only you say that, i thought the debate was ok
Cheers

SM

Are you forgetting about the posts that you have had removed this evening?

Not to mention the fact you have repeatedly ignored the warning about accusing fellow members of duplicate accounts.

Now settle yourself and continue with the friendly debate.