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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

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Breaking News: Leicester Tigers secure top spot and a home semi-final with their first bonus point win of the league season against Bath at The Rec.

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2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 - Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish






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2 Homepage - Page 18 7Harlequins21150 6 550 499 +51 60 50 3 5 68
3 Homepage - Page 18 2Gloucester21140 7 546 488 +58 63 50 4 5 65
4 Homepage - Page 18 8Newcastle Falcons21131 7 530 485 +45 56 45 1 7 62
5 Homepage - Page 18 12Sale Sharks21 12 0 9 536 508 +28 58 52 2 9 59
6 Homepage - Page 18 5London Irish2111 0 10 532 517 +15 57 52 3 9 56
7 Homepage - Page 18 9Northampton Saints21111 9 526 511 +15 55 53 2 8 56
8 Homepage - Page 18 50London Welsh21 9 3 9 495 484 +11 53 48 0 9 51
9 Homepage - Page 18 1Bath Rugby2190 12 487 519 -32 46 56 0 8 44
10 Homepage - Page 18 11Saracens2151 15 437 528 -91 39 57 0 729
11 Homepage - Page 18 57Worcester Warriors2131 17 452 516 -64 39 57 1 11 26
12 Homepage - Page 18 6London Wasps 2130 18 419 537 -118 37 60 0 13 25






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 04 May 2013, 3:31 pm

"just look at how Giteau has changed his game over there for Toulon, he barrels through tackles and never used to do that when in Oz."

Not sure about that, Alex Goode walked straight through him last week and he's not exactly a big lad

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 04 May 2013, 3:39 pm

Have a watch of last weeks game again if you recorded it, commentators pick up on it a lot, he carries a lot more, barely kicks. Not saying he's a huge player, or his game is built around defence, but he's become a v good carrier.

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Post by Guest Sat 04 May 2013, 3:41 pm

They picked it up on the rugby club he plays more
Direct and trucks it up a lot for hard yards.

He has been great this season

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 04 May 2013, 3:43 pm

Not convinced with that, he's still a small lad. Decent this season though

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Sat 04 May 2013, 4:49 pm

If any vacancies come up can you let me know fellas, keen to get back involved

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Post by Fluxy Sat 04 May 2013, 5:32 pm

Spaces on the other game mate, someone like yourself would be brilliant on there.

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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 10:21 am

Ap team of season

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/may/03/premiership-team-of-season

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 05 May 2013, 11:00 am

anonmattyt wrote:Ap team of season

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/may/03/premiership-team-of-season

I think that's just the journalist's team Matt, not the official team

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 05 May 2013, 11:03 am

Pretty good team that - Tomkins certainly getting more and more recognition, really underrated player.

Wasps had Wade, Launchbury, Daly and Vunipola nominated for young player of the season - expect all 4 to go to Argentina, which is shaping up to be a good tour now!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 05 May 2013, 11:05 am

I just don't see it in Tomkins, think he's gash personally

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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 11:19 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:
anonmattyt wrote:Ap team of season

http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2013/may/03/premiership-team-of-season

I think that's just the journalist's team Matt, not the official team

Yea it is a journo one papers full of them. Interesting read. Tomkins improved massively. Not been one clear best 13 this year. Pisi form nose dived after first few months

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 05 May 2013, 11:49 am

Trouble with Tomkins is that he's a player that sets up other people, as opposed to taking the glory himself - but a lot of that down to not being the quickest. Very good defender too, seen Sarries play nearly each time they've played at home in the new stadium and he's impressed me each game.

I'd have had Masi as the no12 I think, but then he seems to play 2-3 games and then get injured for quite a bit - when he's in our midfield Wasps look a different team altogether.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 05 May 2013, 8:24 pm

Results are done.

Final table looks like this (I will update the proper one later!)…

Tigers 79
Quins 73
Falcons 67
Gloucester 65
Sale 64
Irish 57
Saints 56
Welsh 52
Bath 44
Saracens 33
Worcester 30
Wasps 26


Commiserations to Fluxy who put up a valiant effort to keep things in the balance until the final round. Congrats to Luke, Steve, Driver and Mat, so it's Tigers vs. Gloucester and Quins vs. Falcons next week.

Well played everyone. Can we try if at all possible to have a full turnout for predos next week as it's the business end of things and only fair on those who have got their teams into the play offs.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 05 May 2013, 8:31 pm

That's a shame. When I saw Nick's game was close, pretty much was a given I was down. Oh well time for rebuilding and a full preseason!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 05 May 2013, 8:35 pm

Once we know who is coming up from the Championship in real life I'll work out with you about squads Flux.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 05 May 2013, 8:36 pm

Can't wait. My first home semi I think.

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Post by Fluxy Sun 05 May 2013, 8:38 pm

No problems. Not until the 29th the final result isn't it?

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 05 May 2013, 8:41 pm

Not sure, will check mate.

Steve, you've done cracking to get that mate, I had you down as getting an away one about 6 weeks ago, thought it would be Tigers and Gloucester as the top 2.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 05 May 2013, 8:45 pm

Managed to hold off Matt's final charge thankfully. Heck of an ask to win a semi away from home!

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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 10:39 pm

Too true Steve decided I wanted 3rd heino so played weakened side vs Newcastle.

I will field weak side vs Leicester also. Wish I could field strong side but when done before been marked down heavy as apparently can't win heino and league. so apologies to Steve or driver as Leicester will be In final without a tough game.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 05 May 2013, 10:43 pm

You can win both. Look at ASM and Toulon. Top 2 in the Top 14 and in the Heino final.
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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 10:55 pm

I agree Pete but been in that position twice and been marked down so want the 3 rd heino. If I can win that I will target league next year. Tough balance and I am conscious I will hinder Steve and driver and also did it to SJE this week by playing a weakened side.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 05 May 2013, 11:02 pm

Shall we just shake hands on a 30-0 now matt...?

Unlucky Fluxy - deals you've done in recent weeks could see you on's. stronger position next year b

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 05 May 2013, 11:03 pm

League is the biggy, so tough to win

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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 11:08 pm

Luke it will be near that depending on who you pick.
Heino bigger for
Me so going for it. Hoping my big game experience wins it.

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Post by Fluxy Sun 05 May 2013, 11:12 pm

It is a shame, but hopefully I can continue to build from here.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 05 May 2013, 11:13 pm

League is much tougher as no easy games, can pretty much get to semis of Heino without putting full side out if lucky.

League is proof of best team/manager through season, Luke has done really well as has Steve.

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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 11:25 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:League is much tougher as no easy games, can pretty much get to semis of Heino without putting full side out if lucky.

League is proof of best team/manager through season, Luke has done really well as has Steve.

Black is white etc. heaslip is poor, Robson is poor, Dagg is poor , Genia not same since injury. Hari finished ferris finished goosen gone gray poor Jj penalties galore carter off form. Jdj too small Kahui finished Donald worst ab, Alberts poor this s15 despite not playing. Wood awful. Mas finished salvi not int class Sharples and may open door. Scott no good Barnes anonymous.
Please stop me pooly but thought I would sum up your efforts
So people could enjoy them in a jive bunny style mega mix of ludicrous comments.

Sure I missed a few but these all made me laugh.




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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 11:26 pm

anonmattyt wrote:
Sgt_Pooly wrote:League is much tougher as no easy games, can pretty much get to semis of Heino without putting full side out if lucky.

League is proof of best team/manager through season, Luke has done really well as has Steve.

Black is white etc. heaslip is poor, Robson is poor, Dagg is poor , Genia not same since injury. Hari finished ferris finished goosen gone gray poor Jj penalties galore carter off form. Jdj too small Kahui finished Donald worst ab, Alberts poor this s15 despite not playing. Wood awful. Mas finished salvi not int class Sharples and may open door. Scott no good Barnes anonymous.
Please stop me pooly but thought I would sum up your efforts
So people could enjoy them in a jive bunny style mega mix of ludicrous comments.

Sure I missed a few but these all made me laugh.
Lucky top 4 with all those faults !




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Post by Guest Sun 05 May 2013, 11:31 pm

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,3824_8692914,00.html

Wow he has been a great player this season and was a potential foreign

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 05 May 2013, 11:38 pm

1, Always said I rated Robson, think I've said once he was raw/poor decision making which at 20 is no shock.

2, I've never said Dagg is poor, he's not been great this season but prob best FB about

3, Carter off form? No idea

4, JJ big unit and has improved but gives away pens

5, Said Genia may lack acceleration after knee injury, playing well

6, Wood not Int class, stand by that

7, Sharples poor defensively, same with JSD & May. Kahui has major issues with injury as does Ferris.

8, Heaslip is poor imo, not a top 8 anyway...my opinion, Donald worst all AB, terrible player. I think JdJ is too small to make a top Int centre. Hari on slide, not near Int scene and hit & miss in T14.

Stand by all of that.

You've stretched the truth as normal, somebody isn't happy at not winning the league again Wink

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 05 May 2013, 11:44 pm

Few more....

9, Salvi isn't Int class...he's not an Int. Mas comment was last season, he was poor...he's been good this year and I've stated so.

I've always stated Carter is best about, rate Dagg very highly. Love Johnny May's attacking, Robson is a future Int.

You just seem to take offence to observations, nobody dare knock Matts players!!! Lol

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 06 May 2013, 9:53 am

Mat I hope you do not mind but I am going to cut and paste the following into my tactics on HC final day.

"heaslip is poor, Robson is poor, Dagg is poor , Genia not same since injury. Hari finished ferris finished goosen gone gray poor Jj penalties galore carter off form. Jdj too small Kahui finished Donald worst ab, Alberts poor this s15 despite not playing. Wood awful. Mas finished salvi not int class Sharples and may open door. Scott no good Barnes anonymous"

Was thinking you might be tempted to go for a third straight HC Final, you beat me a few years back in the final so will certainly be out for revenge and trying to get the same chefs that SA used for NZ before the 1995 WC Final!

Got to see if I can keep Saints undefeated run in the HC going this year - Falcons (twice), Leinster and Clermont...next up Gloucester ;-)


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Post by dammit_chris Mon 06 May 2013, 11:45 am

Pete - how are transfers working at the end of this season? Is it a case of being able to get as many as you can with the budget you have or are there more restrictions than that?

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Post by prop_lyd Mon 06 May 2013, 12:54 pm

I'm on tour from friday-sunday so would only be able to predict about sunday afternoon unless i can sneakily do it on the train going up.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 06 May 2013, 1:07 pm

Falcons today boys....

We smashed Leeds home and away but we've been creaking of late, I'm nervous tbh.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 06 May 2013, 1:23 pm

Got the tv reserved for it, and a few beers. Should be a good one!"

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Post by Driver Mon 06 May 2013, 1:37 pm

£20 a tickets isnt that bad, nice day for it aswell
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 06 May 2013, 2:51 pm

Would have loved to go but have zero time lately

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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon 06 May 2013, 2:59 pm

If you put less time into bagging Mat's players then you might have had time to go mate! Wink
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Post by Driver Mon 06 May 2013, 3:00 pm

I was going to go but wasnt sure if id be off today.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 06 May 2013, 3:15 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:If you put less time into bagging Mat's players then you might have had time to go mate! Wink

Full time occupation that Pete! So Matt seems to think anyway the way he invented comments I made.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 06 May 2013, 4:29 pm

Newcastle need to considerably improve on their current first choice TH. He has been awful! Only up against Imiolek!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 06 May 2013, 4:30 pm

Miss a bit of bulk in the engine room but your not wrong.

Really poor performance

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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 06 May 2013, 5:02 pm

Superb try from Burrows. Will make Sunday very interesting.

Have to say Matt Championship not looking all that weak to me.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 06 May 2013, 5:03 pm

Leeds thoroughly deserved that win - reckon they needed a 10 point winning margin to be in with a proper shout of winning next week! Though Falcons form seems to have really slipped off of late!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 06 May 2013, 5:47 pm

Championship isn't as weak as any other year, Matt is well off the mark tbh.

We were garbage though, really slipped off of late. Bizarre call to start Mayhew who looked like he didn't know the calls. Engine room was too underpowered and Tane looked so unfit.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 06 May 2013, 5:57 pm

Championship has gone backwards a bit this season, but that is because the RFU failed to find a sponsor and get money to the clubs - some very good players in there, quality can be very much dependent on getting the right dual registrations in place.

Think next season could be better again, as new sponsorship deal will bring money in for the clubs, more stability - hoping Bristol can get back to the prem, looks like they could have a very good squad next year.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 06 May 2013, 6:04 pm

The standard has not went backwards, 100% on that

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Post by dammit_chris Tue 07 May 2013, 10:41 am

Wow. Sam Jones from Wasps has got a call up for the BaaBaas to play the Lions. Wasps have got a good bunch of youngsters going through at the moment.

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