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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

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2 Homepage 7Harlequins21150 6 550 499 +51 60 50 3 5 68
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5 Homepage 12Sale Sharks21 12 0 9 536 508 +28 58 52 2 9 59
6 Homepage 5London Irish2111 0 10 532 517 +15 57 52 3 9 56
7 Homepage 9Northampton Saints21111 9 526 511 +15 55 53 2 8 56
8 Homepage 50London Welsh21 9 3 9 495 484 +11 53 48 0 9 51
9 Homepage 1Bath Rugby2190 12 487 519 -32 46 56 0 8 44
10 Homepage 11Saracens2151 15 437 528 -91 39 57 0 729
11 Homepage 57Worcester Warriors2131 17 452 516 -64 39 57 1 11 26
12 Homepage 6London Wasps 2130 18 419 537 -118 37 60 0 13 25






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Fluxy Thu 11 Apr 2013, 10:14 pm

Apparently Edwards has said that Faletau is going nowhere. But I didn't realise Dragons had signed Talei. Did they expect him to leave, or is one of them going to move to six with Lydiate off to France or the Blues.

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3825_8631385,00.html

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Post by stnick88 Fri 12 Apr 2013, 9:32 am

theres some bloke called Alex Corbisiero on the bench for Irish tomorrow, you ever heard of him Pete?

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Apr 2013, 9:37 am

No way Corbs back ! Wow that came out of nowhere.

Did not expect this to happen so quickly either
http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/lions-09/story/0,25883,16024_8632592,00.html

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Post by stnick88 Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:49 pm

http://www.espnscrum.com/lions-tour-2013/rugby/story/180369.html

lifeline it seems for Top 14 players

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:53 pm

Looking at 10s playing well got to be a surprise if Wilko doesn't go, and Jenkins will surely go too.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:55 pm

Jenkins likely as he is leaving Toulon so might pop off early a la Hines 2009.

Wilkinson could go due to no obvious 3rd choice after Sexton and Faz.

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:57 pm

Jenkins for me a no. Wilko a yes.


Jenkins had a decent. 6 n but been poor for Toulon.

It will be touch and go. Gatland a big fan.

Never been a Jenkins fan ever. Think we have a chance to go after their scrum and Jenkins is not a big scrummager.

Would prefer Sheridan.

That said you could have a welsh front row. If Corbs can get a few games in I would have him. Better scrummager by a mile.

Healy grant and then ????

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:59 pm

Will be touch and go.

Sheridan did himself no favours against Toulouse but for me it was more due to Bruno not being good enough anymore.

Luke had loads of his front row against each other in that one. You have some tasty options luke

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Apr 2013, 2:59 pm

Against Toulon sorry

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:01 pm

Yeh it was like a tigers training session Wink

Cole got the better of Sheridan, but then most of us say Cole one of the best ths around so no shock.

Jenkins proves for me in the 6N he just needed game time. By the latter stages back to top form.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:03 pm

Steffon had a average game v Tigers, almosts seemed to be trying too hard to impress.

Sheridan was poor also.

Wilkinson came out of that game the best. Delon was solid too.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:11 pm

Gatland pretty much saying captain won't be a back.

And that team will be picked on best players, not players to suit a certain style.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:36 pm

Just seen highlights of the amlin. Biarritz and Yach looked awesome.

How good did Nayacalevu from Stade look?

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Post by Guest Fri 12 Apr 2013, 3:42 pm

Hari yach combo works so well. They are telepathic together

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 12 Apr 2013, 6:27 pm

Also hinted at Wade perhaps going!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 7:24 pm

Jenkins will def tour

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Post by Fluxy Fri 12 Apr 2013, 7:32 pm

Just watching the Scarlets and Glasgow game and they're talking about transfers in the extra commentary. Kingsley Jones saying that he tried to sign Corbs to Sale when he was 18 - imagine that one!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 7:58 pm

Why did Robson run that??? Showing his inexperience.

36 looking good

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 8:24 pm

Rose is an awful ref

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 8:35 pm

Rob Cook is having a mare

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:30 pm

Brilliant win! Haven't seen it but can't wait to watch it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 12 Apr 2013, 11:56 pm

Played well Steve, only seen first half but you looked the better team. Gloucester lacked the intensity to win away

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 2:31 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Rose is an awful ref

Yes he is. I know Wayne Barnes quite well and he is maybe 3 years younger than me maybe 5. He reffed from
Age of 13 and got promoted massively.

I remember playing Clive woodwards Henley at home and beating them
through thuggery rather than talent. ( they beat us by 50 at their place ) Barnes reffed and was 15/16 max at national league and ill cut out for what we did. Also as a local lad he knew us all
And was scared to officiate against.

Rose was given same promotional treatment based on colour and ed Morrison( reffed wc final) was assigned as mentor.

Rose did over 30 linesman duties before being given reins and was promoted like a star due to being black.

We have the woman who has done touch line in prem and she is a great ref.
Rose never earned his spurs and is a token vote.

So many prem refs bad.

Rowden small smart Doyle all dross.

Pearson best by a mile in prem. also like goodlife

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 2:35 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Rob Cook is having a mare

When does he not?

Our worst position. Morgan fit but not ready and working out whether to quit. Thomas awful. Lindsay Hague would work. Rumours Balshaw will sign for year hope so !

Glos away are worst team every year. Our depth is awful. Now we have no th or hooker we
Will lose every game. Rumours we are
In for Buchanan and George hope so.

Can't imagine Quins losing Buchanan.
If he could throw he would be lethal

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 8:42 am

Gloucester haven t won in manchester since 2001

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:15 am

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:35 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:Gloucester haven t won in manchester since 2001

That says it all Steve. Great stat if your a sale fan

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:51 am

Reds get 5 points from the Cheifs in NZ this morning, denying the Chiefs a LBP.

Genia supposed to be brilliant with Cooper not far behind with 16 points and a try. Outplayed Cruden who struggled by what I've read throwing an interception and letting Cooper coast through.



'Not far behind Genia in the influence stakes was first five-eighth Quade Cooper.

His class and composure provided a telling response to Australian coach Robbie Deans, who left the playmaker out of the first Wallabies squad of the year midweek.'

http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Reds-hold-off-Chiefs-Chiefs-Vs-Reds-23-31-Super-Rugby-2013/tabid/415/articleID/294146/Default.aspx





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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:53 am

Reds were always going to win at home, they're looking in pretty good nick. Horwill back is a real bonus for them too.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:56 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Reds were always going to win at home, they're looking in pretty good nick. Horwill back is a real bonus for them too.

Bookies saw it a bit differently. Man for man on paper chiefs better. I thought reds would win to be fair.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:57 am

I think your thoughts that Genia could be finished have certainly been put to bed. He has been better than ever

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:57 am

Chiefs were favs? That's surprising, should have had a tipple

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:58 am

Chiefs were evens or loss by 1 I think which was crazy. Planet rugby has betting odds on Friday. They change quite a bit.

Super 15 has so many upsets
So is hard to bet on

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 9:59 am

anonmattyt wrote:I think your thoughts that Genia could be finished have certainly been put to bed. He has been better than ever

I don't think I said finished, I said he may not be the same player as often a serious knee injury can make you lose a yard of pace.

He's playing well but Int will be more of a test, you tend to get more space in the S15.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 10:05 am

Huge space in s15.

Read Genia saying the injury gave him a needed rest and is in top nick.

Blues 6 is phenomenal leutua.

Perenara had a mare

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 10:05 am

Barrett been even worse

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 10:41 am

Rebels pack is bloody awful, poor Higginbottom is fighting alone here.

See Deans requested JOC at 10 this week

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 10:59 am

JOC tactical kicking is excellent, needs it as the Rebels are terrible.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:17 am

JOC is no 10 that is for sure. No idea of how to play there.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:19 am

Rebels awful. 2 good locks and one good Backrow means the pack is shocking

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:22 am

Reds looking great. Horwill back great news for them, bad news for lions. Not many better 5's in the world.

"Reds captain James Horwill produced an inspired performance and was responsible for setting the tone of the match early with a clean linebreak and try-saving tackle within the opening five minutes."

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:25 am

Saying Cooper mixed sublime with terrible on Rebels game

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:28 am

JOC really starting to grow, trying a bit too hard but dragging Rebels back in. Such a class act

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:32 am

Tim Horan

"Genia, Cooper huge efforts. Liam Gill could be the no 7 v BL. Horwill becoming like Martin Johnson as a leader"

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:37 am

To be fair Tim horan would pick 15 reds in the Aussie side he is pure Queensland.

That said I do like horwill as a captain. He has a big impact on the team.

I love JOC just want to see him play one position and 10 is definitely not it

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:37 am

Looks like Kaino is on his back:

http://www.3news.co.nz/Kaino-keen-to-return-to-NZ-rugby/tabid/415/articleID/294160/Default.aspx?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+co%2FHCaY+%283News-+Latest+News%29

They need him, Messam isn't AB class.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:38 am

I don't know Matt, given time he's got the game for it.

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Post by Guest Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:39 am

Struggle to get in at 6 for blues. Their 6 is excellent and is who I will be looking at in foreigns I think

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sat 13 Apr 2013, 11:51 am

It was in NZ Pooly. Huge win for them as reds have looked in top nick.

What I've read is Cooper missed two late pens. He and Genia such a great partnership.

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