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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 11 Apr 2013, 9:33 pm

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Breaking News: Leicester Tigers secure top spot and a home semi-final with their first bonus point win of the league season against Bath at The Rec.

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2 Homepage - Page 10 7Harlequins21150 6 550 499 +51 60 50 3 5 68
3 Homepage - Page 10 2Gloucester21140 7 546 488 +58 63 50 4 5 65
4 Homepage - Page 10 8Newcastle Falcons21131 7 530 485 +45 56 45 1 7 62
5 Homepage - Page 10 12Sale Sharks21 12 0 9 536 508 +28 58 52 2 9 59
6 Homepage - Page 10 5London Irish2111 0 10 532 517 +15 57 52 3 9 56
7 Homepage - Page 10 9Northampton Saints21111 9 526 511 +15 55 53 2 8 56
8 Homepage - Page 10 50London Welsh21 9 3 9 495 484 +11 53 48 0 9 51
9 Homepage - Page 10 1Bath Rugby2190 12 487 519 -32 46 56 0 8 44
10 Homepage - Page 10 11Saracens2151 15 437 528 -91 39 57 0 729
11 Homepage - Page 10 57Worcester Warriors2131 17 452 516 -64 39 57 1 11 26
12 Homepage - Page 10 6London Wasps 2130 18 419 537 -118 37 60 0 13 25






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Thu 25 Apr 2013, 7:37 am

Cips has been hit by a bus on a night out

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 7:50 am

What a douche

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Post by stnick88 Thu 25 Apr 2013, 8:40 am

not overly bothered Chris. Knew it was happening. Sisi has been injured all season. Watson has a lot of potential but isnt ready for AP rugby yet and we need people that are in our current state.

Garvey is the one which is hard to take. He is awesome. JJ was a disruptive influence on the squad this season so I am glad he has gone. Couple of England caps and he thought he was the best back in the country.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 8:51 am

JJ strike me like he's mr big time for some reason. He's not done anything on the Int stage, he needs to buckle down and prove he's good enough. Is Bath the right side to do that??

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:09 am

Whole squad were on an Otley run in Leeds from about midday yesterday!

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Post by stnick88 Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:12 am

He really is Pooly. I've met him a few times and he acts like a footballer. Clearly has talent and has shown glimpses of it but needs to work harder. He had no motivation for us at all this season and even when he was fit Guy Armitage was picked ahead of him. Armitage isn't as talented but his work rate and attitude are miles better.


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Post by Guest Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:17 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:Whole squad were on an Otley run in Leeds from about midday yesterday!

I did the Otley run many times as a student. That is one long road of pubs

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:19 am

He has bags of talent, hope he kicks on.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:20 am

I used to live just off Otley Road, you used to see some right states down there.

A Double decker bus though????

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:28 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He has bags of talent, hope he kicks on.

I take it its Jj and not cips you are talking about

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:29 am

Steve will have my team in about 9-10 pm in notts all day and have 5 a side this evening.

No surprises in my team. 7 English is bloody hard

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:47 am

I haven't even thought about mine yet for revision. Will be in sometime today/evening!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:49 am

Bath have signed Sisi and Watson from Irish! Is this old news?

Bath are pillaging irish!!

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Post by Ozzy3213 Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:55 am

As Nick has said, Garvey is the only one going to Bath that is a real loss for us. Lahiff to Rebels is also a big loss, but I'm not overly worried about the other leavers.
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Post by dammit_chris Thu 25 Apr 2013, 10:13 am

I did like Andy Powell's tweet about the Cipriani bus incident -

Danny Cipriani has been double deckered #hisbesttackleoftheseasonyet

I would imagine a pub crawl with Powell could be quite entertaining and that the injuries aren't that bad!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 25 Apr 2013, 10:30 am

I'd be concerned at Watson and Sisi if an Irish fan. Two talented rugby players who are only young and developing.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 25 Apr 2013, 10:32 am

Agree with you Steve, to lose that many players who you have brought through the academy system like that isn't great. Also would be hacked off if I was a player in the Bath academy, or trying to break through into the first team.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 25 Apr 2013, 10:36 am

I like Bath,and am pleased they are recruiting good young EQ players.

On that subject anybody seen much of Lee Dickson in the last few weeks? He has been making a lot more linebreaks than usual and has been in some good nick. Reckon he is putting his marker down for Fotoalii's arrival?

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Post by Fluxy Thu 25 Apr 2013, 10:39 am

The pair are in areas that Bath haven't quite got the best academy players anyway. I know they've tried playing Devoto at fullback and he has done for the u20 for England, but you can see that he isn't comfortable there.

The rumours about Faletau signing on for Bath have stepped up.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 25 Apr 2013, 10:42 am

Watson is a bit of a loss as he has played some AP rugby this season, looked OK but a bit out of his depth at times. Has a lot of potential though.

Sisi has been injured all year, I haven't seen enough of him to judge whether he is any good or not.

I would be a lot more concerned if we were losing players like Aulika, Hala'ufia, Skivington who are the backbone of our team. Losing youngsters who don't play first team rugby isn't as bad as right now we need to be consolidating our AP status not blooding youngsters. In the long term losing some youngens might be a blow but right now it isnt such a problem. We also still have good young players like Guy Armitage, Marland Yarde, Gerard Ellis who actually want to play for the club and our developing well.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 25 Apr 2013, 11:57 am

From Telegraph today, England’s Lions hopefuls

Players with boarding cards: Dan Cole, Dylan Hartley, Tom Youngs, Tom Croft, Ben Youngs, Owen Farrell, Manu Tuilagi

Hoping someone gets bumped: Geoff Parling, Danny Care

On standby: Chris Robshaw, Chris Ashton, Mako Vunipola, Ben Morgan, Billy Twelvetrees, Tom Wood

Bound for Argentina: Joe Launchbury, Brad Barritt, Courtney Lawes, Alex Goode, Mike Brown

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 25 Apr 2013, 12:07 pm

If Tom Croft goes ahead of Robshaw or Wood then Gatland needs his head shaking.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 25 Apr 2013, 12:22 pm

Croft can count himself lucky. Wood must be fuming. Can understand Robshaw not going, but Wood is quick and would suit the hard grounds.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 25 Apr 2013, 12:39 pm

Hartley.......no way!

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 25 Apr 2013, 12:39 pm

Wood for me is the best no6 we have, Croft has put in some good performances lately and his pace makes him really stand out. Think Wood brings more to the game.

I dont think they will take Hartley and Youngs either, Best isnt that bad form is he, and Hibbard seemed the best hooker during 6Nations.

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Apr 2013, 5:23 pm

Just received the tickets and table plan to the lions lunch next week.

Gatland quinnell Dawson and Andy Irvine on table next to ours. Is the squad announced next week ?

If so can see with free booze can see me giving gatland pelters if Tom wood does not go

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Post by dammit_chris Thu 25 Apr 2013, 5:50 pm

Think it was a week yesterday it gets named.

Potential bolters Mako Vunipola and Christian Wade?

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Post by Guest Thu 25 Apr 2013, 6:03 pm

Just read its April 30th. Great cant wait. Interested in who will be named as standby. Always at least 6 players get injured on tour often more

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 25 Apr 2013, 9:06 pm

Yannick Forestier (LH) (FRA)
Sebastien Bruno (HK) (FRA)
Craig Mitchell (TH) (WAL)
Simon Shaw (ENG)
Romain Taofifenua (FRA)
Ryan Jones (N8/BS/LK) (WAL)
Steve Mafi (BS/LK) (TON)
Jacques Burger (OS/BS) (NAM)
Roger Wilson (N8) (IRE)
James Scaysbrook (OS/BS) (ENG)
Eoin Reddan (IRE)
Micky Young (ENG)
Frederic Michalak (FRA)
Rory Clegg (ENG)
Brian O'Driscoll (OC) (IRE)
Maxime Mermoz (IC/OC) (FRA)
Dominic Waldouck (OC/IC) (ENG)
Vincent Clerc (WG) (FRA)
Clement Poitrenaud (FB) (FRA)
Paul Sackey (WG) (ENG)


Could all be available for the right deal.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 11:08 am

Cooper playing well.

Piteau is immense for Blues, most clean breaks and metres in Super rugby is impressive.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 26 Apr 2013, 11:19 am

What a hit Quade Very Happy

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 26 Apr 2013, 11:20 am

Blues very impressive. I would love to see some cross hemisphere club games to see how this style of play worked against stronger northern hemisphere sides.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 26 Apr 2013, 11:21 am

Massive hit!

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 26 Apr 2013, 12:30 pm

Good game. Blues didn't deserve to lose. Couple of future all blacks in there side I suspect. Luatua, Piatau(Although skills and kicking need a touch of work) and Ranger all be there or there abouts.

Cooper continues to play well.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 2:23 pm

I could see Piatau in the centres, Ranger is off to France

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 5:49 pm

England WC squad


Dom Barrow (Leeds Carnegie)*
Jack Clifford (Harlequins)*
Joel Conlon (Exeter Chiefs)
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)*
Matt Hankin (Saracens)
Alec Hepburn (London Wasps)*
Danny Hobbs-Awoyemi (Northampton Saints)
Ross Moriarty (Gloucester Rugby)
Nathan Morris (London Wasps)*
Tom Price (Leicester Tigers)
David Sisi (London Irish)*
Tom Smallbone (London Irish)
Scott Spurling (Saracens)
Elliott Stooke (Gloucester Rugby)
Harry Wells (Leicester Tigers)
Scott Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

Backs
Callum Braley (Bristol Rugby)
Alex Day (Northampton Saints)
Ollie Devoto (Bath Rugby)
Sam Hill (Exeter Chiefs)*
Will Hooley (Northampton Saints)
Ben Howard (Worcester Warriors)
Mark Jennings (Sale Sharks)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs)
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)*
Harry Sloan (Harlequins)
Tom Stephenson (Northampton Saints)
Anthony Watson (London Irish)

Watch out for Scotty Wilson (TH), he's smashing scrums at Champ level, massive talent.

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Apr 2013, 5:57 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I could see Piatau in the centres, Ranger is off to France

I could see him as a winger . He is magic ball in hand. First time I saw him in Itm a few seasons ago you could tell. Still raw in the basics like kicking etc but supremely talented and such a strong runner. Pops up everywhere

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Apr 2013, 5:59 pm

Moriarty was first choice until sent off and banned against Ireland for horrendous tackle.

Real bruiser his dad is ex welsh player paul moriarty. Lots of moriartys played for Wales.

Him and stookes big hopes at gloucester. Also surprisingly forwards

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Post by Fluxy Fri 26 Apr 2013, 6:03 pm

Some great players in there!

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 26 Apr 2013, 6:26 pm

U20 squad looks pretty good, been very impressed with Nowell at Exeter, will be good to see whether a season in the Championship has helped Scott Spurling, very similar in style to Schalk Brits.

Henry Slade and Tom Stephenson will be very good players and could be the stand out backs, along with Nowell.

Players available:
HK Tatafu Polota-Nau (Australia)
PR Sona Taumalolo (Tonga) (1)
LK James Craig (E)
FH/FB Danny Cipriani (E)
WG Sitiveni Siviatu (NZ)

Academy:
PR Sebastien Taofifenua (France) 21/03/1992
FL Wian Liebenberg (SA) - 31/08/1992 (SA u20 Captain)
SH Bryn Hall (NZ) - 03/02/1992 (NZ Captain)
HK/BR Nick Walker (E)
FL Steve Uren (E) - 11/04/1994


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Post by Guest Fri 26 Apr 2013, 6:29 pm

Sam Hill from Exeter has been great on loan in championship

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Apr 2013, 7:04 pm

Hearing gloucester in talks with Samson lee from Scarlets !

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 7:35 pm

anonmattyt wrote:Sam Hill from Exeter has been great on loan in championship

I think he's been pretty average tbh

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Apr 2013, 8:14 pm

Seen 2 or 3 games when his reading of the game has been top. To be fair none of us see much championship rugby bar highlights so hard to judge

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 8:25 pm

Not been great in games I've saw, only a boy though.

Hook nailing his spot on Lions tour

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 8:36 pm

See Taumalolo still can't scrummage

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Apr 2013, 10:46 pm

Captaincy an underrated feature of rugby.

Parisse a master of understanding the game as a captain.

Contrast that with the glaring errors Robshaw made early in season and horwill recently with relentlessly going for touch over points against Brumbies and it shows the value of captaincy and most probably international experience. Watching the stade vs Perpignan game on replay and parisse as a captain is so shrewd

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 26 Apr 2013, 11:10 pm

Horwill is a quality captain, Reds are half the team without his leadership.

Parisse is a top captain but not rocket science when your scrum is so on top to go for re-scrum.

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Post by Guest Fri 26 Apr 2013, 11:25 pm

Agree re horwill. Take away him or Genia and the team is not a team.

Captaincy is different to what you bring as a player. Fitzpatrick today saying about bad decisions he made vs Brumbies which I agreed with. It cost them a win.

Experience at top level is massive. Horwill himself admits he he needs to learn game management http://m.theaustralian.com.au/sport/rugby-union/james-horwill-admits-his-game-management-needs-to-be-better/story-e6frg7o6-1226626209734

Parisse made some dreadful emotional decisions when he was younger. He is now a 90 odd caps as captain international.

Horwill about 26 but not played that much rugby due to injury. This will be the norm in modern game as injuries so prevalent. Horwill a stand out player who has added carrying and dynamism to his game. Think he has been top since back.

My point was about how captaincy and experience is a big thing.

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