Madrid Masters 1000 match thread

by lydian Tue May 07, 2013 1:41 pm

First topic message reminder :

Just somewhere to drop random comments on the matches outside the draw and picking threads.

Youhnzy got a good win over Fognini today winning in 3rd set TB.
Wawrinka continuing his good form with a win over Popsicle.
Paire and Monaco have also won.

However, THE match today has to be Djokovic vs Dimitrov at around 7pm UK time.
Can Grigor take heart from recent matches to keep pushing on?
Can he pose a serious challenge to Djokovic on lung-busting clay?
The faster altitude should help Grigor who has a fast serve and flashing groundstrokes.

by banbrotam Fri May 10, 2013 3:28 pm

lydian wrote:Deary me, this is absolute garbage from Nadal.

Is it though? It's noticable that the same comments have been made about Fed and Novak this week and Murray at Miami. Don't you think that we've actually been spoilt with tennis that the 'big 3' have given us over the years and hence we then do not give players like Ferrer (and Murray at times) enough credit

I'm still amazed how the 2011 / early 2012 form of the 'big 4' got just a mere shrug of the shoulders.

We should treasure it as we won't see four players performing as well as that for 18 months for a long time

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 3:30 pm

No it was just garbage

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 3:34 pm

I would still expect Rafa to win, but thats simply because he is simply a cut above Ferrer with no match-up flaw. Thus in normal condition, he will win, and in abnormal conditions, he should still win. Only in injured conditions can Ferrer be seen as having a chance.

by Guest Fri May 10, 2013 3:37 pm

Nadal playing much better now.

by Guest Fri May 10, 2013 3:38 pm

If this goes to three there's only gona be one winner.

In fact I'm expecting Ferrer to start choking at any point now.

by Cogen Fri May 10, 2013 3:40 pm

GSM Nadal

by Guest Fri May 10, 2013 3:41 pm

Hehe

I told you so.

by banbrotam Fri May 10, 2013 3:48 pm

It's amazing how Ferrer continues to get so much disrespect

by Cogen Fri May 10, 2013 3:53 pm

banbrotam wrote:It's amazing who Ferrer continues to get so much disrespect

Personally I don't disrespect Ferrer. I think he is an amazing competitor. But it is just crazy to expect anything other than a Nadal victory given the 17-4 head-to-head (and 3 of Ferrer's 4 victories were on hardcourt).

by Cogen Fri May 10, 2013 3:57 pm

He's doing the job right now though... 4-2 Shocked

by **laverfan** Fri May 10, 2013 3:58 pm

Up a set and break Ferrer is. Cool

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by banbrotam Fri May 10, 2013 4:00 pm

Cogen wrote:
banbrotam wrote:It's amazing who Ferrer continues to get so much disrespect

Personally I don't disrespect Ferrer. I think he is an amazing competitor. But it is just crazy to expect anything other than a Nadal victory given the 17-4 head-to-head (and 3 of Ferrer's 4 victories were on hardcourt).

I wasn't meaning you Very Happy

Us Murray fans suffer enough from the same disrespect for our favourite to join in with the 'bear baiting'. But the record's incidental - of course Nadal will probably win. My problem is if you look at the comments that Ferrer gets, say during the last 6 months, you'd think he was jobbing 51st ranked player

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri May 10, 2013 4:01 pm

laverfan wrote:Up a set and break Ferrer is. .

Like Yoda you talk

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri May 10, 2013 4:03 pm

The problem with Ferrer is that his style of tennis is so uninspiring.

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:04 pm

This is woeful stuff from Nadal TBH, where's any semblance of his form gone? The BH is awful, his movement is poor and he just looks as flat as hell, its like he's going through the motions and doesn't want to be out there. This is Ferrer's to take...

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:09 pm

I mean just look at that play at 4-4, 30-30...FH dumped into the net off a nothing ball from Ferrer. Abject really.

by Cogen Fri May 10, 2013 4:11 pm

From 4-2 up to 4-5 down. Ferrer has surely missed his chance now?

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:11 pm

But somehow he contrives the break...amazed really.
Surely the real Nadal has to stand up at some point...

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri May 10, 2013 4:12 pm

lydian wrote:This is woeful stuff from Nadal TBH, where's any semblance of his form gone? The BH is awful, his movement is poor and he just looks as flat as hell, its like he's going through the motions and doesn't want to be out there. This is Ferrer's to take...

Ferrer's more of a giver. In fact, he's the gift that keeps on giving.

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 4:16 pm

Someone on Twitter described the situation wonderfully. Ferrer is Cinderella trying to get home before the carriage becomes a pumpkin...

Continuing with that metaphor, the carriage is beginning to look distinctly orange...

by Cogen Fri May 10, 2013 4:17 pm

Reeeeeeeally? Headscratch

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:20 pm

Mr Abject returns ... Ferrer isn't really doing much to win here either.

by Chydremion Fri May 10, 2013 4:20 pm

If Ferrer beats Nadal, I can see Murray winning Madrid. Would be hilarious.

by The Special Juan Fri May 10, 2013 4:22 pm

Come on Stan!!!

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:23 pm

Yep, Murray would be fave.
Nadal is just letting Ferrer dominate, its ridiculous.
His confidence is shot.

by CaledonianCraig Fri May 10, 2013 4:24 pm

Chydremion wrote:If Ferrer beats Nadal, I can see Murray winning Madrid. Would be hilarious.

I can't.

by The Special Juan Fri May 10, 2013 4:25 pm

How did he get that back!!!?

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:27 pm

Yeah that 15-30 point was outrageous.

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 4:28 pm

Well there goes the four seeding

by Cogen Fri May 10, 2013 4:29 pm

If Nadal goes out, I'd bank on a Ferrer vs Wawrinka final, with Stan winning.

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:31 pm

Wouldn't mind Stan winning at all.

by Cogen Fri May 10, 2013 4:33 pm

Irrelevant discussion though, isn't it? Nadal isn't going anywhere... Whistle

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:33 pm

Ferrer feeling the heat...

by The Special Juan Fri May 10, 2013 4:33 pm

I really want to see Stan win a Masters and I think this one might be his best chance. Everyone is looking beatable.

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 4:34 pm

Cinderellas Midnight is up. Shame to it was really good till it became real

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:35 pm

True Cogen...but it didn't look likely.
That 15-30, 5-6 wonder point may have just saved Nadal's life.
Still, its not over yet...

by The Special Juan Fri May 10, 2013 4:36 pm

I still can't comprehend that point. I wonder how much he knew about it and how much was pure instinct.

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 4:37 pm

Its what sets the great guys apart, Lydian. When the going gets tough the tough walk on water.

by The Special Juan Fri May 10, 2013 4:43 pm

That was almost as..... uncomprehendable than the 15-30 shot. I saw it coming though. Honest. Whistle

by Guest Fri May 10, 2013 4:43 pm

Ok this match has officially gotten boring mad

by **laverfan** Fri May 10, 2013 4:48 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
laverfan wrote:Up a set and break Ferrer is. .

Like Yoda you talk

I do, no?

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 4:52 pm

We knew this would happen, no?

by The Special Juan Fri May 10, 2013 4:54 pm

Bagel.

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 4:58 pm

Yep...you had a feeling it might, Ferrer probably still has that 15-30 point going through his head for 2 certain match points.

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri May 10, 2013 4:58 pm

and people wonder why Ferrer gets stick from some posters?
At least Cinderella had some solid glass (slippers). Ferrer's bottle got lost long ago.

by The Special Juan Fri May 10, 2013 5:01 pm

I think that would have hurt anyone JHM. Perhaps only Djokovic would have got over that one quickly enough to regroup for the TB, and maybe not even him. As for the third set, again only a select few would have come back fighting. I am very disappointed in Daveed though.

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 5:02 pm

The forehand is on right now. Worth the price of admission on its own

by lydian Fri May 10, 2013 5:03 pm

Yeah, its only taken 2.5 hrs for it to show up...

by kingraf Fri May 10, 2013 5:08 pm

the benefits of having a reputation Lydian. Keeps you in it until you actually show up

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri May 10, 2013 5:09 pm

Hopefully this will be the last we hear of 'Ferrer deserves a Masters'. For what?

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