Scottish Pro team thread

by 123456789 Mon May 27, 2013 5:50 pm

First topic message reminder :

There doesn't seem to be much going on but I thought it might be an idea to set up a thread devoted to transfers, coaching news and general new information to do with the Scottish pro clubs over the summer

by IanBru Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:29 am

I reckon it's the Fijian utility back Tulibula.

Crazy-ass acid-induced hunch, and little more.

by Dorothy_Mantooth Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:31 am

IanBru wrote:I reckon it's the Fijian utility back Tulibula.

Crazy-ass acid-induced hunch, and little more.

Its a South African, Flanker Tyrone Holmes. Scottish Qualified.

by IanBru Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:34 am

Ok, I'm in there with the first claim for a Glasgow-esque random nickname:

'Sherlock' somehow seems to obvious, so I'll suggest 'Morriarty'.

by **RDW** Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:35 am

Sounds like a decent signing - played at a high level in SA and SQ so even if he is just a squad player it is good for the club.

Anyone know anything about him?

by **RDW** Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:59 am

Just seen that he's in fact only played 1 game for the stormers and has been playing rugby in Italy all season, not sure if it is one of the 2 pro teams...

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:07 am

RDW, think he's been in Padova

by Manky-Flanker Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:20 am

Tyrone's highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-oKDvrgoek

by Dorothy_Mantooth Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:32 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:Just seen that he's in fact only played 1 game for the stormers and has been playing rugby in Italy all season, not sure if it is one of the 2 pro teams...

He was a regular in a very strong Western Province team in 2012, so hopefully he has some kind of pedigree.

Its only a one year deal and its an area where we needed to bring someone in. Being Scottish Qualified makes it even better.

Hopefully we can bring in one more Center, with proven experience to complete the squad for next season.

by **RDW** Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:37 am

Yeah I don't see anything wrong with this - a 27 year old SQ flanker with top level experience is a good signing, if even just for squad cover.

Remember Edinburgh signed a 35 year old Tongan Hooker on a 2 year deal!

I dread to think what signings are coming Edinburgh's way this summer...

by Dorothy_Mantooth Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:51 am

RDW_Scotland wrote:

I dread to think what signings are coming Edinburgh's way this summer...

by funnyExiledScot Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:10 pm

Sounds like more sensible business by Glasgow, and it's only a 1 year deal so if he turns out to be a bit Atiga-ish (new adjective for the Oxford Dictionary - not possible to define on here due to filters), then little harm done. If he's any good, then no doubt Glasgow have a bargain.

The Beeb story on Simon Cross seemed a bit garbled to me. I see they've edited it but it initially suggested that he's been Edinburgh's head coach since 2011.....nice to know the Beeb keep their toe wet in all things Scottish rugby.....

Not too bothered about Cross leaving in any case. What is important is that the new head coach - whoever he may be - picks his own staff. I just wish they'd get on with it!!

by **RDW** Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:22 pm

I wonder how Edinburgh season tickets are getting on considering we had a crap season, have no coach and no exciting new players.

Glasgow have over 2000, Edinburgh probably have 2 - FES and someone that won it in a competition!

by funnyExiledScot Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:30 pm

Well they keep sending letters trying to sell more, and haven't made any sort of announcement re: sales as far as I'm aware, so I assume that they are a few short of last year.

It also looks like there'll be no pre-season match at Murrayfield, with the Newcastle game being shipped to the Borders. I appreciate the need to spread the word, and the free bus to and from the game is a nice offer, but it's slightly annoying for those of us who likely won't be able to escape work in time to make that game.

by EST Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:48 pm

Good, solid signing - gives some more balance to the backrow - and if he isn't up to standard its only a one year deal.

Just an inside centre away now - I wonder if Alex Blair might get a look in, just noticed he is fit again. Scottish, talented and could come in cheap on a year deal to see if he was up to it.

by **RDW** Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:53 pm

It will be interesting to see how the signings are split up - yes Glasgow need a centre (especially with Horne injured) but Edinburgh are equally understaffed at centre.

by bsando Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:41 pm

Although not the most well loved of players, perhaps max Evans returning to Glasgow could be a good thing?

Nice signing by Glasgow, seems similar sort of player to Barclay so a good replacement. Interesting to see how he gets on.

What's the ten situation at Glasgow? Will weir, Jackson or Horne be available for first game? Not sure what the extent of the injuries are.

by **RDW** Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:45 pm

bsando wrote:
What's the ten situation at Glasgow? Will weir, Jackson or Horne be available for first game? Not sure what the extent of the injuries are.

Good point - that's 3 front line 10s all injured. I suspect Jackson or Weir will be back by then, probably more likely Jackson.

They've got Scott Wight still and he will do a job until one gets fit.

I wonder how long a holiday they will give the Scotland players? Pretty sure last year they got 4 weeks, which seemed a lot and it meant it was the 3rd or 4th game of the season before they played.

Plus they all had a holiday just before the summer tour so it's not as if they're short of holidays!

by funnyExiledScot Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:45 pm

They were pretty much on holiday during the Samoa fixture as well.....

Perhaps Finn Russell will get a shot for Glasgow in the first couple of fixtures.

by RuggerRadge2611 Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:31 pm

The prospect of who Edinburgh will be signing fills me with dread.

by Solid8 Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:15 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:The prospect of who Edinburgh will be signing fills me with dread.

As long as they do not become the unofficial Help for Heroes amputee rugby B XV any signing damage should be able to be undone when they FINALLY announce the new coach and he starts his job. This is assuming that he is a better coach than Bradley and lets face it, it is a tall order to be worse than him but if anyone can find a man to do that it is the SRU.

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:41 pm

TYRONE HOLMES
INTRO
This open side flanker is formidable at defense with a high work rate and ball stealing capabilities. He gained a lot of experience playing in the UK, made his Super 15 debut this year and is currently part of the WP Currie Cup starting team and is a vital part of the loose trio.

PERSONAL DETAILS

Full Name: Tyrone Holmes
Date of birth: 15 April 1986
Weight: 104kg
Height: 1.86m
Position: Flank
School: Fish Hoek High

Teams:
Petrarca Padova Club, Italy 2013
WP Currie Cup 2012
Stormers Super 15 2012
2012- WP Vodacom Side
2009 - 2011 - Cornish Pirates - ( 40 1st team caps, British & irish Cup champions)
2008-2009 - Western Province Vodacom Side, WP Currie Cup squad, Griquas Currie Cup, Springbok 7's. Emerging 7's team
2007- WP U21 Currie Cup squad- ( Currie Cup Champions)
2005-2006 - Rugby Performance Centre- ( 5 months at Northhampton Saints, played in successive Wonderers games in the Guiness A league)

Coaching Skills:
RFU Level 1
RFU Level 2
Personal Training Level 2

by jimbopip Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:04 pm

Young Mr Holmes, certainly talks the talk; he seems keen on Glasgow, city and club, and his faither is desperate to see him wear the thistle. If he can back it up with Bluto-esque performances we'll have done well here. I like him already. Yahoo

by funnyExiledScot Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:10 pm

Sounds a solid signing on paper and exactly what Glasgow need - i.e. an openside specialist. Interesting that he's SQ qualified. With the injury records that Fusaro and Rennie have, the more depth at 7 the merrier.

Still, we've seen a few players signed in recent times who looked good on paper, only to be rubbish on the pitch. Let's hope this lad is decent (except in the 1872 fixtures....).

by EWT Spoons Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:29 pm

So Glasgow have Holmes & Edinburgh have Watson.... There's a joke there I suspect. Either way the headline writers are going to have fun come 1872 cup time.

by bsando Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:10 pm

RDW - that's good to know they'll hopefully be on mend by then. Be good to see wight get more game time though.

How is Leonard and co? Is there a chance we'll be seeing more of them this season?

I suppose a back three of cuthbert, walker and visser won't be too shabby for Edinburgh. Big lads all of them.

by funnyExiledScot Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:29 pm

Assuming Edinburgh don't sign another 10, I'd expect Leonard to feature prominently this season, possibly first choice at 10.

I'd be astounded if Cuthbert displaced Greg Tonks from the 15 jersey. I think Cuthbert's primary role will be to provide an endless source of laughter for the Glasgow contingent on here.

I think Walker will actually be quite handy on the other hand, and similarly Ali Dickinson. Both experienced players who have been oft underrated by Scotland fans. I'm certainly happier with Walker on the right wing than Lee Jones, although that's saying very little.

by 21st Century Schizoid Man Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:35 pm

bsando wrote:RDW - that's good to know they'll hopefully be on mend by then. Be good to see wight get more game time though.

How is Leonard and co? Is there a chance we'll be seeing more of them this season?

I suppose a back three of cuthbert, walker and visser won't be too shabby for Edinburgh. Big lads all of them.

by Imperialbigdave Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:25 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:Assuming Edinburgh don't sign another 10, I'd expect Leonard to feature prominently this season, possibly first choice at 10.

I'd be astounded if Cuthbert displaced Greg Tonks from the 15 jersey. I think Cuthbert's primary role will be to provide an endless source of laughter for the Glasgow contingent on here.

I think Walker will actually be quite handy on the other hand, and similarly Ali Dickinson. Both experienced players who have been oft underrated by Scotland fans. I'm certainly happier with Walker on the right wing than Lee Jones, although that's saying very little.

Whatever people think of his international career, Walker was a resounding success with the Ospreys, it speaks volumes that Bowe often got shifted to 13 to accomodate Walker. Hes definitely a good pro12 player.

by funnyExiledScot Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:30 pm

The big caveat on Walker though is that he has to be used properly. No use chucking static ball at him and expecting miracles.

The Ospreys brought him off the wing as much as possible, and brought him onto the ball at pace. That way his power and long stride can be used to maximum effect.

Scotland never managed to do that (not that Parks and Morrison could release a fart successfully after a long plane journey) - hopefully Edinburgh can succeed in that regard.

by Imperialbigdave Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:20 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:The big caveat on Walker though is that he has to be used properly. No use chucking static ball at him and expecting miracles.

The Ospreys brought him off the wing as much as possible, and brought him onto the ball at pace. That way his power and long stride can be used to maximum effect.

Scotland never managed to do that (not that Parks and Morrison could release a fart successfully after a long plane journey) - hopefully Edinburgh can succeed in that regard.

If were good at one thing, its getting the best out of big wingers who arent as tough as their size suggests.

by **RDW** Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:14 am

Townsend's Tweets this morning suggesting another signing is on it's way...

by bsando Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:35 am

Interesting, wonder who it'll be?

by Totalflanker Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:42 pm

Fiji prop Jerry Yanuyanutawa from London Irish - ex-Brumbie

http://www.glasgowwarriors.org/news/13/07/04/glasgow-sign-fijian-international-prop

by Captain_Sensible Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:43 pm

Could be a decent signing. Glasgow do a have a very good record in prop spotting.

by **RDW** Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:44 pm

Looks like another good squad player.

What I like about these signings is that they are only 1 year deals - Edinburgh, take note!

by **Biltong** Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:45 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:TYRONE HOLMES
INTRO
This open side flanker is formidable at defense with a high work rate and ball stealing capabilities. He gained a lot of experience playing in the UK, made his Super 15 debut this year and is currently part of the WP Currie Cup starting team and is a vital part of the loose trio.

PERSONAL DETAILS

Full Name: Tyrone Holmes
Date of birth: 15 April 1986
Weight: 104kg
Height: 1.86m
Position: Flank
School: Fish Hoek High

Teams:
Petrarca Padova Club, Italy 2013
WP Currie Cup 2012
Stormers Super 15 2012
2012- WP Vodacom Side
2009 - 2011 - Cornish Pirates - ( 40 1st team caps, British & irish Cup champions)
2008-2009 - Western Province Vodacom Side, WP Currie Cup squad, Griquas Currie Cup, Springbok 7's. Emerging 7's team
2007- WP U21 Currie Cup squad- ( Currie Cup Champions)
2005-2006 - Rugby Performance Centre- ( 5 months at Northhampton Saints, played in successive Wonderers games in the Guiness A league)

Coaching Skills:
RFU Level 1
RFU Level 2
Personal Training Level 2

Yeah, unfortunately I don't know much about him, so can't really tell you whether he is a good signing or not.

by Dorothy_Mantooth Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:52 pm

Was not expecting us to sign a Prop. Does anyone know much about him?

by **RDW** Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:54 pm

Was gonna say actually - Glasgow aren't exactly short in that department?? Grant, Low, Welsh, Reid, Kalman, Coo - how many do they need?

by cakeordeath Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:01 pm

Maybe Kalman is retiring (also known as going to play at Edinburgh Run

)

by Captain_Sensible Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:04 pm

Welsh and Cusack are injured a lot, and Grant, Welsh and Low will be away with Scotland pretty frequently. When you look at it like that, the signing makes sense.

by IanBru Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:08 pm

It looks like he started three of the five Pacific Nations matches this year, at both loose- and tight-head (not at the same... well, you get it.), and was subbed on from the bench once.

Really good to see, particularly after seeing him part if the Fiji pack who totally minced the USA up front a couple weeks back.

I'm usually a bit skeptical of a PI player being touted as an 'international', when it usually turns out they've had on cap against Papua New Guinea, but Jerry looks the real deal.

by **RDW** Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:09 pm

Captain_Sensible wrote:Welsh and Cusack are injured a lot, and Grant, Welsh and Low will be away with Scotland pretty frequently. When you look at it like that, the signing makes sense.

Yeah but Edinburgh have 4 front line props, one of which is usually with Scotland and the other (Dickinson) may be involved....

by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:24 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
Captain_Sensible wrote:Welsh and Cusack are injured a lot, and Grant, Welsh and Low will be away with Scotland pretty frequently. When you look at it like that, the signing makes sense.

Yeah but Edinburgh have 4 front line props, one of which is usually with Scotland and the other (Dickinson) may be involved....

Look, time you MFLs simply got used to being the poor cousin - KNOW YOUR PLACE IN THE PECKING ORDER! Wink

by **RDW** Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:27 pm

Sorry ASBO! Sad

Seriously though - if Edinburgh don't sign a prop this is going to look a strange signing - Glasgow have 8 front line props or something like that and we have 4...

I suppose Atiga could always do us a shift there is required.

by bsando Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:02 pm

Seems like a good signing

by GLove39 Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:33 pm

"Yanuyanutawa" commentators nightmare that one!

by **RDW** Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:35 pm

Can't wait to hear the BBC ALBA Commentary on that one!

So what nickname is this guy gonna be given then on V2? 'Dave' for simplicity?

by IanBru Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:50 pm

Got to be 'Seinfeld'...

by RuggerRadge2611 Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:33 pm

I take it Edinburgh have just stopped signing guys through fear of getting panned on facebook and twitter again?

by **RDW** Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:40 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:I take it Edinburgh have just stopped signing guys through fear of getting panned on facebook and twitter again?

Radge - obviously our campaigns of outcry at the goings on at Edinburgh have had negative consequences...

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