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Fury pulls out of purse bids.
The purse bid for the proposed European Heavyweight title fight between undefeated champion Kubrat Pulev and challenger Tyson Fury has been cancelled today. According to German media, Fury has given up the chance to fight Pulev for the title in a fight that also doubled up as an IBF final eliminator.
Pulev has not fought since September and it remains to be seen whether he will now become mandatory to IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko or have to go through another eliminator.
Rumours persist that Fury is close to agreeing a September fight with British rival, and former WBA heavyweight champion, David Haye. In a recent interview, Kalle Sauerland, promoter of Pulev, called his man one of the most avoided fighters in the world.
Pulev has not fought since September and it remains to be seen whether he will now become mandatory to IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko or have to go through another eliminator.
Rumours persist that Fury is close to agreeing a September fight with British rival, and former WBA heavyweight champion, David Haye. In a recent interview, Kalle Sauerland, promoter of Pulev, called his man one of the most avoided fighters in the world.
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Re: Fury pulls out of purse bids.
Peter Fury just texted me:
"The Pulev fight was not financially viable enough for us"
There you go - from the horses mouth. Not sure what that means though!
"The Pulev fight was not financially viable enough for us"
There you go - from the horses mouth. Not sure what that means though!
Re: Fury pulls out of purse bids.
So much for wanting a world title fight. If he fights Haye he will get knocked out, although I suppose he will make more getting knocked out by Haye than Pulev.
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If the Haye thing is real than its understandable, but given Tyson's past I doubt it
How man purse bids has Fury pulled out of now? Why doenst Hennessy just cough up the money
How man purse bids has Fury pulled out of now? Why doenst Hennessy just cough up the money
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Haye has offered to fight Fury before and been turned down.........Price was also avoided pre-Thompson........
Fury talks a good fight though.
Fury talks a good fight though.
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Re: Fury pulls out of purse bids.
Barry Hearn said on ringside that boxing is a business. If Pulev wasn't financially viable then it makes sense to target the fight that is financially viable. Haye. That is if Haye will accept it and not claim an injured toe or another excuse amongst the plethora of excuses he's made since he started at HW.
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He still took the fight he asked for, that's more than Fury has done. Fury calls fighters (both boxers and MMA) out, they return in kind and fury goes in hiding
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The Pulev fight not being financially viable stinks. Its a fight that puts him a mandatory position, this to me says Uncle Pete saw how awful Tyson was in his last fight and realised he isn't ready.
I think Tophat mentioned on twitter about Roggie 2, there's been some back and forth between the pair on twitter lately and sadly it wouldn't surprise me if he fought him again.
Surely you won't defend him if he fights Roggie again Az?
I think Tophat mentioned on twitter about Roggie 2, there's been some back and forth between the pair on twitter lately and sadly it wouldn't surprise me if he fought him again.
Surely you won't defend him if he fights Roggie again Az?
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If he fights Roggie then its BS.
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He would get paid a lot to fight Haye, he should push to make that happen. A loss to him is not the worst thing that could happen to Fury's career.
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azania wrote:If he fights Roggie then its BS.
Getting soft in you old age Az
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Well get that sharp tounge into action instead thenazania wrote:So Mrs Az says
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Looked like a tough fight for Fury so not surprised he was looking for good terms.
Haye would be an even tougher test which I wouldn't see Fury coming through.
Haye would be an even tougher test which I wouldn't see Fury coming through.
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hampo171 wrote:The Pulev fight not being financially viable stinks. Its a fight that puts him a mandatory position, this to me says Uncle Pete saw how awful Tyson was in his last fight and realised he isn't ready.
I think Tophat mentioned on twitter about Roggie 2, there's been some back and forth between the pair on twitter lately and sadly it wouldn't surprise me if he fought him again.
Surely you won't defend him if he fights Roggie again Az?
I agree it does stink. He would rather fight another blown up CW or way past their prime HW.
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Pulev would probably have won. Its a shame I was looking forward to this!
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It's hard to defend Fury on this one, really! He has done it before and if his next opponent is a has been or never been like Harrison (god for bid) then he will be a joke of huge proportions. The only way he comes out of this without being widely derided is if the next fight is Haye.
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Re: Fury pulls out of purse bids.
Thompson said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out price, Wilder said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out Harrisson, Price said he wanted to fight fury and fury ducked him. Haye said he wanted to fight Fury and fury refused.
Thompson, wilder, Price, Haye.
WHo has Fury fought instead? Rogan, Madalone, Johnson and Cunningham.
Fury is ducking serious challengers and facing utter rubbish.
No doubt he will pull out of the fight with Pulev and fight some washed up CW.
Thompson, wilder, Price, Haye.
WHo has Fury fought instead? Rogan, Madalone, Johnson and Cunningham.
Fury is ducking serious challengers and facing utter rubbish.
No doubt he will pull out of the fight with Pulev and fight some washed up CW.
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National_Socialist wrote:Thompson said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out price, Wilder said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out Harrisson, Price said he wanted to fight fury and fury ducked him. Haye said he wanted to fight Fury and fury refused.
Thompson, wilder, Price, Haye.
WHo has Fury fought instead? Rogan, Madalone, Johnson and Cunningham.
Fury is ducking serious challengers and facing utter rubbish.
No doubt he will pull out of the fight with Pulev and fight some washed up CW.
Thompson is rematching Chinless Price so those two are out of the equation.
Wilder decided to box his woman and got arrested.
That leaves Haye who has made a career out of calling out all and sundry then fighting Audley. Pulev is crap and no money in it. So why waste time with him?
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Re: Fury pulls out of purse bids.
I don't think the money would be a huge problem if he was completely confident of beating Pulev.
They're clearly worried that he's going to get a smashing. I think they know he's going to get pancaked at some point in the near future, but they're holding out for the most financially pleasing offer for the aforementioned pancaking.
They're clearly worried that he's going to get a smashing. I think they know he's going to get pancaked at some point in the near future, but they're holding out for the most financially pleasing offer for the aforementioned pancaking.
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Clearly you don't think. Peter Fury said it wasn't financially viable. Why should Fury be the one to take fights which aren't financially viable?
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But surely to deserve the big money pasting that he wants, he has to go through a few small money but slightly risky fights first.
Nobody should get that career defining hospitalisation without at least paying their dues against so-called lesser fighters.
If he can't beat Pulev, he doesn't deserve getting a concussion from Wladimir for mega bucks.
Nobody should get that career defining hospitalisation without at least paying their dues against so-called lesser fighters.
If he can't beat Pulev, he doesn't deserve getting a concussion from Wladimir for mega bucks.
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Why take on a fight for chump change? Fury seems more intelligent than people like you who would fight for free in the hope of winning the lottery.
Tell me whi Wlad's last 3 opponents did to merit their shot at the title. You unhinged, issued people make me laugh.
Tell me whi Wlad's last 3 opponents did to merit their shot at the title. You unhinged, issued people make me laugh.
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azania wrote:Why take on a fight for chump change? Fury seems more intelligent than people like you who would fight for free in the hope of winning the lottery.
Tell me whi Wlad's last 3 opponents did to merit their shot at the title. You unhinged, issued people make me laugh.
let's be honest he has not pulled out because of money, he is just using that as an excuse.
Let us see who his next opponent is and you will see it was not money.
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Evidence would be nice
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Fury not fighting Pulev is looking like a repitition of Fury not fighting Price. Talking big and then making excuses and fighting a C rate fighter.
Fighting Haye would be a certain loss. Haye will always be too good for Fury.
Fury might fight Chis or Price, if he wins.
Fighting Haye would be a certain loss. Haye will always be too good for Fury.
Fury might fight Chis or Price, if he wins.
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my guess is harrisson or chisora to face fury next.
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Adam D wrote:Peter Fury just texted me:
"The Pulev fight was not financially viable enough for us"
There you go - from the horses mouth. Not sure what that means though!
It means Fury's status as a clown and a pu$$y is confirmed, his career is undeniably a joke now. The only thing that could possibly save some face is a Haye as that would admittedly mean more money (therefore covering the 'financially viable' point) and, whilst not for a belt or contender status, Haye is still a higher regarded/ranked HW than Pulev.
Would laugh harder if it wasn't so predictable.....
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azania wrote:Evidence would be nice
Oh the irony.........
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Not financially viable... Because Fury will get his arse handed to him on a plate by the first decent fighter he faces, way too much risk for not enough cash. When he loses they want it tobefor way more money than hiS talent deserves
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That's good business sense then. You guys are giving way too much credit to team Fury.
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Pah, not even Fury would sink that low. Surely??!
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It was purse bids...
This can only mean that Fat Mick wasn't prepared to pay what Fury seems to think he's worth for fighting Pulev and Team Fury weren't going to travel.
If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
This can only mean that Fat Mick wasn't prepared to pay what Fury seems to think he's worth for fighting Pulev and Team Fury weren't going to travel.
If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
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rob-glos wrote:If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...
...Az will find a way to call it something different
Second time Fury has ducked purse bids now, no longer excusable as an isolated incident, this is now a pattern.
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I would disagree with calling this one a duck, although I think the Price one was.
Not fighting David in the UK for a huge amount of cash doesnt look too clever.
However, fighting Pulev, in a foreign country, for possibly a small share (we dont know how much) might be a genuine reason not to do it. when you take into a ccount training camp costs for potentially a small purse, I am willing to believe that the risk/ reward factor isnt there.
Against Price though, I feel it was a blatant duck!
Not fighting David in the UK for a huge amount of cash doesnt look too clever.
However, fighting Pulev, in a foreign country, for possibly a small share (we dont know how much) might be a genuine reason not to do it. when you take into a ccount training camp costs for potentially a small purse, I am willing to believe that the risk/ reward factor isnt there.
Against Price though, I feel it was a blatant duck!
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But is he really going to fight Haye given his track record
All bark and no bite from Fury as usual
If he goes for anyone other than a really top contender like a Haye, then its a duck plain and simple
All bark and no bite from Fury as usual
If he goes for anyone other than a really top contender like a Haye, then its a duck plain and simple
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Risk/reward is still a duck though, in my eyes at least.
As the simple fact is what it comes down to is not taking a fight you expect to lose = duck.
Not doubting it's more 'financially viable' for him to lose to Haye for big money rather than lose to Pulez for modest money, however the point is his decision has come down to expectation at losing the fight. Therefore it's a duck, even if for sound financial reasons.
As the simple fact is what it comes down to is not taking a fight you expect to lose = duck.
Not doubting it's more 'financially viable' for him to lose to Haye for big money rather than lose to Pulez for modest money, however the point is his decision has come down to expectation at losing the fight. Therefore it's a duck, even if for sound financial reasons.
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Financially viable is a complete misdemeanor if I ever heard one.
Fury shouldn't be worried about money at this point. if he's as good as he says he is, he should be fighting all comers. The money will follow. Carefully managed fighters careers look like dross most of the time. Sven Ottke anyone?
Fury shouldn't be worried about money at this point. if he's as good as he says he is, he should be fighting all comers. The money will follow. Carefully managed fighters careers look like dross most of the time. Sven Ottke anyone?
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JabMachineMK2 wrote:Financially viable is a complete misdemeanor if I ever heard one.
Misnomer, do you mean??
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I reckon Fury would fight anybody, he's never given me the impression he's afraid of a fight. If it's a case of guiding Fury to bigger pay days I don't see an issue but Tyson should stop calling out fighters if his team have no intention of taking on the fights.
Fury seems to have taken a page out of Haye's book in attempting to talk his way into a big money fight.
Fury seems to have taken a page out of Haye's book in attempting to talk his way into a big money fight.
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Fight anybody?
Except Price.......or Pulev........or any HW roughly his size or top10 ranked.....
Except Price.......or Pulev........or any HW roughly his size or top10 ranked.....
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I don't think he's afraid of fighting more a fear of losing out on a big payday I reckon.
If Fury was offered £10 million to fight Wlad I'm sure he'd take the fight.
If Fury was offered £10 million to fight Wlad I'm sure he'd take the fight.
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Autocorrect TopHat mate. Bloody bane of my life.
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Yeh, but that applies to basically anyone and doesn't explain Fury's behaviour - esp as those aren't the kind of sums of money we're talking about.
Price purse bids would've been a career high pay day but he ducked, Pulev purse bids would also probably have been close to career high pay day but he ducked again.
He clearly won't 'fight anyone', he'll only fight the lowest risk options. Chisora being about the only time he's showed any balls in his career.
Price purse bids would've been a career high pay day but he ducked, Pulev purse bids would also probably have been close to career high pay day but he ducked again.
He clearly won't 'fight anyone', he'll only fight the lowest risk options. Chisora being about the only time he's showed any balls in his career.
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Apparently he pulled out to fight Haye. Happening some time in the Autumn, although reference has been made to fighting in August at a football stadium.
If Fury pulled out for the chance of fighting Haye, then fair play to him.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/boxing/4951104/David-Haye-and-Tyson-Fury-set-for-August-showdown.html[Accessed 3 June 2013]
If Fury pulled out for the chance of fighting Haye, then fair play to him.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/boxing/4951104/David-Haye-and-Tyson-Fury-set-for-August-showdown.html[Accessed 3 June 2013]
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From memory Moloney offered Fury something like £500,000 to fight Price. I think Fury wants a bigger payday. He could make a couple of million or more fighting Haye. In light of a Haye fight why would he fight Pulev?
I too have had enough of Tyson's lip, he needs to make a big fight soon. He also needs to button it if he isn't going to fight Haye. His novelty pi$$ take act is wearing thin at this stage.
I too have had enough of Tyson's lip, he needs to make a big fight soon. He also needs to button it if he isn't going to fight Haye. His novelty pi$$ take act is wearing thin at this stage.
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Not sure I'd fancy going to watch a Fury fight at a football stadium. They love a drink and a tear up, and 10,000 of them in close proximity is something I'd be inclined to avoid. I'm not being racist but I think it is ok to generalise within reason about travellers.
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Don't disagree with any of that particularly, but it still doesn't mean it's not a duck.
It's saying, "I know I'm rubbish and will lose against my first stiff test, therefore I need to make sure whoever that test is offers me the biggest pay packet. Otherwise I just have to keep taking lower paid but easy win fights."
That's ducking, whether financially justified or not.
It's saying, "I know I'm rubbish and will lose against my first stiff test, therefore I need to make sure whoever that test is offers me the biggest pay packet. Otherwise I just have to keep taking lower paid but easy win fights."
That's ducking, whether financially justified or not.
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