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Post by hampo17 Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:16 am

The purse bid for the proposed European Heavyweight title fight between undefeated champion Kubrat Pulev and challenger Tyson Fury has been cancelled today. According to German media, Fury has given up the chance to fight Pulev for the title in a fight that also doubled up as an IBF final eliminator.

Pulev has not fought since September and it remains to be seen whether he will now become mandatory to IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko or have to go through another eliminator.

Rumours persist that Fury is close to agreeing a September fight with British rival, and former WBA heavyweight champion, David Haye. In a recent interview, Kalle Sauerland, promoter of Pulev, called his man one of the most avoided fighters in the world.

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Post by Adam D Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:21 am

I have just texted Peter Fury to see if we can get a comment!

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Post by Adam D Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:30 am

Peter Fury just texted me:

"The Pulev fight was not financially viable enough for us"

There you go - from the horses mouth. Not sure what that means though!

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Post by hampo17 Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:31 am

So much for wanting a world title fight. If he fights Haye he will get knocked out, although I suppose he will make more getting knocked out by Haye than Pulev.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:38 am

If the Haye thing is real than its understandable, but given Tyson's past I doubt it

How man purse bids has Fury pulled out of now? Why doenst Hennessy just cough up the money

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:47 am

Haye has offered to fight Fury before and been turned down.........Price was also avoided pre-Thompson........

Fury talks a good fight though.

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Post by azania Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:57 am

Barry Hearn said on ringside that boxing is a business. If Pulev wasn't financially viable then it makes sense to target the fight that is financially viable. Haye. That is if Haye will accept it and not claim an injured toe or another excuse amongst the plethora of excuses he's made since he started at HW.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:34 am

He still took the fight he asked for, that's more than Fury has done. Fury calls fighters (both boxers and MMA) out, they return in kind and fury goes in hiding

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Post by hampo17 Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:40 am

The Pulev fight not being financially viable stinks. Its a fight that puts him a mandatory position, this to me says Uncle Pete saw how awful Tyson was in his last fight and realised he isn't ready.

I think Tophat mentioned on twitter about Roggie 2, there's been some back and forth between the pair on twitter lately and sadly it wouldn't surprise me if he fought him again.

Surely you won't defend him if he fights Roggie again Az?

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Post by azania Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:51 am

If he fights Roggie then its BS.

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Post by joeyjojo618 Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:54 am

He would get paid a lot to fight Haye, he should push to make that happen. A loss to him is not the worst thing that could happen to Fury's career.

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Post by ShahenshahG Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:56 am

azania wrote:If he fights Roggie then its BS.

Getting soft in you old age Az Wink

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Post by azania Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:05 am

So Mrs Az says Sad

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Post by Steffan Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:07 am

azania wrote:So Mrs Az says Sad
Well get that sharp tounge into action instead then Wink

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Post by Strongback Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:43 am

Looked like a tough fight for Fury so not surprised he was looking for good terms.

Haye would be an even tougher test which I wouldn't see Fury coming through.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:03 am

hampo171 wrote:The Pulev fight not being financially viable stinks. Its a fight that puts him a mandatory position, this to me says Uncle Pete saw how awful Tyson was in his last fight and realised he isn't ready.

I think Tophat mentioned on twitter about Roggie 2, there's been some back and forth between the pair on twitter lately and sadly it wouldn't surprise me if he fought him again.

Surely you won't defend him if he fights Roggie again Az?

I agree it does stink. He would rather fight another blown up CW or way past their prime HW.

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Post by BallchinianMuffwig Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:04 am

Pulev would probably have won. Its a shame I was looking forward to this!

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Post by bhb001 Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:28 am

It's hard to defend Fury on this one, really! He has done it before and if his next opponent is a has been or never been like Harrison (god for bid) then he will be a joke of huge proportions. The only way he comes out of this without being widely derided is if the next fight is Haye.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:11 am

Thompson said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out price, Wilder said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out Harrisson, Price said he wanted to fight fury and fury ducked him. Haye said he wanted to fight Fury and fury refused.

Thompson, wilder, Price, Haye.

WHo has Fury fought instead? Rogan, Madalone, Johnson and Cunningham.

Fury is ducking serious challengers and facing utter rubbish.

No doubt he will pull out of the fight with Pulev and fight some washed up CW.

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Post by azania Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:35 am

National_Socialist wrote:Thompson said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out price, Wilder said he wanted to fight fury after knocking out Harrisson, Price said he wanted to fight fury and fury ducked him. Haye said he wanted to fight Fury and fury refused.

Thompson, wilder, Price, Haye.

WHo has Fury fought instead? Rogan, Madalone, Johnson and Cunningham.

Fury is ducking serious challengers and facing utter rubbish.

No doubt he will pull out of the fight with Pulev and fight some washed up CW.

Thompson is rematching Chinless Price so those two are out of the equation.

Wilder decided to box his woman and got arrested.

That leaves Haye who has made a career out of calling out all and sundry then fighting Audley. Pulev is crap and no money in it. So why waste time with him?

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Post by djlovesyou Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:56 am

I don't think the money would be a huge problem if he was completely confident of beating Pulev.

They're clearly worried that he's going to get a smashing. I think they know he's going to get pancaked at some point in the near future, but they're holding out for the most financially pleasing offer for the aforementioned pancaking.

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Post by azania Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:18 am

Clearly you don't think. Peter Fury said it wasn't financially viable. Why should Fury be the one to take fights which aren't financially viable?

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Post by djlovesyou Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:24 am

But surely to deserve the big money pasting that he wants, he has to go through a few small money but slightly risky fights first.

Nobody should get that career defining hospitalisation without at least paying their dues against so-called lesser fighters.

If he can't beat Pulev, he doesn't deserve getting a concussion from Wladimir for mega bucks.

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Post by azania Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:29 am

Why take on a fight for chump change? Fury seems more intelligent than people like you who would fight for free in the hope of winning the lottery.

Tell me whi Wlad's last 3 opponents did to merit their shot at the title. You unhinged, issued people make me laugh.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:47 am

azania wrote:Why take on a fight for chump change? Fury seems more intelligent than people like you who would fight for free in the hope of winning the lottery.

Tell me whi Wlad's last 3 opponents did to merit their shot at the title. You unhinged, issued people make me laugh.

let's be honest he has not pulled out because of money, he is just using that as an excuse.

Let us see who his next opponent is and you will see it was not money.

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Post by azania Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:14 pm

Evidence would be nice

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Post by Happytravelling Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:36 pm

Fury not fighting Pulev is looking like a repitition of Fury not fighting Price. Talking big and then making excuses and fighting a C rate fighter.

Fighting Haye would be a certain loss. Haye will always be too good for Fury.

Fury might fight Chis or Price, if he wins.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:46 pm

my guess is harrisson or chisora to face fury next.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:12 pm

Adam D wrote:Peter Fury just texted me:

"The Pulev fight was not financially viable enough for us"

There you go - from the horses mouth. Not sure what that means though!

It means Fury's status as a clown and a pu$$y is confirmed, his career is undeniably a joke now. The only thing that could possibly save some face is a Haye as that would admittedly mean more money (therefore covering the 'financially viable' point) and, whilst not for a belt or contender status, Haye is still a higher regarded/ranked HW than Pulev.

Would laugh harder if it wasn't so predictable.....

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:16 pm

azania wrote:Evidence would be nice

Oh the irony......... Laugh

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Post by horizontalhero Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:31 pm

Not financially viable... Because Fury will get his arse handed to him on a plate by the first decent fighter he faces, way too much risk for not enough cash. When he loses they want it tobefor way more money than hiS talent deserves

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Post by azania Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:40 pm

That's good business sense then. You guys are giving way too much credit to team Fury.

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Post by jimdig Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:46 pm

Fury v Audley?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:56 pm

Pah, not even Fury would sink that low. Surely??!

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Post by rob-glos Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:09 pm

It was purse bids...

This can only mean that Fat Mick wasn't prepared to pay what Fury seems to think he's worth for fighting Pulev and Team Fury weren't going to travel.

If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:12 pm

rob-glos wrote:If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck...

...Az will find a way to call it something different Laugh

Second time Fury has ducked purse bids now, no longer excusable as an isolated incident, this is now a pattern.

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Post by Adam D Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:21 pm

I would disagree with calling this one a duck, although I think the Price one was.

Not fighting David in the UK for a huge amount of cash doesnt look too clever.

However, fighting Pulev, in a foreign country, for possibly a small share (we dont know how much) might be a genuine reason not to do it. when you take into a ccount training camp costs for potentially a small purse, I am willing to believe that the risk/ reward factor isnt there.

Against Price though, I feel it was a blatant duck!

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:25 pm

But is he really going to fight Haye given his track record

All bark and no bite from Fury as usual

If he goes for anyone other than a really top contender like a Haye, then its a duck plain and simple

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:33 pm

Risk/reward is still a duck though, in my eyes at least.

As the simple fact is what it comes down to is not taking a fight you expect to lose = duck.

Not doubting it's more 'financially viable' for him to lose to Haye for big money rather than lose to Pulez for modest money, however the point is his decision has come down to expectation at losing the fight. Therefore it's a duck, even if for sound financial reasons.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:37 pm

Financially viable is a complete misdemeanor if I ever heard one.

Fury shouldn't be worried about money at this point. if he's as good as he says he is, he should be fighting all comers. The money will follow. Carefully managed fighters careers look like dross most of the time. Sven Ottke anyone?

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 8:38 pm

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Financially viable is a complete misdemeanor if I ever heard one.

Misnomer, do you mean?? Smile

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Post by Strongback Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:03 pm

I reckon Fury would fight anybody, he's never given me the impression he's afraid of a fight. If it's a case of guiding Fury to bigger pay days I don't see an issue but Tyson should stop calling out fighters if his team have no intention of taking on the fights.

Fury seems to have taken a page out of Haye's book in attempting to talk his way into a big money fight.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:10 pm

Fight anybody?

Except Price.......or Pulev........or any HW roughly his size or top10 ranked.....

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Post by Strongback Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:27 pm

I don't think he's afraid of fighting more a fear of losing out on a big payday I reckon.

If Fury was offered £10 million to fight Wlad I'm sure he'd take the fight.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:28 pm

Autocorrect TopHat mate. Bloody bane of my life.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:30 pm

Yeh, but that applies to basically anyone and doesn't explain Fury's behaviour - esp as those aren't the kind of sums of money we're talking about.

Price purse bids would've been a career high pay day but he ducked, Pulev purse bids would also probably have been close to career high pay day but he ducked again.

He clearly won't 'fight anyone', he'll only fight the lowest risk options. Chisora being about the only time he's showed any balls in his career.

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Post by aja424 Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:36 pm

Apparently he pulled out to fight Haye. Happening some time in the Autumn, although reference has been made to fighting in August at a football stadium.

If Fury pulled out for the chance of fighting Haye, then fair play to him.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/boxing/4951104/David-Haye-and-Tyson-Fury-set-for-August-showdown.html[Accessed 3 June 2013]

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Post by Strongback Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:40 pm

From memory Moloney offered Fury something like £500,000 to fight Price. I think Fury wants a bigger payday. He could make a couple of million or more fighting Haye. In light of a Haye fight why would he fight Pulev?

I too have had enough of Tyson's lip, he needs to make a big fight soon. He also needs to button it if he isn't going to fight Haye. His novelty pi$$ take act is wearing thin at this stage.

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Post by seanmichaels Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:45 pm

Not sure I'd fancy going to watch a Fury fight at a football stadium. They love a drink and a tear up, and 10,000 of them in close proximity is something I'd be inclined to avoid. I'm not being racist but I think it is ok to generalise within reason about travellers.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon Jun 03, 2013 9:46 pm

Don't disagree with any of that particularly, but it still doesn't mean it's not a duck.

It's saying, "I know I'm rubbish and will lose against my first stiff test, therefore I need to make sure whoever that test is offers me the biggest pay packet. Otherwise I just have to keep taking lower paid but easy win fights."

That's ducking, whether financially justified or not.

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