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Post by hugehandoff Tue 11 Jun 2013, 3:35 pm

First topic message reminder :

This is obviously a very important game in the overall context of the tour. Gats should use it primarily as a tough run out for his test team 1 week before the test series begins. But will he still want to give some players a chance to put up their hands? Are there certain positions still up for grabs and if so will he try and use this game as a winner takes all shoot out. It is not ideal to still be asking players to play the Brumbies game and then appear in the 1st test, although not impossible.

For me it should be:

Adam Jones - nailed on
Hibbard - almost nailed on
Grant - experiment
POC - nailed on
AWJ - trial V Parling
Lydiate - needs to prove himself
Faletau - needs to prove himself
Warbs - needs to prove himself
Phillips - nailed on
Sexton - nailed on
North - nailed on
Roberts - nailed on
BOD - nailed on
Maitland - experiment
1/2P - nailed on

Bench:
Cole.....purely for some hard match practice as I see Jones as nailed on
T.Youngs....could challenge for a starting spot if he excels as a replacement - worth a look
Vuni.......originally viewed as an impact sub so interesting to see how he goes compared to the highly rated (by the Scots) Grant who is deserving of a start
Parling.....worth another look to see if he is worth a starting or bench spot
Croft....another who deserves a run out to see if he is worth a bench spot
Heaslip....given an opportunity could take the starters spot
Youngs....assuming he will be the test sub so let him see what impact he can make
Farrell....ditto as for Youngs

Is a 6/2 bench split a bit risky?

Who would you like to see run out on Sat and do you just want the test side to play or do you still see this as a chance to experiment and give players a fair crack?

Update with actual team.
Lions team: Leigh Halfpenny; Sean Maitland, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, Simon Zebo; Jonathan Sexton, Mike Phillips; Mako Vunipola, Tom Youngs, Adam Jones, Alun Wyn Jones, Paul O'Connell , Tom Croft, Sam Warburton (capt), Jamie Heaslip
Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Alex Corbisiero, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Ben Youngs, Owen Farrell, Rob Kearney


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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:00 am

If Sexton goes off get Tipuric to boss 10.

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:00 am

Well for the all criticism...Sam's been chatting to the ref which is good to see.  He's not getting shirty or moaning.

7-13 at 19:03

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:01 am

Wales606 - would you rather Sexton OK for next week or no...?

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Post by LeinsterFan4life Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:01 am

POC is playing out of his skin. I haven't seen him ever make this many turnovers

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:02 am

How many kick have Halfpenny taken so far?

He must be close to 95% 19/20
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Post by LondonTiger Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:02 am

Phillips has done some good stuff, but really struggling to clear the ball at the breakdowns

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Post by The Boss Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:02 am

Zebo, Halfpenny and Davies started well. Adam Jones and POC in at scrumhalf already!

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:03 am

Zebo, POC, AWJ, Croft all throwing down some serious markers here.  Youngs again having a good match, especially given that Hibbard and Best are having pretty average tours. 

Maitland is having a bit of a nightmare out there.  Phillips having a poor match too.

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:03 am

Another missed tackle by Maitland...needs to work on his defence...

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:03 am

At least Maitland's flight home is short Wink

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Post by sirBiggles Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:04 am

So much for those saying Maitland is strong in defence...

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:04 am

Cari wrote:Wales606 - would you rather Sexton OK for next week or no...?

What???
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Post by nathan Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:04 am

Nice edit there maes! Phillips is doing his best at the minute!

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:04 am

Skelton hasn't made an inch.

Foley is playing very well

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Post by nathan Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:05 am

JD created a bit of a dog leg there

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:05 am

THAT'S WHY PHILLIPS STARTS.

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Post by Taylorman Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:06 am

This match has a great buzz to it. Most of this side will be the test side and the tahs are starting to bring the game to the Lions...Gatland will be thankful for that

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Post by maestegmafia Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:07 am

Awesome turnover by warburton

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:08 am

Wales606 - Don't panic....! Apologies that was meant for Maes who's now edited his post...It's frustrating that I can't work the quotes thingy now.

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:08 am

Tahs being told off for being mean to Phillips - naughty boys
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:08 am

I love seeing Neil Jenkins there. Legend.

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:08 am

maestegmafia wrote:Awesome turnover by warburton

Thought it was POC

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Post by JmD Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:09 am

O'Connell has made a huge start, 3 turnovers in the first 25 minutes.

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:09 am

I can't believe Barnes saying Warburton will start next week?  Tipuric is playing better at 7, SOB and even Croft better at 6.  

Also, POC is having an outstanding match so far.  Head and shoulders above the other Lions second rows so far, though AWJ playing well today.

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:09 am

Phillips should be used to that sort of abuse from when he used to play at Rodney Parade against the Dragons. Wink

7-16 at 27 minutes.

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:09 am

Was that 7 tackles for POC and Warburton already?!
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Post by BamBam Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:09 am

LondonTiger wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:Awesome turnover by warburton

Thought it was POC

It was, Warbs played scrum half there

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Post by nathan Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:09 am

Why can't I use the silly quotes thing now!

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Post by nathan Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:10 am

And Tom youngs on the tackle count.

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:10 am

Say what you like about Sexton, but Halfpenny is quickly becoming he most important player on tour
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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:10 am

NATHAN - I can't figure it out either. It's causing a few problems...

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Post by BamBam Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:10 am

nathan wrote:Why can't I use the silly quotes thing now!

Use the Switch editor mode button on the far right

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:11 am

Obiwan / Skywalker
Kim il Sung / Kim Jong Il

Jenkins / Halfpenny... the greatest master and apprentice combo ever.

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:11 am

Woah!  Was Phillips blocked by that Tahs player?

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Post by The Boss Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:11 am

What a catch! Hope Mitchell is alright!

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Post by nathan Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:11 am

BamBam wrote:
nathan wrote:Why can't I use the silly quotes thing now!

Use the Switch editor mode button on the far right

Aha thanks!

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:12 am

Good work between Zebo and Philips
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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:12 am

BamBam wrote:
nathan wrote:Why can't I use the silly quotes thing now!

Use the Switch editor mode button on the far right

THANKS! Very Happy

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:13 am

Was that Heaslip not controling at the scrum

Bit mistake by him - black mark next to his name
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Post by BamBam Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:13 am

Very welcome Nathan and Cari Very Happy

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Post by George Carlin Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:13 am

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:Maitland just lost his chance at a test place there.
picard Perhaps we could all just calm down a little.
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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:13 am

Good kick under pressure from Halfpenny.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:13 am

I think Drew Mitchell should be chopping down trees.

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Post by LondonTiger Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:14 am

Gotta love Phillips, in 30 minutes he has shown exactly why his fans love him AND exactly why his detractors moan.

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Post by nathan Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:14 am

Was Jenkins in Shrek? Lol

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:15 am

LondonTiger wrote:Gotta love Phillips, in 30 minutes he has shown exactly why his fans love him AND exactly why his detractors moan.

He is the Marmite of rugby it seems...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:16 am

Why his detractors moan? It's a family forum LT. Let's keep it clean. Lions V NSW Waratahs - Page 6 3933776953

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:17 am

The Tahs fans are doing their best to wind up the Lions. They boo when the Lions go for the posts instead of the corner, and stay quiet when their own team do the same.

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Post by wales606 Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:18 am

I think Robshaw should have been on this tour as a 6

I like Croft, but I don't think he will work well with Warburton

Robshaw/Warbs could be a good partnership - with workrate and breakdown dominance

I think SOB would be my favourite for the 6 shirt at the moment - though I would consider Tip/Warbs
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Post by maestegmafia Sat 15 Jun 2013, 11:18 am

Croft does no work whatsoever...

The closest he's got a ruck is outside centre position.

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