Ashes: First Test

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It's weird...no thread on T1 yet
Ashton Agar will play is the breaking news.

1st ball in test cricket goes for 4  

Isnt Pattinson actually English... Nice to note England also 'release' players

50 partnership.  

The Aussies need to sort their lines out to Trott sharpish!

Warner sent back from the tour to "practise" in SA with the A team  

Joeeeeeeeeeee. Bloody Siddle.

feick. Joey - slly boy!

30 for him. ok only . But not a disaster.

Trotts sr is faster than he has ever managed in odi cricket let alone TEST.

go on lad..

Boundaries seem easy as pie out they and KP Is in. Mouth watering

Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball.
He might get by in the subcontinent.....but not in England, SA or NZ

That ball from siddle was full...swung a little away but was made to look much better than it was...always is the case when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinger

I did say it made no sense to tour with Warner if he isnt to play... Seems the selectors agree

"Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball."


rubbish

mystiroakey wrote:"Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball."


rubbish

he is not rubbish......a fairly decent middle order bat

England not getting off to a great start here. If ever there was a 'KP moment', it's now. Come on lad!!!

KP dropped on 1
would love to see him bash the aussie pace bowling now

KP_fan wrote:Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball.
He might get by in the subcontinent.....but not in England, SA or NZ

That ball from siddle was full...swung a little away but was made to look much better than it was...always is the case when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinger

Dunno about that , KP_f ...was a darn good ball. Full and quick , and a little movement.

He had played quite soundly until then , made thirty...way too early to be writing him off as an opener. Call me after the next two or three Tests...

KP dropped on 1?! Bit harsh KPF! Very hard chance for Haddin.

At least KP knows where his off stump is.

KP_fan wrote:

mystiroakey wrote:"Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball."


rubbish

he is not rubbish......a fairly decent middle order bat

 

Starc looking dangerous...LBW on cards

So the Aussies are going down the complete desperation route with the selection Agar over Lyon.

Azzy Mahmood wrote:England not getting off to a great start here. If ever there was a 'KP moment', it's now. Come on lad!!!

I was pretty happy with the start until Root went , Azzy.

Given the conditions , the prelunch session was always going to be challenging...one down at lunch would have been excellent.

That said , it is indeed important for KP to get settled now. If he can , there might be a few runs on offer later in the day : this Aussie attack looks quite dangerous at times , but also a bit inclined to spray the ball around...

alfie wrote:

KP_fan wrote:Root is too fidgety to be facing new ball.
He might get by in the subcontinent.....but not in England, SA or NZ

That ball from siddle was full...swung a little away but was made to look much better than it was...always is the case when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinger

Dunno about that , KP_f ...was a darn good ball.  Full and quick , and a little movement.

He had played quite soundly until then , made thirty...way too early to be writing him off as an opener.  Call me after the next two or three Tests...

I said before...I say again......when a RHB is clean bowled of an away swinging delivery...is a spectacular view...often made to look better than it was.

Root wasn't steady on the crease....shuffled away.......and then tried to move back in the line onf the ball....feet got a bit stuck trying to change the direction...ended up playing insdie the line of the ball.
Fidgety Technical imperfection made for a great looking dismissal

Did I hear that right?

Boycott found it hard playing with 4" let alone 1 1/4 "

South Africa looking composed thus far



Couldnt resist. Last time though.

Get over that KP. Root is not just OK as an opener- but will be one of the greats in years to come

kingraf wrote:South Africa looking composed thus far  



Couldnt resist. Last time though.

I think that stopped being funny from the moment it was originally said!

mystiroakey wrote:Get over that KP. Root is not just OK as an opener- but will be one of the greats in years to come

if he averages 42+ in this series I will grant him OK status

if he averages 35 plus i will grant him ok status

42 plus good status

Struck a nerve there, Olly?

mystiroakey wrote:if he averages 35 plus i will grant him ok status

42 plus good status

LOL..there is no remedy for the disease called "low expectations"

Must wonder if Clarke looked at the Haddin drop and thought to himself, 'I bet Wade would have caught that'

So 98/2 at lunch.

Fairly even. Marginal edge to England , IMHO.

I expect him to ave over 50 in this series KP.

however if he ave 42 or above that is good for a first test series as an opener. that isnt even low expectations.. that is pretty high in fairness

Decent first session for us I think. Going at a good run rate, and seen off the new ball. Hopefully one of Trott/KP get going

2 wickets makes it in favour of Aus
RR of nearly 4 makes it tilt in Eng's favour
overall even....I would say at thi point.

from Aus POV they need to choke runs down a bit.
from england's POV.......one of these two out there should go on to hit a 150+

98/2- is good enough going for england. good set up. no disasters- trott and kp in great form atm.

Good batters to come.. From here on 400 seems an ok target

mystiroakey wrote:I expect him to ave over 50 in this series KP.

however if he ave 42 or above that is good for a first test series as an opener. that isnt even low expectations.. that is pretty high in fairness

Compton averages 45 against Australia...root's gotta match that atleast

compo is 30 and limited.

root is in this side and staying in this side. he will not have to average more than 35 to stay in. He will get the chance for at least a year ..

England will be the happier of the two teams given that the ball was doing a little.

KP and Trott look in good touch. Root looked (at the risk of agreeing with KPF) a little edgy and nervous which is understandable.

Australia bowled OK but a few too many loose deliveries. Pattinson looks their main threat, although Starc was unlucky not to pick up a wicket also. Agar looks a spinner in the Bruce Martin vein - he'll do a job but can't see him causing too many headaches. Still, it's a bold move from Aus. Glad to see Smith in the side.

First hour after lunch crucial as always. If Trott and KP get going then England can look to build a big score; if either gets out early (and the ball is still doing a bit) then England's recently fragile middle-order will have work to do.

by the way comp has never even played against aus and aveages 31 overall.. so get your facts right first pal

Mike still banging that tune that root can't open!!

jeas he could score a double hundred and you would still be that stubborn!

Good toss to win for England. Yes there was quite a bit of early swing about in overcast conditions, but the pitch already has a few cracks, and I'm sure Swann will be rubbing his hands in glee in prospect at bowling last on this pitch. 350 should be the minimum aim for England here.

Decent morning for England. Cook will be annoyed with himself, he got through the testing first half-hour, only to play a loose drive at a wide one. Root was going along fine until he got a beauty of a yorker from Siddle. Trott's looking very comfortable, he's playing his shots, and already has put the Aussies on the back foot. Him and KP are probably a perfect partnership for the afternoon.

Australia have looked a bit edgy in the field and with the ball. I'm quite surprised they went for Agar, in truth. Did anyone expect that?

Keep it up England!

Mysti he did look a little nervous and uncomfortable out there today mate, nothing to worry about, bound to be. It's his first test opening!

Trott's average in the Ashes is bested only by his 'grandfather'

#familia

Are you talking about Compos grandad- that played for arsernal footy and england cricket or albertrott that played for aus and england cricket!(who was supposedly a distant relative of trotty and commited suicide at a young age (RIP) )

I was talking about Albert Trott. Trott's dad is convinced they are related, I'll take his word. Didnt know he committed suicide. All I knew is that he once hit a huge six at Lords, and that he has an Ashes average of 102

Been listening this morning. Seems Aussies dangerous bowling has done the damage.

Did sound like an odd morning to put yourself in. Under cloud at Trent Bridge. Right or wrong decision?

Kinggraf- where did you get them figures from. I dont think Albertrotto averaged that much and J. Trott is certainly not second

Oh dear.

Compton would have done better.

KP~!!  silly boy,.

400 looks a long way off at the moment,

i will settle for 300

Silly shot from Pietersen. A very loose drive, similar to Cook's dismissal. Not what England needed.